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Posted by Nemo2 on March 21, 2004, at 13:24:18
In reply to Re: 70 Days on Lex, posted by Simus on March 21, 2004, at 5:36:20
>>Can you give me a little more info on how much you think exercise and diet have improved your condition?
On exercise: I know the running releases endorphins and makes me feel good for hours afterword. I also know that it increases my already fast metabolism and allows me to keep my body weight close to "normal" and still eat a lot of food. I've been running for 20 years, so it precedes the serious problems with depression I've had in the last few years. My GPdoc tells me that my stupidly busy work schedule and previous alcohol habits would have taken a much worse toll if I was not so exercise fit. So it's more a matter of how much worse depression and anxiety would have been without years of exercise than it is how much it's helped me improve the depression. Might have already saved my life, who knows.
>>Have you read Depression Free, Naturally?
Have not, but I did find the www.healthrecovery website this morning and they offer the book. Sounds like a good source of info for me. Thanks.
> > The goal is to see what a proper amino acid balance and minimized effect of blood sugar variability does to my depression and life long digestive problems.
> >
> Could you please let me know what you find out? I am just curious (OK, nosy).Too early to tell as of today. I have much to learn about the amino acids. There are lots of differing opinions in this community among patients and docs, both. I suspect it's individual and the cure for each of us is a matter of careful study, patience, good counsel and very careful trial and error.
I'm 10 weeks into 10mg daily of Lex and I've got to be careful what and when and how I approach this Tryptophan route. I read Internet sources for 2 hours this morning and I've seen every imaginable opinion.
One opinion I have is that getting the amino through the Blood Brain Barrier is the biggest variable for all of us. If you can accomplish that with supplements consistently, I think you can get mentally healthy without SSRI's. 20 years ago I tried using BHT in crystaline oral doses for managing herpes symptoms. There was no noticeable effect at all until one night. I took a dose with no food on a stomach that had been empty for about 6 hours and then woke up an hour later with a very strong reaction. Not a bad one, just very noticeable. I am convinced that this was because it was the ONLY time in about 30 doses that I got the BHT through the BBB. Just my uneducated guess.
Thanks for responding and my best to you. Nemo.
Posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 14:52:30
In reply to RE: Mrs C., posted by mystic on March 20, 2004, at 22:45:59
Hey, Well I made it! All of the girls have left and the clean up has begun. Things went pretty well. We got to bed around 1am and awoke at 7:30. Not too bad, they were good. The old me would have been a nervous wreck worrying about getting the house messed up. The new me didn't sweat that stuff at all. It felt really good just to enjoy the party. I wonder if my kids noticed the improvement of Mom not being so anal! I am in the process now of getting things cleaned up but needed a break and a piece of chocolate. Decided to check the board. Well, back to work now. Hope your day is going okay. I'll come back later to look at more posts. Mrs. C
Posted by mystic on March 21, 2004, at 17:31:23
In reply to RE: Mystic, posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 14:52:30
Hey Mrs C..think you are posting on the wrong site for personal...hahahha..we will get booted...But I will be with ya...I'm soooo happy that you enjoyed the party that is a big one...A lot of stress..but sounds like you did a great job and actually got to enjoy it..And that is what is going to happen next weekend for the baby shower...You sound absolutely wonderful and I'm sooo happy for you...Your such a nice person and the children are young for such a short time to be able to enjoy it is the best...Your daughter will remember this party for a long time to come..>Congratulations on giving her a great memory...Wish we wouldve all had a lot more of those and we wouldnt have been as anxious and depressed...Take care and hope you had time to relax today after all the cleanup...Mystic
Posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 21:27:53
In reply to RE: Nemo, posted by Nemo2 on March 20, 2004, at 23:19:51
I remember reading that somewhere too. Mrs. C
Posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 21:59:30
In reply to Hey Mrs C., posted by mystic on March 21, 2004, at 17:31:23
Mystic, I am so worried about Sandy. What can we do. I am afraid to go to bed thinking about her and her children. Sometimes this board is so frustrating because you want to reach out but you can only do so much over the computer. I'm just sick over this! Are you here tonight with me. It's about 11:00 Sunday night. Mrs. C
Posted by mystic on March 21, 2004, at 22:11:32
In reply to Re: Hey Mrs C., posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 21:59:30
I just posted on the other board...but we did try to help and we have to let it go for now...I'm not sure what is going on but it is frustrating ...We are here to help and to get help and that is what we did..It can be frustrating because all we can do is post and that is about the extent of reaching out...I know that I have been corresponding through e-mails also and that is a little more help as far as being able to reach out easier...But go to bed and try to get some sleep there is nothing else we can do now and you know that...You have to get up tomorrow morning and start your week..Get some rest...Take care Mrs C....Mystic
Posted by mel_light on March 22, 2004, at 9:43:58
In reply to Re: Does it get better to Lynne » linnie, posted by LynneDa on March 19, 2004, at 11:57:16
> Hi Linnie -
> I started at 10 mg, then upped to 20 mg after 10 weeks. I've now been on 20 mg for about 11 weeks. My worst times are right before my period and that is the reason I upped. That time is now much better, I get a little out of wack but not too bad. I still have insomnia and some inorgasmia that I would like to address. I'm tired of medicating myself to sleep, but if that is my only alternative I guess that's it. I'm not ready to go off the Lex!
