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Posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2003, at 18:53:57
In reply to Dr. Bob, can this thread be attached to one above?, posted by BekkaH on January 19, 2003, at 12:06:30
> is it possible for this new Strattera thread to be attached to the one above
Jim,
Would that be OK with you?
Bob
Posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 19:51:40
In reply to Re: Straterra -Second Day -tia, posted by BekkaH on January 18, 2003, at 21:44:17
Well I've been on Strattera for several days now. Yesterday I started breaking out with little red itchy bumps on my legs. It spread to my arms, back, belly, chest, and neck. Today the rash started getting worse. It was burning and itching so bad, I was going insane. I finally went to the ER, they believe it was a delayed allergic reaction to the Strattera. They gave me shots of benadryl, epinepherine, and a steroid. My face is also getting a little puffy. They released me with a prescription of Medrol Pak ( a steroid), and told me to take benadryl on a regular basis. I haven't taken any other meds that could have caused it. I took the sample bottle of strattera with the paper insert to the ER with me. The Dr. looked it over. They do believe the Strattera caused this. I still have a horrible rash. I itch, but the meds have helped a little. They told me to stop taking my strattera, and call my pdoc. Well I'm heading into the bathtub to take a cool Aveeno oatmeal bath. I'll keep everyone updated.
Posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 19:57:46
In reply to Re: can this thread be attached » Jim Boardman, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2003, at 18:53:57
I have a post above about my allergic reaction. Thought I would let everyone know in case they don't see it way up there.
Posted by BekkaH on January 19, 2003, at 20:20:02
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction, posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 19:51:40
Hi Jodie,
Oh! What a nuisance! Your rash started just when things seemed to be improving. I wonder whether it might have been the Lexapro? The other day you said you were going to resume the Lexapro. And if it wasn't that, perhaps it was some interaction between Strattera and Lexapro. Some doctors like to have a patient on one drug at a time, at least for a while, so they can see what's doing what. Introducing too many new variables just complicates matters. I hope your rash goes away soon. Maybe you can resume Strattera at a later date and proceed more slowly. When the rash appeared, were you on any medicines others than Strattera and Lexapro?
Posted by tia on January 19, 2003, at 20:21:16
In reply to Re: Straterra -Second Day, posted by tia on January 18, 2003, at 17:09:31
Well today was different then the first two. I didnt have a lot of energy. I didnt have anxiety attacks either. My bladder is still acting up. I have interstitial cystitis and i am thinking that the straterra is not helping. I am still taking 40mg until tuesday then i move up to 60mg.I have another question: I was on zoloft years ago and did great on it. The only thing was i had to go off of it because of financial reasons. I tried it again about a year ago but had a serious problem with yawning. Has anyone experienced this before?
Tia
Posted by zenclear on January 19, 2003, at 20:44:08
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction, posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 19:51:40
> Well I've been on Strattera for several days now. Yesterday I started breaking out with little red itchy bumps on my legs. It spread to my arms, back, belly, chest, and neck. Today the rash started getting worse. It was burning and itching so bad, I was going insane. I finally went to the ER, they believe it was a delayed allergic reaction to the Strattera. They gave me shots of benadryl, epinepherine, and a steroid. My face is also getting a little puffy. They released me with a prescription of Medrol Pak ( a steroid), and told me to take benadryl on a regular basis. I haven't taken any other meds that could have caused it. I took the sample bottle of strattera with the paper insert to the ER with me. The Dr. looked it over. They do believe the Strattera caused this. I still have a horrible rash. I itch, but the meds have helped a little. They told me to stop taking my strattera, and call my pdoc. Well I'm heading into the bathtub to take a cool Aveeno oatmeal bath. I'll keep everyone updated.
Geeez, I am glad you got some medical attention on this! This happens to me a lot, and with me, more often than not, it's not an allelrgic reaction but more of a chemical sensitivity. There's a technical difference, but the effects have the same implications: the med is not an option, etc.
