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Posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 9:50:39
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update, posted by dj on October 6, 1999, at 23:23:00
> > . If anyone has any special request
> How about a live hook-up! ;^)Sorry, my media department isn't up to snuff on this, but maybe UChicago is.
Dr. Bob -- could you see if you could get your hands on the following:
1) A digital videocam with a Firewire output,
2) One of the most recent PowerBooks ... I don't know if they have Firewire built-in or if you'd need a PC card for that.
3) A cellar modem.If I think of anything else, I'll just post it here. Thanx. Bob
Posted by Noa on October 7, 1999, at 14:24:43
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update, posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 9:50:39
Ok, now you are sounding a bit hypomanic, although this is coming from a technoboob, so maybe it isn't all that extravagant. It would be cool for us non New Yorkers.
Posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 19:08:21
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Noa on October 7, 1999, at 14:24:43
> Ok, now you are sounding a bit hypomanic...
Hey, gimme a gigafloppin' PSC and a 22" flat panel and I'll show you hypomanic!
Bob
(since dj will ask anyway: PSC = Personal SuperComputer. Sorry, but all y'all Wintel folk don't have one of them ... Intel's still working on the radiation suit you'd need to wear for one of their chips that could (theoretically) run that fast =^P)
Posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 22:15:11
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 19:08:21
http://idt.net/~raboyle/babble/babblefest.html
Posted by Dee on October 7, 1999, at 22:57:40
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 19:08:21
live from NY, it is Tuesday night!
well, maybe a chatroom. some of us are still stuck with 28,800 transmission.
Posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 23:18:33
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Dee on October 7, 1999, at 22:57:40
> live from NY, it is Tuesday night!
> well, maybe a chatroom. some of us are still stuck with 28,800 transmission.You and me both ... blech! But Bell Atlantic is supposed to have DSL in my neighborhood this month!
We could always go the low-tech route -- I'll bring my Polaroid....
Bob
Posted by Noa on October 8, 1999, at 0:46:36
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Bob on October 7, 1999, at 23:18:33
14,000 here. But it goes with my 13 inch tv that you have to smack a few times to get the color to work. Poloroid would be great. Then, if you want you could post it.
Posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 9:15:11
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Noa on October 8, 1999, at 0:46:36
> 14,000 here. But it goes with my 13 inch tv ...
Don't tell me ... WebTV? No wonder you're depressed!
Aside to those going to Babblefest NYC:
If I do remember my Polaroid, there will be no candids and no pictures taken without the permission of those posing. If you want anonymity, you've got it. Since I imagine any pictures that might get taken we be passed around, everyone will have a chance to nix any pix -- we'll throw them out on the spot. Fair enough?See you Tuesday,
Bob
Posted by Deborah R. on October 8, 1999, at 10:02:14
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 9:15:11
> > 14,000 here. But it goes with my 13 inch tv ...
>
> Don't tell me ... WebTV? No wonder you're depressed!
>
> Aside to those going to Babblefest NYC:
> If I do remember my Polaroid, there will be no candids and no pictures taken without the permission of those posing. If you want anonymity, you've got it. Since I imagine any pictures that might get taken we be passed around, everyone will have a chance to nix any pix -- we'll throw them out on the spot. Fair enough?
>
> See you Tuesday,
> BobHi Bob - is there a live hook-up? I feel silly asking this as I really don't understand all the computer lingo/jokes. Am definately a 'green' computer user so please explain to this drongo.
Thanks, have fun on Tuesday. Will have to figure out the time difference if there is a live thingo happening. Bye for nowDeb.
Posted by Racer on October 8, 1999, at 10:11:08
In reply to I'm confused re: live hook-up?, posted by Deborah R. on October 8, 1999, at 10:02:14
Is that what you get from ice-fishing?
(Bob, have y'all ever tried to make a polaroid viable for the web? You think you're depressed now?)
Posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 11:56:23
In reply to I'm confused re: live hook-up?, posted by Deborah R. on October 8, 1999, at 10:02:14
> Hi Bob - is there a live hook-up?