> Take care,
> Lynne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also have problems worse rigt before my period. I've now been on lex for 5 weeks and feel better anxiety wise but have been having horrible nightmares...Has anybody else experienced this? I don't know if it's just because I'm pms'ing right now or if this is normal...HELP???
Posted by sexylexy on March 22, 2004, at 9:57:35
In reply to Re: Does it get better/ Nightmares on lex street, posted by mel_light on March 22, 2004, at 9:43:58
Hey Linnie,
When I took zoloft for 3 weeks, I had terrible vivid nightmares. Now on lex (20mg) I have really wild vivid dreams but there are not scary as were the other ones. My doctor told me to try to really relax before going to sleep. My father is a psychologist and he gave me some tapes to listen to which are really good for relaxation. This seems to help me forget the dreams I am having and put me in a better sleep. You may want to go to like barnes and noble and pick up a good relaxation tape. Listen to it before bed and see if it helps!
Good luck, God Bless,
Lexy
Posted by want info on March 22, 2004, at 10:39:04
In reply to Re: Does it get better/ Nightmares on lex street, posted by mel_light on March 22, 2004, at 9:43:58
the pms thing i think is normal...so many ppl on this board have felt out of whack before their periods. i feel that way myself right now. im at the end of my 6th week!! EM
Posted by ednababish on March 22, 2004, at 10:51:02
In reply to Re: Does it get better/ Nightmares on lex street, posted by mel_light on March 22, 2004, at 9:43:58
My dreams are certainly very vivid--but I take trazadone for insomnia and chronic pain associated with fibromyalgia. They were also vivid while I was pregnant. Could be either the meds OR the natural hormonal surges. Believe it or not it could also be considered a good thing--remembering dreams means that you are getting adequate REM sleep, which is necessary to physical as well as emotional healing. But a few good sleep rituals and talismans are probably in order as well: twenty pages of a good book or a dose of Nick at Night, flannel jammies, warm milk, a warm and fragrant bath with lavender, chamomile, vanilla (Bath and Body Works aromatherapy line is wonderful, especially the lavender and vanilla), soothing pillow spray, t-shirt sheets or flannel sheets, low lights. Just writing that made me feel relaxed! Just remember that your bed is your haven, not your battleground. Good luck and good night.
Posted by platinumbride on March 22, 2004, at 13:08:58
In reply to For those on lex and wellbutrin, posted by sexylexy on March 19, 2004, at 21:19:20
Although lexapro was not effective for depression, I am glad that I had some left when I first went on wellbutrin, for it did help some of that anxiety I had during the initial stages of my wellbutrin use.
Still and all, I DID have to use klonopin (still do...and did even without wellbutrin in the picture) so I don't imagine it would be a bad thing to have a benzo handy just in case you need it for the adjustment period you body will go through with wellbutrin.
Lex and wellb seems to be a good bet for a lot of people, so if you decide to go with it, I hope it will be a good cocktail for you too....
Diane
Posted by want info on March 22, 2004, at 13:28:44
In reply to Re: Hey Mrs C., posted by Mrs. C on March 21, 2004, at 21:59:30
hi mrs c...i just posted to her too...it's so hard, i feel awful too. i don't know what the point of this post is other than to say i feel awful and am thinking of her (and all of us!!) too...EM
Posted by Anjul on March 22, 2004, at 19:10:40
In reply to Re: Hey Mrs C., posted by mystic on March 21, 2004, at 22:11:32
Hi everyone. I'm on 10 Lex and still can;t get much sleep (since October). My pdoc gave me Remeron to take at night (15 mg). I'm wondering what to expect and whether to take the 15 mgs or just 7.5. HAs anyone tried this combo????
thanks, Anjul
Posted by sideorder on March 23, 2004, at 8:28:09
In reply to Re: Sexual Dysfunction and Lexapro? Need Feedback, posted by sltex on March 19, 2004, at 18:21:07
sltex- thanks for the reply. I've been on lex for about 6 days now and thankfully no ED---but as you stated, it does cause the delayed ejaculation...but hey---that's not all bad and my girlfiend and I can work around it. I'm just hoping over time that it doesn't cause any decreased libido. hoping it's all worth it.
Posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 20:07:55
In reply to Re: Lexy and Kathryn, posted by KathrynLex on March 19, 2004, at 12:30:02
K~
Where are you? I miss you. Hope you have not been around because you are feeling so good. Just know I am thinking of you and miss you.
Lexy
Posted by sltex on March 23, 2004, at 21:56:44
In reply to Re: Sexual Dysfunction and Lexapro? Need Feedback, posted by sideorder on March 23, 2004, at 8:28:09
Sideorder, after 6-7 weeks on Lex, I am feeling much better and it seems to be worth the working around the sexual s.e. No problem with libido here but the delay requires some patience and seems worse when I have had any alcohol, so you might give that some consideration. Good luck and hope Lex helps you.
Posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 12:25:26
In reply to Kathrynlex, posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 20:07:55
Hey Lexy,
I've been a little out of it...that could be beacause my period is right around the coner. I see my pdoc on Thursday, so I'm hoping he can suggest something to help even out my mood around that time of the month.
How have you been? Did you go up to 20 mgs and/or add Wellbutrin? That's one of the things I plan on discussing with my pdoc tomorrow. I hope you've been doing well!
K.
Posted by mel_light on March 24, 2004, at 12:58:28
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 12:25:26
sorry to chime in on your conversation but I've been having a really hard time the past 2 days and I think it's because I'm pms'ing Is it always like this? I don't know if I need to up my lexapro or just keep taking xanax while I'm on my period???
Posted by want info on March 24, 2004, at 13:07:24
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by mel_light on March 24, 2004, at 12:58:28
me too me too!
today is the first day of my period and i feel totally spaced out and weird. im finishing 2 wks on 15mg ... blah
Posted by want info on March 24, 2004, at 13:08:52
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 12:25:26
hey k...ive said this 15 times to different people :) but today's the first day of my period and i feel totally spaced out and weird. it resembles my worst moments on lex...E
Posted by AzureBay on March 24, 2004, at 13:17:03
In reply to Sexual Dysfunction and Lexapro? Need Feedback, posted by sideorder on March 19, 2004, at 16:23:05
Well, I've taken both Lexapro and Celexa. I'll give you my honest opinion about Lexapro and sexual function. Btw, I'm male and 43. It actually does make you "last longer," which really isn't a bad thing. I would say it slightly decreases libido, but not all that much. My personal experience has been that Celexa/Lexapro are one of the few SSRIs that increase the intensity of orgasm. Again, maybe that's just me but they do seem to do something to make it more pleasurable in the end.
The KEY is your dosage. If you go above 5-10mg there is a good chance you'll have some problems. At least I did at higher doses. My personal philosophy is to take the lowest dose you can that relieves your symptoms - where you also have the least side-effects.
Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Azure
> I was just prescribed Lexapro by my doctor for general stress/anxiety reduction. I was told that the sexual side effects were minimal...primarily "ejaclatory delay" (and only happens to a small precentage).... I guess if it's "delayed", it wouldn't be that big of a deal---just so it eventually happens. Also wondering if it causes any erectile dysfunction or decreased libido. I really don't want to become sexually dysfunctional in any way. Any men out there taking Lexapro (or women who are with men taking Lexapro) that can give me the lowdown? I have a VERY healthy sex life with my girlfriend and hate to see it take a turn just because I'm taking an anti-anxiety drug. Any advice/comments or feedback would be appreciated. Also, don't even know if I'm "posting" in the right place...I'm totally new to this.
>
Posted by Mrs. C on March 24, 2004, at 14:03:06
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by mel_light on March 24, 2004, at 12:58:28
Hi Mel, Alot of us have had to increase our dosage because of the pms issue, me included. How much lex are you on? If your pms becomes intolerable (anxiety, worry, etc.) maybe talk to your doc about increasing. Ijust went up 5mgs to 15mgs and feel pretty good. Good luck, Mrs. C
Posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 16:04:02
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by mel_light on March 24, 2004, at 12:58:28
Hi Guys,
My period is right around the corner and I've felt awful...depressed and anxious. I just don't think Lexapro is effective during PMS and my period. It's a drag.
I took .5 mgs of Klonopin last night and again this morning. It seems to have helped a little bit. Maybe I'll try increasing my dose or adding Wellbutrin...something has to work. I'll discuss all these things with my pdoc tomorrow and let you know what he says.
K.
Posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 16:10:45
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex, posted by Mrs. C on March 24, 2004, at 14:03:06
Hi Mrs. C,
I'm really glad to hear you're doing well at 15 mgs. I'm debating increasing my dose or doing something...because the lex doesn't seem to work during my period or when I have PMS. How odd. (Not to mention frustrating.) I feel fine for 3 weeks out of 4, but my period hits and all my symptoms of anxiety and depression come back.
Again, I'm happy to hear you're doing well at 15 mgs. It sounded like you were having a little bit of a rough time before increasing. It's nice to see that you've found a solution.
K.
Posted by sexylexy on March 24, 2004, at 16:38:40
In reply to Re: Kathrynlex » Mrs. C, posted by KathrynLex on March 24, 2004, at 16:10:45
Ya'll
Spacey, grumpy and irritable seem to describe me around my time of the month. The lex seems to kinda go down during that time. Yuck! My cylces have gotten increasingly better as they go on. I am on month 3 and it is not nearly as bad as cycle one ( whew, I literally felt like someone was re-wiring my brain.) Good luck!! K let me know what your doc says, we will all be dying know!
God Bless,
Lexy
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