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Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
In reply to Re: going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW! » brainshiver, posted by Jiggitykid on February 8, 2005, at 22:15:55
Hi guys. First I want to thank those of you who responded. Wow, it really helps just knowing you guys have made it through this hell.
Still feeling pretty poopy today, but I'm hanging in there!
Man, I sure had some crazy dreams last night. Is that part of the withdrawal, too? And about how long did the crazy dreams persist?
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:56:23
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Marg, posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 6:47:03
Hehe.......well I'm from Liverpool but living in Hull now.
The doctor never said why he wants me off them but I reckon it's just cos I've been on the so long.
What are you studying at uni?
Marg
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:58:08
In reply to Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
Hiya!
What do you mean by "crazy"?
I suffer from sleep paralysis and since tapering of effexor they are returning. Wondering if you are experiencing anything like SP?
Marg
Posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 8:32:31
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:56:23
Hi Marg,
>What are you studying at uni?
Pharmacy.
Ed.
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 8:41:52
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Marg, posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 8:32:31
LOL good choice!
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 8:51:54
In reply to Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
Yes, the crazy dreams are a big part of the withdrawal. Frankly, I felt like I was dreaming horror movies during part of it. The dreams were so vivid that I was afraid to go to sleep. Keeping a light on at least helped with orientation when I woke up. These lasted for the two weeks and then tapered off.
> Hi guys. First I want to thank those of you who responded. Wow, it really helps just knowing you guys have made it through this hell.
>
> Still feeling pretty poopy today, but I'm hanging in there!
>
> Man, I sure had some crazy dreams last night. Is that part of the withdrawal, too? And about how long did the crazy dreams persist?
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:45:31
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:58:08
Hiya. I'm not sure what SP is.... I had a few dreams last night that I remember and all were super vivid. I woke up twice during the night and both times I fell back asleep my crazy dream continued where it left off. By crazy I mean that I remember being scared and feeling out of control. And I mean REALLY feeling it. I don't know how to best describe the experience, but I do know last night's dream experience was not like my usual dream experiences.
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:47:10
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone?? » brainshiver, posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 8:51:54
Yikes! Two weeks?! Ah well, I'll deal. I'm totally going to use your idea of keeping a light on. Thanks!
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:35:51
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:45:31
http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P2.html#pp
Take a look......does it sound familiar?
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:42:56
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » ed_uk, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 8:41:52
Just found this.............
Antidepressants: Antidepressants may be prescribed to alleviate the symptoms of hypnagogic hallucinations, cataplexy and sleep paralysis. The multicyclics and SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) are the most commonly prescribed. Side effects can include drowsiness, low libido, and low blood pressure.Would that mean I could stay on them for life?
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 12:30:17
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone?? » brainshiver, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:35:51
Hi, Marg. I remember experiences like that when I was a child (and how horribly frightened I was), but SP does not describe my experiences or dreams presently.
Posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:42:56
I'm wondering if anyone is having prolonged memory issues. I, like Jiggitykid have been off this monster drug for just over a year now. I have absolutely no short term memory. Either that or my husband is gaslighting me. ;)
He swears he told me he had to work last night. He said I was looking at him like a cow looking at a new gate. I have absolutely no recollection of him telling me that! And this is not the first incidence of me forgetting something in similar situations.
So, I'm wondering if this could be a lingering effect of the Effexor, or something else.
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:06:07
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
Are any of you getting horribly bad headaches when withdrawing? I'll go a couple hours (but no more than that) and then SLAM, holy moly does my head just ACHE.... How long can I expect these? A couple weeks, maybe? It freaks me out because I hardly ever get any headaches so my body just isn't used to dealing with them (which is why I'm pretty damn sure it's a withdrawal symptom).
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:13:51
In reply to Got headaches, too?, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:06:07
Hey there again. I normally love working out and do so about 5 days a week. However this is day 5 of my tapering experience, and I haven't worked out since I started tapering because I've been dizzy, nauseous, and my head has been killing me. I was thinking today I should try to get back at it just to keep up on my normal routine, but I am wondering if it is smarter to rest and take it easy. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated!!
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 14:14:18
In reply to Got headaches, too?, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:06:07
Yep getting really bad headaches too!
And like you I hardly ever get headaches.Don't you think coming off these things could make you so depressed you'll need to go back on them!!
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:20:50
In reply to Re: Got headaches, too? » brainshiver, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 14:14:18
Ha! Exactly! I know what you mean, but even though it's hell to get off this crap it's not so bad that I would EVER consider going back to this at full dose. Never ever ever.
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 14:39:25
In reply to Re: Got headaches, too?, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:20:50
If I continue to get SP, I'll want to go back on it for life if I can. I was on the lowest dose for ages so staying on that will be fine by me!