Don't I wish. No, that would require a combination of hardware and net access that this poor, extended support group can manage, I'm afraid. But I'll make all the non-NYC folks a deal ... actually, its more like a public radio fundraising campaign challenge grant: I will bring various artistic media (paper, crayons, watercolors, maybe even some finger paint) and again, biding by my non-disclosure conditions stated in a post above, I will take any group-approved renditions of the live event (kinda like those courtroom artists) and post it on my web site for all to see. Let's see if there is a relationship between creativity and depression, folks!
Hey! It's Soho! Aren't we supposed to be doing artsy things anyway?
Bob
Posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 12:08:37
In reply to POLAROIDS?!?!?!?, posted by Racer on October 8, 1999, at 10:11:08
> (Bob, have y'all ever tried to make a polaroid viable for the web? You think you're depressed now?)
Yes, in fact -- it's a standard practice in my web design class. Haven't posted my current classes, but you can take a gander at my previous term's class (and if you want to see some HIDEOUS code, view the source -- I did it in PageMill 3 as an example of the butchery WYSIWIG Editors can do). http://idt.net/~raboyle/ns/3245map.html. Then there's the babblefest announcement, featuring a truly hideous polaroid of me taking my own photo at http://idt.net/~raboyle/babble/babblefest.html.
The great thing about Polaroids is that they are the Great Equalizer. EVERYONE looks hideous on Polaroid film. It also gives the viewer the effect that they may have actually been there -- they always have that, oh, 0.15 BAL, glased-over look to them, making you wonder just how much you may have had to drink and why is this party missing from your memory?
Oh, Polaroids also make GREAT Christmas tree decorations. I kid you not.
Bob
Posted by Noa on October 8, 1999, at 17:53:05
In reply to POLAROIDS!, posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 12:08:37
Racer-LOL (really loud)
Bob-LOL but no, not web tv, just an "ancient" 3 yr old computer with 100mh speed and 14000 modem..it does go with the other low tech items in my apt. like the tv with the bent antenna that you have to whack a few times to get the picture to come up and the color to work....still, the color is off a bit...I was flipping channels once and noticed that Barney was Blue. Don't want to buy another tv. BTW, speaking of whacking the tv, it reminds me of an old (really old) Woody Allen nightclub routine about mechanical objects.
Posted by Deborah R. on October 8, 1999, at 19:37:18
In reply to POLAROIDS!, posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 12:08:37
> The great thing about Polaroids is that they are the Great Equalizer. EVERYONE looks hideous on Polaroid film.Think we can add passport photos in the hideous category too....have never seen a good one, for goodness sake why do they bother having photo i.d. in passports when they never look like the person. Perhaps to give us all a laugh - or in my passport's case a shock!
Posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 22:05:36
In reply to Re: POLAROIDS!, posted by Deborah R. on October 8, 1999, at 19:37:18
> Think we can add passport photos in the hideous category too....
Okay, folks, out with them DRIVER'S LICENSES!!!
Actually, I tested out this theory once. I was living out of doors all summer as a children's camp counselor, and I had to get my license renewed. Well, I decided to go in first thing in the AM, no shower, no comb, no shave (well, that was a given back then), rumpled clothes ....
Best damn driver's license photo I ever took. Still have it, fifteen years later, as proof.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 10, 1999, at 0:37:45
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob World Tour Update-live hook up, posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 9:15:11
> Aside to those going to Babblefest NYC:
> If I do remember my Polaroid, there will be no candids and no pictures taken without the permission of those posing. If you want anonymity, you've got it.The above is very considerate, and I appreciate it.
One aspect of meeting in person is not being as anonymous anymore. I wonder how those considering coming feel about that...
Bob
Posted by Bob on October 10, 1999, at 1:26:48
In reply to Re: anonymity, posted by Dr. Bob on October 10, 1999, at 0:37:45
> The above is very considerate, and I appreciate it.
APA Ethical Standards for non-disclosure drilled into me. I'm just glad no one will make me fill out a Human Subjects form... ;^)
> One aspect of meeting in person is not being as anonymous anymore. I wonder how those considering coming feel about that...
I think I've said, and maybe others have as well, how much I've learned from my gay friends about this -- it's okay to be "out" with each other ... better than okay; it's uplifting, it's empowering, it's dignifying. Talking (and listening) on this boards certainly breaks the ice as well. All the same, some of us don't want to be "out" to anyone else, and we all have to respect that.
