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Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 11:30:11
In reply to re: to titrate Up or not to titrate Up, posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 8:58:51
hey vandy,
you're outdoing yourself here ....
> > of course, it is only titrating up which is at issue ...
> > .... we presume that titrating Down would be mandatory ... ... as it is with all ssris
>
> Titrate, how I luv ya - how I luv ya
> My dear sweet titrate
> I'd give the world to see
> SSRI's that never give SE's to me
> Oh Titrate, Titrate
> My dear sweet titrate
> Unhappy face - I'll see you no more
> Cuz that's what Lexapro is for! <... i like this a lot ...
... we should judge antidepressants by their poetry ...
.... maybe a lex haiku.... we are open for submissions
~ jim
Posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 12:52:19
In reply to re: Lexapro Poetry » vandy, posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 11:30:11
> hey vandy,
>
> you're outdoing yourself here ....
>
>
> > > of course, it is only titrating up which is at issue ...
> > > .... we presume that titrating Down would be mandatory ... ... as it is with all ssris
> >
> > Titrate, how I luv ya - how I luv ya
> > My dear sweet titrate
> > I'd give the world to see
> > SSRI's that never give SE's to me
> > Oh Titrate, Titrate
> > My dear sweet titrate
> > Unhappy face - I'll see you no more
> > Cuz that's what Lexapro is for! <
>
> ... i like this a lot ...
> ... we should judge antidepressants by their poetry ...
> .... maybe a lex haiku
>
> .... we are open for submissions
>
> ~ jim
>Pomes ya want
pomes I got
Yours for the clicking on
<A HREF="www.olmstead.net/poetry.html">Vandy's poetry</a> but I warn you, it's all mine and sounds like I do!Haiku?
Lexapro is good
When broken smiles need fixing
If given a chance.Will that do?
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 14:41:25
In reply to re: Lexapro Poetry, posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 12:52:19
terrific !
and thanks ....
i'll just bet the folks on effexor aren't writing pomes to it ... .... !
here's mine ...
To Lexa
Oh,
Bliss!
Where is Thy
Sting ?<to be screamed during enduring SEs>
<and then while waiting for kick in>
<and then a moaned mantra, to ward off poop out>
~ jim
p.s. Hello to Everyone else?
... ... We NEED your submissions to our Lex Poetry tournament/festival, Please ...... we should be planning to get our team up for the Antidepressant Poetry Slam ... ... (!)
... ... (it could happen!)... ... HA!
take care !
~ j
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 14:45:05
In reply to re: Lexapro Poetry, posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 12:52:19
hi vandy,
pBabble doesn't support HTML ...
but you can post links that will work by including all that "http://" prefix jazz with the url ...~ jim
Posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 16:57:56
In reply to Re: update » Diva Blue, posted by Peter on September 27, 2003, at 6:25:14
Hey Peter,
and every one else!Day 5 of Lex. Good and Bad SEs are starting to fade. Was hoping that not being hungry thing was going to stick around. However, I do feel sleepier today than I have been. First 2 days, I was wired up like a stolen car. Took 2 tylenol PM and that ended all that.
Good thing is I havent cried and felt mopey for a week. Overall, I would say I am feeling better.(fingers crossed---dont want to jinx myself---perhaps I should start chanting mantra)
Hope you are doing well today too. talk to you soon, I hope.
Posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 17:08:57
In reply to re: To Lexa ..., posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 14:41:25
Lex-a-pro,
how I love thee so.
Although I could do w/o
being cold.The Hunger pains gone,
and my heart moving on,
oh Lex-a-pro,
How I love thee so.With friends to converse,
and poems to read,
starting to reverse
my agony creed.oh lexapro. lexapro
work for me, and I
will love you so.
***here is my submission---far from the high standard set here--but I had to add my 2 cents.
Posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 21:12:49
In reply to re: Lexapro Poetry » vandy, posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 14:45:05
> hi vandy,
>
> pBabble doesn't support HTML ...
> but you can post links that will work by including all that "http://" prefix jazz with the url ...
