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Posted by blkvettes on March 10, 2003, at 14:59:04
In reply to SO DEPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by blkvettes on March 10, 2003, at 10:00:27
I cant stop crying, I have been like this all day. I dont even know why I am crying. I just cant stop!!!!!!! I hope tomorrow is better!!!! I cant stand this!!!!!!!!
Posted by male34 on March 10, 2003, at 17:33:20
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking, posted by blkvettes on March 9, 2003, at 8:33:13
listen stay strong please my friend i was on off paxil didnt work well for me but in 6th week of Lex,10mgs at 3pm with a bit of diazapam (benzo) its working slowly ,you said your doing mind over metter thats good very good cause it TRULY is a metter of strengthening your mind you can win over please hang in there god bless ill pray for you stay busy and stop thinking so much let it flow and go! good luck my friend
Posted by blkvettes on March 10, 2003, at 17:38:01
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking, posted by male34 on March 10, 2003, at 17:33:20
Thanks for posting I am trying to hang in there the best I can. Thanks for hope!!!!!!
Posted by Okpolosi on March 10, 2003, at 18:32:00
In reply to IS IT POSSIBLE WERE TAKING TO MUCH, posted by blkvettes on March 9, 2003, at 10:09:52
I too started on 5mg. Lots of side effects in the beginning. Went to 10mg during 5th week, 5 days ago. Have not felt the "good" yet and keep hoping.
Posted by Sadsack on March 10, 2003, at 19:58:40
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking » Sadsack, posted by Dysfunk on March 10, 2003, at 13:56:42
As strange as it sounds, it's comforting to me to not have any good reasons to be depressed. It is how I know it is all chemical and not my fault. If I was totally screwing up my life and refusing to get therapy, I'd have to blame myself, BUT I am making all the right choices and I recognize that I just have a medical condition that needs medication. When I find the right kind, I'll be back to my (relatively) normal self. If I was diabetic, or had some other disorder it'd be the same thing (I might not be so cranky and mopey but you get my drift). It's one of those life hurdles. You don't ask for it, you don't like it, but you deal with it because there is nothing else to do. Let me know how the med thing is going.
You'll get there, you have alot of insight and that is half the battle.
> Sadsack
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Thanks for your support. I am currently awaiting a call from my doctor any minute now. He did renew my script. I have to see if I am going up or down on it. I am so discouraged cause I have no real reason to be depressed and to cry, and I feel that way. It is like my body has a difficiency. I hate it. :^(
Posted by Brian1977 on March 10, 2003, at 22:07:59
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking » Dysfunk, posted by Sadsack on March 10, 2003, at 19:58:40
3rd day: I FEEL LIKE CRAP--first day back at work and i couldn't function--I felt like i had a bad hangover...I couldn't even concentrate...i haven't slept in four nights--i go to bed and cant sleep---i take lex. at 4:00. I dont think i can handle this.
I really wish my depression were chemical, its terrible knowing what the problem and knowing that nothing anyone can do can help.
I want so badly to be normal again.
Posted by Brian1977 on March 10, 2003, at 22:22:01
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
I didnt take Lex. this evening..It's not supposed to be like this. I want to sleep so bad. I am so tired. All day today it felt almost like i had the flu.--didnt start to pass until around 11:30 or so. This is the 3rd drug i have been on. Nothing seems to work. I dont know what to do. I think this is worse than the actually depression and anixety attacks.
Posted by blkvettes on March 11, 2003, at 9:01:11
In reply to Re: Newcomer, posted by Brian1977 on March 10, 2003, at 22:07:59
> 3rd day: I FEEL LIKE CRAP--first day back at work and i couldn't function--I felt like i had a bad hangover...I couldn't even concentrate...i haven't slept in four nights--i go to bed and cant sleep---i take lex. at 4:00. I dont think i can handle this.
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> I really wish my depression were chemical, its terrible knowing what the problem and knowing that nothing anyone can do can help.
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> I want so badly to be normal again.Hi there, I feel your pain and cry because I know how you feel. You can read some of my posts and they are depressing. I had bad experiences with paxil and zoloft. I feel better today after a horrible day yesterday. The doc should have maybe started you at 5mg if you had a bad time with other meds as I did. But if you are not having any bad side effects I guess it does not matter. Do you have anything else such as xanax or klonopin. These help, I take xanax it helps me through bad times and helps me sleep. But you dont want to take a lot. I take under 1mg per day. I wake up in the middle of the night break off a little piece and it helps. Talk to your doc!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done a lot of searching on lexapro and it can take up to 8 weeks to feel better. I have read many posts on message boards. I have gotten some good results but get so frustrated that it does not happen quicker. I have almost completed my 4th week and you have just started. Hang in there it is tough as hell!!!!!!!!!!!! Your going to have good days and very bad days. I cried all day yesterday and dont really know why. But today I feel better and dont know why. Feel free to email me and we can exchange sob stories. I also check this board all the time for new posts. I have a vette in the garage that I had not driven in 5 months until last week. I fear leaving the house by myself. Only left twice in 5 months. So you are further than I am!!!! Take care and dont give up!!!!!!!!