Cheers,
ABD Bob
Posted by Noa on October 10, 1999, at 9:50:00
In reply to Re: anonymity ... just guessing, posted by Bob on October 10, 1999, at 1:26:48
Not in NY, so not able to attend, but even so have wondered if I would if I could. Kinda scary to emerge from behind the screen, so to speak. Very interested in NY Babblefesters feedback afterward.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 11, 1999, at 22:02:29
In reply to Re: anonymity, posted by Dr. Bob on October 10, 1999, at 0:37:45
Hi, everyone,
Hope to see some of you tomorrow!
Bob
Posted by Racer on October 12, 1999, at 1:47:30
In reply to The Gallery of the Hideous, posted by Bob on October 8, 1999, at 22:05:36
I had to have a new picture taken for my license, and the woman behind the camera stopped me on the way out the door. The picture was so bad, she wouldn't put it on the license! She made me do it again, so that she could try to make it prettier!
One of the benefits of a small town...
A friend of mine had a picture that was so good that she hated it. Said it put too much pressure on her to live up to it every day! Doncha wish you had that problem?
Have a great time tomorrow. Wish I could be there.
Posted by dj on October 13, 1999, at 0:17:32
In reply to Re: see you tomorrow, posted by Dr. Bob on October 11, 1999, at 22:02:29
So how was it & where are the Polaroids &/or Bob the Cat's scribbles --- ACK!!! %^/
Posted by Bob on October 13, 1999, at 12:48:10
In reply to Re: see you tomorrow, posted by dj on October 13, 1999, at 0:17:32
And a grand time was had by all. Dr. Bob, Anita, and I. We did have a great time sitting and chatting f2f, but we're not going to let all you NYC folk get a peek at us while hiding behind your monitors! We'll try it again, sans Dr. B, and see what happens then.
Good thing we didn't go through the hassle & expense of a live feed .....
Bob
Posted by CD on October 14, 1999, at 1:29:24
In reply to Re: see you tomorrow -- no you won't! sorry, posted by Bob on October 13, 1999, at 12:48:10
Bob (not the doctor), you sound angry. Sorry to be a no show but somewhere in the talk of guests and cameras and live hook-ups, the anxiety began to overwhelm. My inability to appear had little to do with needing to hide behind my moniter. It had more to do with the pressure that seemed to build around the event. I am not crazy about subways, entering resturaunts by myself, cameras and even jokes about live feeds. I was sorry not to have the chance to meet you. Maybe in a more relaxed setting?Dr. Bob, I wish that I had been able to meet you on Tuesday. I have a bit to say both positive and negative in regards to the internet experience and depression. I value and admire your commitment to the board and hope tp have a chance to communicate with you in the future.Sincerely,CD
Posted by Bob on October 14, 1999, at 6:38:11
In reply to To Dr. Bob and Bob, posted by CD on October 14, 1999, at 1:29:24
That's one of the problems with electronic communication -- it's really easy not to get your message across ... I was just teasing.
After the small turnout, I began to suspect exactly the sorts of things you mentioned. A friend of mine has this theory that "middle" children grow up to be cruise directors, and as the middle child of the youngest cluster of three in my family, I tend to get carried away with the cruise director syndrome.
So, let me say instead to you, CD, and anyone else who shied away that I am sorry you couldn't make it, for whatever reason. Like I said, there's always the chance to have another face-to-face in the future in people are interested -- it's nice to be able to meet the people behind the posts, and there is so much more we can share meeting f2f than through this medium.
My apologies,
Bob
Posted by dj on October 17, 1999, at 11:37:18
In reply to To Dr. Bob and Bob, posted by CD on October 14, 1999, at 1:29:24
So, CD, what's preventing you from commenting here aobut the internet experience & depression?
And Cruise Director, Bob, you never did tell us the nature of your tour discussions. Hoarding insights for the next tour??? ; ^8
>Dr. Bob, I wish that I had been able to meet you on Tuesday. I have a bit to say both positive and negative in regards to the internet experience and depression. I value and admire your commitment to the board and hope tp have a chance to communicate with you in the future.Sincerely,CD
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