>
> ~ jimYou mean like:
http://www.olmstead.net/poetry.html
the line in the middle of these three?
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 21:51:02
In reply to re: Lexapro Poetry, posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 21:12:49
> > hi vandy,
> >
> > pBabble doesn't support HTML ...
> > but you can post links that will work by including all that "http://"; prefix jazz with the url ...
> >
> > ~ jim
>
> You mean like:
> http://www.olmstead.net/poetry.html
> the line in the middle of these three?precisely ... ... as you can see ... ...
... pBabble tried to make just the prefix into a link as well ...... i have read some of your writing, vandy
... ... impressive ...
... very touching ... moving ...
... i enjoyed it very much ... ...
... ... and very forthcoming of you ...
... thank you again
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 21:54:56
In reply to re: To Lexa ..., posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 17:08:57
hi Diva,
i liked your poem !
> Lex-a-pro,
> how I love thee so.
> Although I could do w/o
> being cold.
>
> The Hunger pains gone,
> and my heart moving on,
> oh Lex-a-pro,
> How I love thee so.
>
> With friends to converse,
> and poems to read,
> starting to reverse
> my agony creed.
>
> oh lexapro. lexapro
> work for me, and I
> will love you so.
>
>
> ***here is my submission---far from the high standard set here--but I had to add my 2 cents.
>... and i appreciate your making this offering to our Lex Poetry collection ...
Thanks!
~ jim
Posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 21:59:13
In reply to re: .. :Lex-a-pro: .., posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 21:54:56
Thank you Jim, for being so accepting of my contribution. After sending it, there was a moment of anxiety....who am I to include myself in this group of people....what if they think I am an idiot....no one invited me here....yadda yadda yadda.
so, anyway. Your comments made me feel better.
thanks!
diva
Posted by vandy on September 27, 2003, at 22:06:53
In reply to re: .. :Lex-a-pro: .., posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 21:59:13
> Thank you Jim, for being so accepting of my contribution. After sending it, there was a moment of anxiety....who am I to include myself in this group of people....what if they think I am an idiot....no one invited me here....yadda yadda yadda.
>
> so, anyway. Your comments made me feel better.
>
> thanks!
> diva
>YO DIVA!
Never forget:
YOU'RE UNIQUE
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.Seriously, one of a kind can't be compared. You stand there incredible in your own right!
Keep them cards, letters and poetry coming!
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 22:28:26
In reply to re: .. :Lex-a-pro: .., posted by Diva Blue on September 27, 2003, at 21:59:13
hey diva,
> Thank you Jim, for being so accepting of my contribution. >
you are more than welcome ...
> After sending it, there was a moment of anxiety....who am I to include myself in this group of people....what if they think I am an idiot....no one invited me here....yadda yadda yadda.
>
> so, anyway. Your comments made me feel better.
>
> thanks!
> diva
>... i am grateful to you for your contributions and i thank you for all of them ... your comments, your insights, your poetry ... thanks ...
... we all need all of the offerings we all may share ...
... it's what makes this a special place ...
... besides wanting the support and encouragement to endure our med(s) ...
... and that everybody IS welcome here ...... everyone comes here with their problems that brought them to lexapro ... and lexapro brought them here ....
... i feel like every post is implicitly addressed to each of us ... ... asking for any response at all ... no one wants to have no one reply to their posts .... ....
... and the value of the cumulative wisdom from our lex thread depends on our posters giving us everything they experience with la lex ... ...
... aye, and she can be a wicked harpy indeed, there ...
take care,
~ jim
Posted by oldhand on September 27, 2003, at 22:51:28
In reply to Re: cel vs lex weight » Diva Blue, posted by Esmarelda on September 26, 2003, at 9:27:03
> I am not near as hungry when taking Lexapro. I have lost about 5 pounds in 3 or so months since beginning Lexapro. Good luck!
Have been on Lexapro for 10 months now. Have lost over 40 pounds that I gained on a Celexa/Remeron combination. But I also quit drinking beer at the same time which accounts for some of the loss I'm sure.
I also am not so hungry and eat well. Best of luck and
Peace.
Posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 22:59:16
In reply to Re: cel vs lex weight » Esmarelda, posted by oldhand on September 27, 2003, at 22:51:28
great to hear from you ...
i failed to greet you the last time you posted ...
... i missed you then ... not this time
... how long have you been on lex now ?and any other update there would be appreciated too ...
take care friend,
~ jim
Posted by oldhand on September 27, 2003, at 23:29:02
In reply to oldhand, posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 22:59:16
> great to hear from you ...
> i failed to greet you the last time you posted ...
> ... i missed you then ... not this time
> ... how long have you been on lex now ?
>
> and any other update there would be appreciated too ...
>
> take care friend,
> ~ jim
Hi Jim.
Have been on Lexapro since November 2002. I still take 100mg of Trazodone at bedtime too.
I'm doing fine on the Lexapro at 20mg. The addition of the Wellbutrin XL about a week ago has also improved my sense of wellbeing but has some pretty discouraging SE's. The major one being diarrhea. I had experienced this with plain old Wellbutrin a couple of years ago and had to quit it. Hoped that the XL formulation wouldn't repeat the problem. Am also sweating alot again but that I can handle but I hate it when my legs fall asleep from being on the toilet too long (grin).
Am going to try to tough it out for another week or so in hopes my body adjusts.
Thanks for the holler and I am going to work on a pome!!
Posted by lil' jimi on September 28, 2003, at 2:56:25
In reply to Re: oldhand » lil' jimi, posted by oldhand on September 27, 2003, at 23:29:02
hi Oldhand,
you wrote:
> Have been on Lexapro since November 2002. I still take 100mg of Trazodone at bedtime too.
> I'm doing fine on the Lexapro at 20mg. The addition of the Wellbutrin XL about a week ago has also improved my sense of wellbeing but has some pretty discouraging SE's. The major one being diarrhea. I had experienced this with plain old Wellbutrin a couple of years ago and had to quit it. Hoped that the XL formulation wouldn't repeat the problem. Am also sweating alot again but that I can handle but I hate it when my legs fall asleep from being on the toilet too long (grin). >really sorry to hear you're suffering diarrhea ... ...
... diarrhea can cause dehydration ...
... lexapro can induce dehydration ...
... wellbutrin can induce dehydration ...
... dehydration can cause diarrhea ...i guess what i'm trying to say ...
(and i'm sorry, i didn't mean to make that so ominous there!)
... stay hydrated ... drink lots of water and juices ... ... which also means we take our vitamins ... can't get deficient .... and our electrolytes ... omega3s and magnesium, heard about them from larry hoover here ...but if you're not at least replacing the fluids you lose to diarrhea, then you're getting more dehydrated ... ... of course ....
> Am going to try to tough it out for another week or so in hopes my body adjusts. >
best of luck ... make sure your prescriber knows about your SEs ... ... they could have suggestions for the diarrhea maybe ...
> Thanks for the holler and I am going to work on a pome!! >
yeah, well, you know, it's my pleasure really ...
... can't help but become fond of folks we have suffered and shared with this long here ...
... it's always good for me to read your posts and i appreciate them ...i am impressed with what i've read about wellbutrin ... ... i would definitely want to try to give it every chance to work for you ...
... have you seen this link?
http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-b04.html#Head_1
... in case you felt like details ... bupripion being older, is much better studied than lexapro ... and it's in its own class ... it's the only aminoketone antidepressant ...i think we all struggle to find our therapeutic dose and optimum combo ... ... you moreso than i have ... ... it's tough to have our brain chemistry stirred up ... ... i admire your stamina through it ... ... hang in there !
... i am looking forward to that pome!
... i may have to write me an ode to a pome ...Take Care !
~ jim
Posted by oldhand on September 28, 2003, at 12:27:49
In reply to re: re: oldhand, posted by lil' jimi on September 28, 2003, at 2:56:25
> hi Oldhand,
>
> you wrote:
> > Have been on Lexapro since November 2002. I still take 100mg of Trazodone at bedtime too.
