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Posted by Angela5 on June 25, 2000, at 12:37:45
I was told to take 100 mg/day for 3 days, then increase to 100 mg 2x day. Yesterday was my first day with both doses.
I actually noticed a bit of increased sweating earlier, but thought it might be my imagination. Yesterday late afternoon/evening, however, was really bad, as well as a bit of night sweats.
Has anyone experienced increased sweating on Wellbutrin, and did it go away?
(I am also very thirsty.)
Thanks,
Angela
Posted by Greg on June 26, 2000, at 7:47:09
In reply to Wellbutrin and sweating, anyone?, posted by Angela5 on June 25, 2000, at 12:37:45
Angela,
I have had increased sweating since starting the WB. I have always sweated during exercise, but it is noticably worse since starting the med. Even minimal exercision causes me to sweat. I also had night sweats for awhile but since I've been sleeping more peacefully, those have pretty much gone away. I've read that sweating is a side effect of WB. It's gotten a little better since adding Prozac to the mix. I guess the important thing is that it helps with your depression. Sometimes you just have to take the bad with the good...
Hope this helps.
Greg
Posted by shar on June 26, 2000, at 20:59:33
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin and sweating, anyone?, posted by Greg on June 26, 2000, at 7:47:09
Oh, noooo!! In the last archive there was a question about Effexor and sweat. Now Wellbutrin and sweat.
I'm on BOTH and sweat up a storm plus I live in Texas, plus I hope to have some job interviews sometime soon. I have this image of sweat running down my neck, while I tell them about my experience in writing and editing. ARRGGGGHHHH!
Does Klonopin cause extra sweating too? I'm on that as well.
Whew! Oh--and let's not forget the Pause!
S
Posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
In reply to Wellbutrin and sweating, anyone? Oh nooooooo..., posted by shar on June 26, 2000, at 20:59:33
> I'm on BOTH and sweat up a storm plus I live in Texas, plus I hope to have some job interviews sometime soon. I have this image of sweat running down my neck, while I tell them about my experience in writing and editing. ARRGGGGHHHH!
>
Soaking in Sweat?
I sweat too much! If my armpits were waterfalls they would rival Iguazu in Argentina. Is there anything I can do with my diet, or are there supplements that I can take to reduce the constant flow of sweat? I avoid wearing dark business shirts and I cringe when I have to remove my jacket. My sweat spots in my shirts on certain days can extend down to my elbows. Doctors have told me I have active glands and I have to live with it. I find coffee aggravates it. Is this a symptom of hypertension or being overweight? It has worsened over the past five years.
-- Anonymous
(Published 9/11/97) The technical term for your condition is hyperhidrosis, and it is indeed the result of especially active glands. Sweating is the way your body releases excess heat. But some people perspire more than others.Excessive sweating isn't necessarily a symptom of hypertension, but it can be associated with being overweight because excess weight means you're exerting yourself more for routine activities like walking. Heavy perspiration also can be caused by certain medications. Sometimes it can be a symptom of an underlying systemic disorder, such as hyperthyroidism.
See if you can pinpoint just when you sweat the most. Is it after physical exertion, or when you're exposed to high temperatures? Or is it a response to stressful situations, such as business meetings or a particularly taxing schedule? If it's the latter, work on training your body to react less intensely to the situation.
I would definitely avoid coffee, tea and other stimulants. They increase the activity of apocrine sweat glands -- special glands in hairy parts of the body that produce strong-smelling, musky secretions. These drugs arouse your body's fight-or-flight response, increasing any anxiety you may already have. Do drink lots of water, because you're going to need to replenish the fluid you've lost.
Avoid environmental stimuli that can trigger your sympathetic nervous system into an alarm response -- such as loud music, lots of interruptions at work (try closing the door) or even annoying people who get on your nerves (we all know some of those!). Practice my breathing exercise, especially when you feel yourself getting tense. You may also want to try meditation. And be sure to keep up your exercise. You're lucky -- sweat is sort of a badge of honor among the fitness crowd because people in good shape tend to sweat more. Their bodies have been trained to cool themselves efficiently.
If you think stress may be part of the problem, biofeedback is an excellent way to learn how to relax your sympathetic nervous system and lower tension in your body. I also would try hypnosis or go to a Chinese medical practitioner to see if they can help.
You also may be losing quite a bit of zinc with your sweat -- as much as 3 mg a day. Zinc is important for protein and DNA synthesis, blood stability and brain and immune function. You may want to take 30 milligrams of zinc a day to compensate.
For more and perhaps something more specific to AD reactions:
http://www.pathfinder.com/drweil/BTW, what sort or writing and editing do you do?
Posted by Janice on June 26, 2000, at 23:50:34
In reply to Andrew Weil on sweating..., posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
shar, I was so surprised to read that you are a writer. You always seem to say what you want to in under 3 lines. I guess I expect writers to be verbose -- your sentences are more tightly coiled. Janice
Posted by Janice on June 26, 2000, at 23:56:10
In reply to Andrew Weil on sweating..., posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
dj your interests don't seem to end, nor do your information gathering capabilities!
do you know anything about not sweating. I don't sweat (well I did on Effexor) but other than this I don't sweat. I run alot, and I get hot, but I don't sweat...sometimes I feel like I am about to break out into goosebumps.