With this one, the overall drying effects manifest in me across several domains, from skin rashes to dermatitis etc. In fact, it made my scalp bleed, due to sore-like eruptions. I did not notice this until a day or so after I stopped.
Take care, and do the right thing for yourself! Listen to your own instincts.
Posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 22:19:57
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction- jodie, posted by BekkaH on January 19, 2003, at 20:20:02
> Hi Jodie,
> Oh! What a nuisance! Your rash started just when things seemed to be improving. I wonder whether it might have been the Lexapro? The other day you said you were going to resume the Lexapro. And if it wasn't that, perhaps it was some interaction between Strattera and Lexapro. Some doctors like to have a patient on one drug at a time, at least for a while, so they can see what's doing what. Introducing too many new variables just complicates matters. I hope your rash goes away soon. Maybe you can resume Strattera at a later date and proceed more slowly. When the rash appeared, were you on any medicines others than Strattera and Lexapro?They told me to resume lexapro. They didn't think the two should interact in a bad way. It's hard telling though. I had to educate the ER staff about Strattera. They hadn't heard of it, thats why I took the bottle & the paper insert. Every once in a while I take Klonopin for anxiety, and in the past for seizures. I've been taking that off and on for a couple of years. But thats it, no pain meds or anything else. When I left the ER, I went to CVS Pharmacy to get my prescription & Benadryl. I spoke with the pharmacist about my rash & being on the Strattera. I explained to him that I started it over a week ago, and the rash started yesterday. He said a delayed allergic reaction to drugs related to Strattera are not uncommon. He said they received a fax from Lilly about Strattera, it stated side effects including possible allergic reactions. The pharmacist didn't see a problem for me to resume my lexapro. Like I said, I'm going to call my pdoc and see what she thinks. I had this same problem back when I was in high school (the severe rash), they thought it was an allergic reaction to codimal I was taking (the codeine). I took a Tylenol w/ codeine several years later, and I had no reaction from it. So I'm not so sure it was the codeine then. I look so funny. It reminds me of when I had measles as a child. Red dots everywhere!!! Thank you for your concern!!!!
Posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 22:26:43
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction » jodie, posted by zenclear on January 19, 2003, at 20:44:08
Thank you for the cocern & support Zenclear!!!! I really think it is the Strattera since any other meds I've taken like lexapro & klonopin, I never had a problem like this. My pharmacist said a delayed allergic reaction may be expected w/ Strattera. Thanks again!
Posted by BekkaH on January 19, 2003, at 23:50:23
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction, posted by jodie on January 19, 2003, at 22:26:43
Jodie,
Did you or do you have a fever?
Posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 0:10:23
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by BekkaH on January 19, 2003, at 23:50:23
Jodie,
Are you familiar with the medicine, Lamictal? Lamictal is an anticonvulsant that has been used very successfully in many depressed patients, primarily for antidepressant augmentation. It is also used successfully for treating bipolar depression. The reason I'm bringing it up here is that a rare but dangerous rash has been associated with Lamictal, and apparently the likelihood of the rash occurring is greatly reduced if Lamictal is started at a very low dose and increased very, very slowly over many weeks. The rash is also less likely if Lamictal is NOT combined with other anticonvulsants. Lamictal is also associated with many other, benign rashes. We know so little about Strattera, but I'm wondering whether rashes will prove to be less likely if the dose is started very low and increased very slowly, and if the medicine isn't combined with too many other meds. Perhaps the comparison is not a valid one since the two medications have such different mechanisms of action. I'm just thinking "out loud."
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 0:45:14
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 0:10:23
> Jodie,
> Are you familiar with the medicine, Lamictal? Lamictal is an anticonvulsant that has been used very successfully in many depressed patients, primarily for antidepressant augmentation. It is also used successfully for treating bipolar depression. The reason I'm bringing it up here is that a rare but dangerous rash has been associated with Lamictal, and apparently the likelihood of the rash occurring is greatly reduced if Lamictal is started at a very low dose and increased very, very slowly over many weeks. The rash is also less likely if Lamictal is NOT combined with other anticonvulsants. Lamictal is also associated with many other, benign rashes. We know so little about Strattera, but I'm wondering whether rashes will prove to be less likely if the dose is started very low and increased very slowly, and if the medicine isn't combined with too many other meds. Perhaps the comparison is not a valid one since the two medications have such different mechanisms of action. I'm just thinking "out loud."BekkaH-
No I didn't have a fever at the ER. I have a digital ear thermometer. I took my temp. a couple of hours b4 I went, it was 100.5.