Posted by denise528 on March 11, 2003, at 11:37:42
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking » Sadsack, posted by Dysfunk on March 10, 2003, at 13:56:42
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> Thanks for your support. I am currently awaiting a call from my doctor any minute now. He did renew my script. I have to see if I am going up or down on it. I am so discouraged cause I have no real reason to be depressed and to cry, and I feel that way. It is like my body has a difficiency. I hate it. :^(Sadsack,
Just wanted to say and I know it's no consolation, that I know exactly how you're feeling and not knowing why makes it even worse as far as I'm concerned. If we knew why then maybe we could do something about it, I wish it was my job, my boyfriend, anything then I could change that but to feel crap for no reason is awful, when I'm feeling bad I could be sitting on an paradise island on a beautiful day and still feel awful. That's the worse thing about it there seems to be nothing that you can do that can change the way you feel, I always feel totally powerless.
I was saying to my boyfriend (if you can still call him that, I no longer feel like a human being never mind anyones girlfriend) that I have endured this nightmare for almost two years now and I don't even know how or why it all started.I would say hang on in there but it's a lot easier said than done, that said we haven't got much choice really have we.
Just wondering if you've tried Zyprexa, 10mg has helped me in the past. Also, what about ECT, would you consider this?
Denise
Posted by NOTINSANEJUSTPPMD on March 11, 2003, at 21:56:01
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking, posted by denise528 on March 11, 2003, at 11:37:42
Hi! I know that all seems so helpless and that nothing will work! But things will really get better. You need to give your meds a chance and not get so upset so soon. I was on the wrong meds for over a year and gained over 55 lbs and almost lost my husband and children. Today after 4 1/2 months of being on the correct meds (wellbutrin sr 150 mgs twice a day, and just recently bumped to 30 mg of Lexapro once a day) I am feeling great! You just need to give the meds time to work in your system so your system can rebalance with them. It does work. Just all of you need to hang tight. They say anywhere from 2 to 8 weeks to start feeling something. If you feel after two weeks it might not be enough contact your doc and they can bump you up a bit. Take care!NISJPPMD
Posted by blkvettes on March 12, 2003, at 20:43:18
In reply to ReNo More Good News Lex is not working » denise528, posted by NOTINSANEJUSTPPMD on March 11, 2003, at 21:56:01
I was on an online chat this evening about panic attacks. They started talking about chocolate. One person said it raised serotonin and does other things for the brain. I found this interesting since I quit eating chocolate months before I went to my 5 months of hell. I was a chocolate junkie and started researching. Sure enough this is said to be true. The reason I quit was because of insomnia. I dont know if there is a connection but I just ate my 1st candy bar in 8 months. Research it and you may be surprised. If you research panic attacks they say avoid chocolate. I have nothing to lose!!!!!!!!!! I will post back later to update if this helps or not.
Posted by Sadsack on March 12, 2003, at 22:16:53
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking, posted by denise528 on March 11, 2003, at 11:37:42
Hey Denise, just remember that none of this is your fault. And bless your boyfriend for hanging in there. It's sometimes as hard on them as us. I used to feel guilty about what my husband went thru with me but then I realized that I'd stick by him if he developed an illness that he couldn't cure. So I guess it's just part of being in a relationship. Are you sure that if you were on a tropical island you wouldn't feel a little better? I think I might, at least for a while. But I know my disease and I know that relief comes fleetingly at first then in larger increments then finally I have more good days than bad. Then I get off meds for awhile and do ok. I always try to retain some little fragment of hope. During the worst of it I cut myself some slack. When I need to cry, I cry. When I need to have a pity party, I carve out a safe place and do it. Trying to be brave all the time sucks eggs and more to the point, doesn't move you any closer to a cure.
I haven't tried Zyprexa, haven't even heard of it, what's it supposed to do? As for ECT, yes, I would try it if all other methods failed. It's a much kinder gentler procedure than it used to be. It's not a first choice though.