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:42:38
In reply to Re: Got headaches, too? » brainshiver, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 14:39:25
Yep. I hear ya. I'm hoping to get off it completely, but if I need to stay at 75mg or 37.5mg I will. I remember why I went on it in the first place, and I don't want to be there either.
Posted by jubilee on February 9, 2005, at 14:42:46
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
Anti-hystimines are good for headackes as effexor messes with that. Crazy vivid nightmares are a side affect and should pass.
The slower you come off the better . Hang in there. I had enough to last 5 months slow withdrawal and 4 months is a good time to aim for with tranc's. Now I am comming off the trancs.
I sleep like a normal person now and love it and no dreams. I am not all hyper like I have been for 4 years and this has been a major life change for me .
I am still having memory problems and yes effexor does mess with the memory and I don't see much improvment yet.
Take care. Jubilee.
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 19:17:10
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:47:10
You're welcome. I had the same experience with the dreams picking up where they left off. Weird, huh??
> Yikes! Two weeks?! Ah well, I'll deal. I'm totally going to use your idea of keeping a light on. Thanks!
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 19:20:21
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
>>>He said I was looking at him like a cow looking at a new gate.<<<
I LOVE that!! I've never heard that one. We say, "like a deer in headlights," around here. Thanks for sharing it!
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 19:21:13
In reply to Got headaches, too?, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:06:07
Yep, and for me, yep. For what it's worth, you're "normal." :-)
> Are any of you getting horribly bad headaches when withdrawing? I'll go a couple hours (but no more than that) and then SLAM, holy moly does my head just ACHE.... How long can I expect these? A couple weeks, maybe? It freaks me out because I hardly ever get any headaches so my body just isn't used to dealing with them (which is why I'm pretty damn sure it's a withdrawal symptom).
Posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 19:33:42
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » jbc, posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 19:20:21
Honey, I have a million of 'em! Between my dad...who grew up on a farm in Northeastern Oklahoma and has said things like that my whole life...and my father-in-law, who grew up in a tiny town in Central Oklahoma...I could write a book! That humor, along with my faith & family is all that kept me going through all the trials of withdrawls.
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 20:37:45
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Jiggitykid, posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 19:33:42
You should write a book (or as my in-laws say, "Y'orta write one.")! My dad and I often discuss the phrases that are disappearing from the language. I'm in the heart of the South, and there are some wonderful phrases, words and interesting pronunciations that are going away. "Homogenization of the language," I call it.
> Honey, I have a million of 'em! Between my dad...who grew up on a farm in Northeastern Oklahoma and has said things like that my whole life...and my father-in-law, who grew up in a tiny town in Central Oklahoma...I could write a book! That humor, along with my faith & family is all that kept me going through all the trials of withdrawls.
Posted by Damos on February 10, 2005, at 0:02:12
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » jbc, posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 20:37:45
G'day! Made the mistake yesterday of thinking that I didn't feel too bad and so went to work. What I didn't realise was that Day 3 AE (After Efexor) was going to be brouht to me by Heinz 57 Varieties of Withdrawal Symptoms.
I reckon based on all our experiences, we should get Alice Cooper to be our patron, I'm sure he was the first to say "Welcome to my nightmare". Sorry to say it Brainshiver, but welcome to ours.
Hey Jiggitykid, glad you liked the analogy. What can I say other than Ouch! Guess that's the meaning of that old chestnut "look before you leap." - sorry, couldn't resist =0). BTW it's funny you mentioned dreams that just pick up from where they left off as I've been having they for a couple of weeks now. For the record I think you're incredibly brave and should be really proud of yourself!
Oh yeah, down here we say "like a rabbit in the headlights" or "like a stunned mullet". We'e also noticing the loss of the Aussie idiom.
You guys won't believe it but I've just been reading a UN document that talks about how they are now using research into depression etc as the basis for weapons research. Somehow I think a bullet would be preferred by the majority of the population. Marg, just a note for what it's worth that Efexor-XR is an SNRI Serotonin Noradrenaline Reuptake Inhibitor not an SSRI. The UN doc talks about the way these chemicals work and also talks about Narcolepsy and SP. Funny how it arrived today. If I keep at you will you go to a sleep disorder clinic - please???
Brainshiver, yeh love my exercise too and know that not geting enough is a factor in my depression, but have accepted that I'll need to miss a few days/weeks until the balance returns. And yes, yes and yes to the new symptoms you've been experiencing. At times yesterday it felt like someone had pulled by brain out and dropped in about 5kgs (10 pounds) of electric jellyfish. Any movement caused them to either bang together or into my skull and cause a force 10 brain and body zapp with accompanying pain. What's that new Maccas slogan....oh yeah "lovin' it."
Take care.
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