Yes I am familiar with Lamictal. I hadn't heard about the rash. It is very possible that it could be the strattera causing the rash, especially since I started at a high dose, after only 3 days my pdoc had me on 80 mg's. I'm 120 lbs, 5'5", so maybe it was just too much. I would seriously consider trying a lower dose and gradually increasing, but I know I could not tolerate a rash like this again. I'm scared of the medication now. Thank you for your "thinking out loud" because I have the same thoughts. I just wish I knew for a fact what caused this horrible rash.
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 0:57:58
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 0:45:14
Another thought of mine is maybe its not even medication related. I don't recall eating anything unusual. I have no food allergies that I'm aware of. I always freak myself out over these kinds of things. I have been on the internet all night looking for possible diagnosis. You wouldn't believe some of the diseases I've been reading about that a rash can be a symptom. I decided to quit looking at diseases and symptoms for the night, I'll end up giving myself a panic attack. I did that once. I was having chest pains, so I got on the internet and convinced myself I was having a heart attack. I started gasping for air, and almost passed out. We had to go to the ER. It turned out to be acid reflux, and a panic attack!!! Well I'm off to bed, after I cover my body with benadryl gel :-)
Posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 1:02:29
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 0:45:14
I think that Lilly, the company that makes Strattera should know about this rash. I wonder whether your pdoc and/or the ER you went to should report it. I wonder whether this has happened to many others.
Do you feel sick in any way, other than the rash? Is your temperature normal now?
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 11:38:18
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 1:02:29
> I think that Lilly, the company that makes Strattera should know about this rash. I wonder whether your pdoc and/or the ER you went to should report it. I wonder whether this has happened to many others.
>
> Do you feel sick in any way, other than the rash? Is your temperature normal now?I thought about that. I'm going to mention it to my pdoc about reporting the rash. I don't feel sick, just tired. Benadryl really knocks me out! I don't have a temperature now.
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 15:46:26
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - Jodie, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 11:38:18
> > I think that Lilly, the company that makes Strattera should know about this rash. I wonder whether your pdoc and/or the ER you went to should report it. I wonder whether this has happened to many others.
> >
> > Do you feel sick in any way, other than the rash? Is your temperature normal now?
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> I thought about that. I'm going to mention it to my pdoc about reporting the rash. I don't feel sick, just tired. Benadryl really knocks me out! I don't have a temperature now.
Well, I just spoke with my pdoc, she said her Lilly Rep. will be in tomorrow, and she is going to let her know. She said she agrees that I should stay off the Strattera. I have an appointment coming up soon, she said we would discuss other options, like stimulants. She said she has had great success with her patients and Adderall. She told me to continue with the Lexapro for now. She said Strattera is just so new right now, and I'm not the first complaint of allergic reactions on Strattera at their office. She thinks it would just be risky for me to even wait for a while and start at a lower dose. I had mentioned that possibility to her. So I guess it will be stimulants for me.
Posted by Jim Boardman on January 20, 2003, at 15:57:28
In reply to Re: can this thread be attached » Jim Boardman, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2003, at 18:53:57
certainly it can, Robert... it's your board! I just didn't see the other string when I posted.
Jim
Posted by tia on January 20, 2003, at 18:48:53
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - BekkaH, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 15:46:26
Well I dont feel any different accept that my bladder has not stopped hurting. Not sure if its the medicine aggervating it or if it is IC. I go on 60mg tomorrow. Oh just so you all know nothing really dry, no rashes, actually really nothing but my bladder problem. Will keep updating.Anyone else have any different problems with the strattera?