So far the Lexapro is ok. It's not as good as the effexor when I furst used it (then it pooped out). I don't know yet if I will ask to kick the Lex up to 30 or just wait for a little sunshine and warm weather to come my way-that may help. I've got a doc who usually will go along with whatever I think will help. (Good thing I'm fairly educated about my options!) Hang in there and don't hesitate to complain to your doc if what you're using isn't working. They assume everything is ok if you don't keep going back. I don't think it's lack of interest, just that they're busy and often don't have the staff to follow up like they should.>
Good Luck Girlfriend, hope something works for you soon. Take Care,
Sadsack> Sadsack:
> Just wanted to say and I know it's no consolation, that I know exactly how you're feeling and not knowing why makes it even worse as far as I'm concerned. If we knew why then maybe we could do something about it, I wish it was my job, my boyfriend, anything then I could change that but to feel crap for no reason is awful, when I'm feeling bad I could be sitting on an paradise island on a beautiful day and still feel awful. That's the worse thing about it there seems to be nothing that you can do that can change the way you feel, I always feel totally powerless.
> I was saying to my boyfriend (if you can still call him that, I no longer feel like a human being never mind anyones girlfriend) that I have endured this nightmare for almost two years now and I don't even know how or why it all started.
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> I would say hang on in there but it's a lot easier said than done, that said we haven't got much choice really have we.
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> Just wondering if you've tried Zyprexa, 10mg has helped me in the past. Also, what about ECT, would you consider this?
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> Denise
Posted by Sadsack on March 12, 2003, at 22:24:47
In reply to CHOCOLATE AND SEROTONIN, posted by blkvettes on March 12, 2003, at 20:43:18
I for one believe I have been self medicating with chocolate for YEARS. Ask any woman what they crave during "pms season" and you'll hear CHOCOLATE! Chocolate does have some caffeine and that could be why you weren't sleeping. But, the boost in your mood is proven-so it's a trade off. Maybe you should try to avoid it late in the day or "pace yourself" so you don't go back to the insomnia thing. Hope it works for you.
Take Care,
Sadsack
I was on an online chat this evening about panic attacks. They started talking about chocolate. One person said it raised serotonin and does other things for the brain. I found this interesting since I quit eating chocolate months before I went to my 5 months of hell. I was a chocolate junkie and started researching. Sure enough this is said to be true. The reason I quit was because of insomnia. I dont know if there is a connection but I just ate my 1st candy bar in 8 months. Research it and you may be surprised. If you research panic attacks they say avoid chocolate. I have nothing to lose!!!!!!!!!! I will post back later to update if this helps or not.
Posted by male34 on March 13, 2003, at 10:07:31
In reply to CHOCOLATE AND SEROTONIN, posted by blkvettes on March 12, 2003, at 20:43:18
IF I EAT BLACK DARK CHOCALATE ENTEMANS DONUTS FOR EXAMPLE THE NEXT DAY IM ANXIUOS ,I THINK CHOCOLATE ESPECIALY DARK CHOCLATE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANXIETY, JUST MY THOUGHTS HOPE TO HELP
Posted by mills on March 13, 2003, at 10:23:54
In reply to Re: CHOCOLATE AND SEROTONIN, posted by male34 on March 13, 2003, at 10:07:31
wouldn't it be something if the answer to all the world's anxiety was a piece of chocolate; would send pfizer and forest labs into a tale spin; and i would have resolved my constant worry about what i should be doing with my life by going into the chocolate business, thereby killing two birds with one stone, or is that one bird with two stones?
> IF I EAT BLACK DARK CHOCALATE ENTEMANS DONUTS FOR EXAMPLE THE NEXT DAY IM ANXIUOS ,I THINK CHOCOLATE ESPECIALY DARK CHOCLATE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANXIETY, JUST MY THOUGHTS HOPE TO HELP
Posted by Kathii on March 13, 2003, at 15:14:54
In reply to Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!!, posted by mills on March 13, 2003, at 10:23:54
Yeeeeaaarrrsss ago, I had a boyfriend who would bring me the HUGE Hershey's Special Dark candy bar (my fave) whenever I was severely depressed. Maybe he was on to something?
Chocolate certainly would be cheaper as far as meds are concerned, but wouldn't our dental bills go up? ;)
> wouldn't it be something if the answer to all the world's anxiety was a piece of chocolate; would send pfizer and forest labs into a tale spin; and i would have resolved my constant worry about what i should be doing with my life by going into the chocolate business, thereby killing two birds with one stone, or is that one bird with two stones?
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Posted by Krissy P on March 13, 2003, at 18:45:56
In reply to Re: Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!!, posted by Kathii on March 13, 2003, at 15:14:54
Hi, Years ago my boyfriend at the time looooooooooved eating those miniature Hershey Dark Chocolate candy. He loved them and I remember reading somewhere recently that they had a compound in them to help mood-I swear lol
Wonder if that's true.