> > I'm doing fine on the Lexapro at 20mg. The addition of the Wellbutrin XL about a week ago has also improved my sense of wellbeing but has some pretty discouraging SE's. The major one being diarrhea. I had experienced this with plain old Wellbutrin a couple of years ago and had to quit it. Hoped that the XL formulation wouldn't repeat the problem. Am also sweating alot again but that I can handle but I hate it when my legs fall asleep from being on the toilet too long (grin). >
>
> really sorry to hear you're suffering diarrhea ... ...
> ... diarrhea can cause dehydration ...
> ... lexapro can induce dehydration ...
> ... wellbutrin can induce dehydration ...
> ... dehydration can cause diarrhea ...
>
> i guess what i'm trying to say ...
> (and i'm sorry, i didn't mean to make that so ominous there!)
> ... stay hydrated ... drink lots of water and juices ... ... which also means we take our vitamins ... can't get deficient .... and our electrolytes ... omega3s and magnesium, heard about them from larry hoover here ...
>
> but if you're not at least replacing the fluids you lose to diarrhea, then you're getting more dehydrated ... ... of course ....
>
> > Am going to try to tough it out for another week or so in hopes my body adjusts. >
>
> best of luck ... make sure your prescriber knows about your SEs ... ... they could have suggestions for the diarrhea maybe ...
>
> > Thanks for the holler and I am going to work on a pome!! >
>
> yeah, well, you know, it's my pleasure really ...
> ... can't help but become fond of folks we have suffered and shared with this long here ...
> ... it's always good for me to read your posts and i appreciate them ...
>
> i am impressed with what i've read about wellbutrin ... ... i would definitely want to try to give it every chance to work for you ...
> ... have you seen this link?
> http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-b04.html#Head_1
> ... in case you felt like details ... bupripion being older, is much better studied than lexapro ... and it's in its own class ... it's the only aminoketone antidepressant ...
>
> i think we all struggle to find our therapeutic dose and optimum combo ... ... you moreso than i have ... ... it's tough to have our brain chemistry stirred up ... ... i admire your stamina through it ... ... hang in there !
>
> ... i am looking forward to that pome!
> ... i may have to write me an ode to a pome ...
>
> Take Care !
> ~ jimOK, I slept on it and here's my contribution to the mix:
Lexapro,
Up from the depths I go
Climbing the mountain I slid down.
Forging the streams that once were torrents
I could not swim.Surfacing slowly I see
The light ahead of me
While I wrestle foes that once were
Monsters I could not tame.
Gonna keep fighting and winning. Peace,
Shelley
Posted by melley on September 28, 2003, at 16:47:42
In reply to Re: Anyone have weight gain???, posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:37:20
I thought people might find this interesting. I was taking 10mg of lexapro and then started acupuncture. The acupuncturist who is also a nurse told me the process might lessen my need for lexapro. After a few weeks I was so tired all the time. So I talked it over with the psychiatrist and he said that acupuncture could make meds more potent in your system. So I went down to 5 mg and feel great. Thought others might like to try this. It balances out your mental state as well as helping with physical stuff.
Posted by lil' jimi on September 28, 2003, at 16:49:31
In reply to re: re: oldhand » lil' jimi, posted by oldhand on September 28, 2003, at 12:27:49
hi Shelley,
you wrote:
>
> Lexapro,
> Up from the depths I go
> Climbing the mountain I slid down.
> Forging the streams that once were torrents
> I could not swim.
>
> Surfacing slowly I see
> The light ahead of me
> While I wrestle foes that once were
> Monsters I could not tame.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gonna keep fighting and winning.
> Peace,
> Shelleythank you very much! ... ... simply excellent ...
thank you ...
~ jim
Posted by theo on September 28, 2003, at 17:05:46
In reply to Re: oldhand » lil' jimi, posted by oldhand on September 27, 2003, at 23:29:02
I'm on the same combo but in reverse. Have been on Wellbutrin SR 150mg (now XL) for a few months and my pdoc added Lex for slight anxiety and panic. The Well's doing a pretty good job but just added the Lex about a week ago, just trying 5mg. Did your doctor suggest this is a good combo? Just curious to hear anothers opinion on the WellPro combo.