Tia
Posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 20:16:57
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - BekkaH, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 15:46:26
> She thinks it would just be risky for me to >dose. I had mentioned that possibility to her. >So I guess it will be stimulants for me.
>
**********************************************Hi Jodie,
Well, even though this has been a disappointment, at least your doctor is willing to consider other options. Perhaps you are one of those very sensitive individuals who needs to start medications at very low doses and increase very gradually. I'm sensitive that way, but I have even more difficulties with med combinations. I can't combine anything with anything -- not even antibiotics. For me, it's either one drug by itself or none at all.I hope your rash goes away quickly so you can get some relief from the other options your doctor is considering. Please let us know how you're doing.
Bekka
Posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 20:24:57
In reply to Re: Strattera Fourth Day, posted by tia on January 20, 2003, at 18:48:53
> Well I dont feel any different accept that my bladder has not stopped hurting. Not sure if its the medicine aggervating it or if it is IC. I go on 60mg tomorrow. Oh just so you all know nothing really dry, no rashes, actually really nothing but my bladder problem. Will keep updating.
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Hi Tia,
I was interested to see that you were at such a high dose already. Do you feel that your bladder hurts more than it did before you began the medicine? I think you should definitely mention this to your doctor. I must mention that I know two women who have interstitial cystitis and, oddly enough, they were prescribed highly anticholinergic medicines for the purpose of causing urinary retention!! They were given Elavil, which is an old-fashioned antidepressant that is notorious for causing urinary retention. This was done intentionally, to counteract the sense of urgency they had from the IC. I was always stunned by this, but apparently this is/was common practice for treating IC.I hope you feel better soon.
Bekka
Posted by zenclear on January 20, 2003, at 20:37:08
In reply to Re: Strattera Fourth Day, posted by tia on January 20, 2003, at 18:48:53
>
> Well I dont feel any different accept that my bladder has not stopped hurting. Not sure if its the medicine aggervating it or if it is IC. I go on 60mg tomorrow. Oh just so you all know nothing really dry, no rashes, actually really nothing but my bladder problem. Will keep updating.
>
> Anyone else have any different problems with the strattera?
>
> TiaTry calcium citrate (not carbonate!) for the IC. It's a well-known Sx reliever, and also good for your bones!
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 22:02:43
In reply to Re: Strattera Allergic Reaction - jodie, posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 20:16:57
Well my rash is much better. Still have little red dots, but not inflamed like they were. I haven't been itching much either. I'm usually not sensitive to medications. Never have been to antibiotics. Benzo's have never affected me very much. I usually do decent on high or maximum doses of any meds. For my rash I am taking 50 mg's of Benadryl every 4 hours, Medrol (methylprednisolone) Pack, its a steroid. I'll be on that for a total of 6 days.
Yes, its nice that my doc is considering other options. Many pdoc's aren't willing to put adults on stimulants.
Thanks again for caring!!!
Posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 22:22:23
In reply to Re: Strattera Fourth Day - tia, posted by BekkaH on January 20, 2003, at 20:24:57
> > Well I dont feel any different accept that my bladder has not stopped hurting. Not sure if its the medicine aggervating it or if it is IC. I go on 60mg tomorrow. Oh just so you all know nothing really dry, no rashes, actually really nothing but my bladder problem. Will keep updating.
> *************************************************
> Hi Tia,
> I was interested to see that you were at such a high dose already. Do you feel that your bladder hurts more than it did before you began the medicine? I think you should definitely mention this to your doctor. I must mention that I know two women who have interstitial cystitis and, oddly enough, they were prescribed highly anticholinergic medicines for the purpose of causing urinary retention!! They were given Elavil, which is an old-fashioned antidepressant that is notorious for causing urinary retention. This was done intentionally, to counteract the sense of urgency they had from the IC. I was always stunned by this, but apparently this is/was common practice for treating IC.
>
> I hope you feel better soon.
> Bekka
>
>Hi Tia
Sorry to hear about your bladder. I have had problems with urinary retention in the past. It can make anyone miserable, just like being constipated!!