Pretty cool huh?
Kristen
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Posted by oldhand on March 13, 2003, at 21:07:45
In reply to Re: Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!! » Kathii, posted by Krissy P on March 13, 2003, at 18:45:56
I ate TWO Cadbury's caramel eggs last night and feel GREAT! Can't keep it up though as I finally lost some weight from the Celexa/Remeron cocktail I was on before Lex. Grin
Posted by BJS on March 14, 2003, at 0:54:59
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl » hushpup, posted by EGR on February 7, 2003, at 20:42:45
It has been four months now, and Honestly I really can’t say that I have any complaints about lexapro. The major difference I noticed when I switched to lexapro was that I did not need as much sleep. Celexa was actually sedating me and I didn’t even realize it. I went from sleeping 9-12 hours a night and wakening up exhausted to only needing to sleep 8-9 hours, and feeling well rested.
Posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 1:15:42
In reply to Re: Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!! » Krissy P, posted by oldhand on March 13, 2003, at 21:07:45
LOL LOL I hear ya:-) Good for your weight loss on your cocktail of Remeron and Celexa!! Can I ask if you get or did you get really bad aches and joint pain when you first started on Remeron? I had a scoop of chocolate fudge ice cream tonight.I won't talk about chocolate anymore. *grin*
All the best, Kristen
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I ate TWO Cadbury's caramel eggs last night and feel GREAT! Can't keep it up though as I finally lost some weight from the Celexa/Remeron cocktail I was on before Lex. Grin
Posted by lcg4 on March 14, 2003, at 15:01:06
In reply to CHOCOLATE AND SEROTONIN, posted by blkvettes on March 12, 2003, at 20:43:18
My 14 year old son has been on 10 mg Paxil since Sept.2002. He got a terrible nose bleed today. Could the paxil cause this. Just wondered if this has happened to anyone else on SSRI's.
Posted by blkvettes on March 14, 2003, at 15:31:17
In reply to Paxil and Nose Bleeds, posted by lcg4 on March 14, 2003, at 15:01:06
> My 14 year old son has been on 10 mg Paxil since Sept.2002. He got a terrible nose bleed today. Could the paxil cause this. Just wondered if this has happened to anyone else on SSRI's.
Hi there it is listed as a very rare side effect. Go to this site for infohttp://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/PAX1319.HTM
Posted by oldhand on March 14, 2003, at 19:01:43
In reply to Re: Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!! » oldhand, posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 1:15:42
> LOL LOL I hear ya:-) Good for your weight loss on your cocktail of Remeron and Celexa!! Can I ask if you get or did you get really bad aches and joint pain when you first started on Remeron? I had a scoop of chocolate fudge ice cream tonight.I won't talk about chocolate anymore. *grin*
> All the best, Kristen
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> I ate TWO Cadbury's caramel eggs last night and feel GREAT! Can't keep it up though as I finally lost some weight from the Celexa/Remeron cocktail I was on before Lex. Grin
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>I don't remember any particular aches and pains on the Celexa/Remeron, but I am 53 and have general aches alot, not to mention a big dog that pulls me around. Being overweight affected my knees, my breathing and I had the "sneeze/weturpants syndrome". ;} I was also sedated on the combination so switched to Lexapro (after a horrific trial and withdrawal on Effexor). Now am happy on Lexapro and have lost 20+ of the 50 pounds I gained. I have a waist again!!!!
Keep well........
Posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 21:23:59
In reply to Re: Hershey's Bar a Day Keeps Insanity Away!! » Krissy P, posted by oldhand on March 14, 2003, at 19:01:43
Posted by Dysfunk on March 15, 2003, at 13:52:22
In reply to Re: No moreGOOD NEWS! Lex IS NOTworking » Dysfunk, posted by Sadsack on March 9, 2003, at 23:40:43
As you may have read, I went from feeling good when I increased my dosage to 20 mg of Lex, then suddenly dipped down into quite a depression. It lasted about 4 days, maybe even mildly for a week. I decided to ride it out with the slim chance it may start working again for me.
Well, I did come out of that depression and feel pretty good, but I am not sleeping well now. I find it hard to fall asleep at night with Temazepan and Xanax (which I have taken all along). I have restless sleeps. Wake up tired. I do feel energized at strange times- and feel like sleeping midday. My workouts have given me more energy, but I can't seem to shut the energy off to sleep.
My doctor is away. I decided to still giving Lex a chance. Unless I dip into a depression again, I will stick this out. Still feeling anxiety tho.
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