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 28, 2003, at 19:47:14
In reply to re: vandy's URL, posted by lil' jimi on September 27, 2003, at 21:51:02
> > > you can post links that will work by including all that "http://" prefix jazz with the url ...
>
> ... pBabble tried to make just the prefix into a link as well ...Sorry, should be fixed now...
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 28, 2003, at 19:56:47
In reply to re: re: oldhand » lil' jimi, posted by oldhand on September 28, 2003, at 12:27:49
> OK, I slept on it and here's my contribution to the mix...
Thanks, it's great to see so much creativity, but I'd like to redirect poems to Psycho-Social-Babble. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030913/msgs/264111.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Sunshine4u on September 29, 2003, at 11:11:00
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness » blkvettes, posted by jjalruby on September 26, 2003, at 11:53:51
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to share my withdrawal experience with all of you that have tried Lexapro. I have mild depression and have used many anti-depressants and this by far has been the worst one for me. I have been on it for about 3 months and realized that I did not laugh anymore. Nothing was funny and although I wasn't depressed, I sure didn't feel happy either. I have quit cold turkey on meds before and NEVER had withdrawal from any of them. This one has caused the dizziness and made me feel sick to my stomach and I am sooooo verrrry tired all the time! My sense of humor is coming back, but still after being off Lexapro for 3 weeks now, the withdrawal symptoms have made me feel so very bad. I also have gained about 10 pounds while on it. I was only on 10 mg's a day, and this by far has be the worst pill for me. I see my DR today and I don't know if I will be able to go back on anything else, because this had truly scared me. I think I would rather be depressed than feel like this. For those of you who have had success, I am happy for you. God Bless Everyone.
Posted by PHV on September 29, 2003, at 20:39:15
In reply to lexapro and acupuncture, posted by melley on September 28, 2003, at 16:47:42
Hello all -
Thought I'd check in again to update my Lexapro experience. I started Lex in July for depression. Felt rather immediate results and then started suffering severe anxiety suddenly during week ten. With the support of this board, I went to see my pdoc right away and she prescribed Busbar for daily use and Xanex for extreme anxiety days - which fortunately have been fairly rare. I am beginning week three of dealing with anxiety for the first time in my life. I guess in some aspect, I'm starting to get used to it. However, it's difficult when I'm at my desk during work having to perform rather mundane tasks. I excel under pressure now with all this energy - but it kills me when I don't have to constantly be on the go. I'm contemplating visiting my pdoc again shortly. I would like to discuss other possibilities her. As much as I get frustrated at being so wired most of the day with the anxiety and jaw clenching - my life is so much better and more bearable than it's been for years. I'm now really starting to realize how long I was suffering from depression. I feel like I'm back to my old self. I guess I'm afraid if the doc tries to bring my "high" down too low - I'll be as low as I was before. I'm sure there's a happy medium somewhere in between - and thanks to all these posts here - I read them every day and feel as though I'm struggling with many others and I'm not alone. So thanks for that everyone.
Hoping this finds you all well - and thanks again for being my sounding board.
Patty
Posted by Diva Blue on September 29, 2003, at 20:54:00
In reply to Patty Update, posted by PHV on September 29, 2003, at 20:39:15
hello all.
I just wanted to touch base. Miss hearing from some of you...hope you are all well.
lex is starting to make me sleepier---I was enjoying the little bit of "zip" I had felt at first. Wondering, since this drug seems to cause so many ups and downs just during the course of a normal day, if the "zip" will eventually return.
Am less hungry...which is a great thing...but I still feel like my appetite isnt as decreased as it was the first few days.
Another thing...and this is VERY strange, and I cant believe I am even talking about this....but, I have noticed that my saliva glands seem to be in overdrive. I wake up at night, with my pillow wet (not damp) WET from me drooling on it in my sleep. Gross. Anyone else experience this? or am I just going crazy in addition to being depressed?
Please let me know how you all are. I look forward to checkin in here and hearing something from you all.
Take care.
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