If you read the package insert or go to Strattera.com it says for children and adolescents over 70 kg body weight and adults: Strattera should be initiated at a total daily dose of 40 mg and increased after a minimum of 3 days to a target total daily dose of approximately 80 mg, and after 2 to 4 additional weeks the dose may be increased to a max of 100 mg. I asked my pdoc about this on the phone this morning. I questioned if maybe I was taking too much for my body weight. She said no, that for adults its pretty much standard, for children they go by weight. I was up to 80 after only 3 days. Everyone was questioning why I was on such a high dose. Of course after my rash, I agree it seams smarter to start out on a low dose and gradually increase it to 80.
Hope you feel better soon!!!
Jodie
Posted by tia on January 21, 2003, at 7:34:03
In reply to Re: Strattera Fourth Day - tia, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 22:22:23
I am now taking 60mg starting today. I stopped doing the slimfast drink today to see if it that was bothering my bladder. I dont think it is because i was doing slim fast two weeks prior of my bladder hurting.
I will se how the 60mg of strattera works today and tomorrow until i see the doctor on thursday. I know one thing i HATE IC! Its a pain (LOL). I have to make a joke some how. Anyways i will write at the end of day if i have any different changes with taking the higher dose.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Tia
Posted by jodie on January 21, 2003, at 12:56:07
In reply to Re: Strattera Fifth Day - tia, posted by tia on January 21, 2003, at 7:34:03
I have been on the slimfast diet a couple of times, it never bothered my bladder. I'm sure it's the Strattera. You never know, maybe it will get better when you increase your dose, some meds are strange like that. Hope you get to feeling better!!!
Jodie
Posted by mom2mbcb on January 21, 2003, at 13:46:34
In reply to Re: Strattera Fourth Day - tia, posted by jodie on January 20, 2003, at 22:22:23
> > > Well I dont feel any different accept that my bladder has not stopped hurting. Not sure if its the medicine aggervating it or if it is IC. I go on 60mg tomorrow. Oh just so you all know nothing really dry, no rashes, actually really nothing but my bladder problem. Will keep updating.
> > *************************************************
> > Hi Tia,
> > I was interested to see that you were at such a high dose already. Do you feel that your bladder hurts more than it did before you began the medicine? I think you should definitely mention this to your doctor. I must mention that I know two women who have interstitial cystitis and, oddly enough, they were prescribed highly anticholinergic medicines for the purpose of causing urinary retention!! They were given Elavil, which is an old-fashioned antidepressant that is notorious for causing urinary retention. This was done intentionally, to counteract the sense of urgency they had from the IC. I was always stunned by this, but apparently this is/was common practice for treating IC.
> >
> > I hope you feel better soon.
> > Bekka
> >
> >
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> Hi Tia
>
> Sorry to hear about your bladder. I have had problems with urinary retention in the past. It can make anyone miserable, just like being constipated!!
>
> If you read the package insert or go to Strattera.com it says for children and adolescents over 70 kg body weight and adults: Strattera should be initiated at a total daily dose of 40 mg and increased after a minimum of 3 days to a target total daily dose of approximately 80 mg, and after 2 to 4 additional weeks the dose may be increased to a max of 100 mg. I asked my pdoc about this on the phone this morning. I questioned if maybe I was taking too much for my body weight. She said no, that for adults its pretty much standard, for children they go by weight. I was up to 80 after only 3 days. Everyone was questioning why I was on such a high dose. Of course after my rash, I agree it seams smarter to start out on a low dose and gradually increase it to 80.
>
> Hope you feel better soon!!!
>
> Jodie
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> Hi Just found your post about straterra, i may begin it this monday. My main problems is working memory, executive functioning, depression, anxiety,typical adhd symptoms although really severe working memory impairment recently ..do you find straterra has helped with these and what are your side effects. weight gain, to sleepy or to hyper, or any sexual side effects? I am scared to take a new drug as i ave 2 children ages 1 and 2 and I am afraid to start new side effects.
please also forward this to my other email
mom2mbcb@yahoo.com
I may be changing my aol service soon.
Thanks
Deb
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