Know anything about this dj?
Janice
Posted by dj on June 27, 2000, at 8:01:05
In reply to Re: Andrew Weil / dj / not sweating, posted by Janice on June 26, 2000, at 23:56:10
> dj your interests don't seem to end, nor do your information gathering capabilities!
>
> do you know anything about not sweating. I don't sweat (well I did on Effexor) but other than this I don't sweat. I run alot, and I get hot, but I don't sweat...sometimes I feel like I am about to break out into goosebumps.
>
> Know anything about this dj?Interesting, Janice. Other than the expression that: "Horses sweat, men perspire and women glow" (which I'm not certain the origin of) I've read little about your affliction. I don't know if the quoted saying refers to a general fact or a fanciful thought of someones. I imagine woman have an equal number of sweat glands to men and sweat equally, generally, though historically men would be the ones out working in the fields and sweating there while the women would glow (and sweat) in the kitchen.
I did a quick search for no sweat on Dr. Weil's site and came up with nothing. However if there was a particular name for this, it might come up under that...so, sorry no insights on that front. You might check his site under heatstroke though, as I imagine that if you overheated too much, that might be a danger...
I receive weekly e-mails from Dr. Weil's site (many of which I don't pay much attention to)that outline the questions of the week he is addressing. I was directed toward his writings by the referring Dr. at the Vancouver General Hospital affiliated Tzu Chi Institute for Complimentary and Alternative Medicine. Dr. Weil's runs an educational facility on the same in Arizona and has written some interesting books on health and healing. His core belief is that the body has tremendous healing powers and the role of the physician is to help patients tap into them.
So, having remembered reading a sweating reference there (as I sweat a fair amount, and even more when I was on ADs) at one time it sprang to mind and I happened to receive my weekly e-mail from him at the moment I was contemplating Shar's post.
I also have pretty good research skills and lots of info. at my fingertips, both on-line and off, and am often attempting to see how it all fits together sytematically. : )A few years back I did 54 hours worth of testing on interest, aptitude, academic abilitiy, etc. I scored in the 90th percentile on various fronts and was encouraged to pursue post-grad. studies, which I've yet to do...but may. In the post-testing discussion the person explaining the results to me indicated that I had the ability to synthesize a lot of info. and make a lot of creative connections as do scientists like Dr. Weil and Oliver Sacks. However my mind/body gets a bit too clouded and overloaded when working through some of this info. sometimes - part of my process I guess...
Both of the counsellors I conferred with last year encouraged me to pursue the counselling studies at the Haven and when having coffee with one of them, recently, he noted that a mediation process I'm working on could be a Master's level thesis, so who knows what lies ahead when the clouds part...and the sun shines, as it is generally doing on this coast, these days. ; )
Posted by danf on June 27, 2000, at 11:10:37
In reply to Andrew Weil on sweating..., posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
not to be a pessimist dj, but most of us have very poor luck in modifying autonomic behavior by the methods listed by A Weil.
One of the hallmarks of anxiety /depression is loss of volitional control of autonomic body functions ( anyone remember panic attacks ? )
I doubt that anyone here on the board will get very far with this technique because of this loss.
One suggestion is to consider a beta blocker such as Inderal, Tenormin or pindolol.
All 3 of these have a side effect of decreased sweating. They also have the PRIMARY benefit of blocking anxiety manifestations such as jitters, tremor, BP & HR spikes, & some ssri med induced muscle twitches. Main unwanted side effect is slowing of heart rate at higher doses.
I live in Florida & it is hot & humid here. Last summer I was on zoloft & sweated like a pig & was miserable when outside ( heat intolerance ).
I have been on Inderal for several wks now & the sweating is much less. Also the heat intolerance is much better & doing things outside is comfortable & not miserable ( temps same as last yr )
Something to consider !
comments ? discussion ?
Posted by Phil on June 27, 2000, at 18:47:48
In reply to Andrew Weil on sweating..., posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
shar..Haven't read the others replies but I had this problem several years ago. I think, know, I was under severe stress but it was impossible to control.
When I started on AD's, Amitriptyline at the time,
no more problem.
This same period of my life was also complicated by very loud growling stomach...esp. in quiet meetings. AD's put that to a stop also.
And hey, I live in Texas...know what you mean.Hope this helps
Posted by shar on June 27, 2000, at 20:55:10
In reply to Andrew Weil on sweating..., posted by dj on June 26, 2000, at 23:04:45
I do all kinds of writing. For the more fun stuff, for a small circle of friends, I will write their advertising materials and brochures, or critique their writing. I will also help them tighten up their information gathering and demographic data. (My friends don't mind that I sweat a lot.)
Plus I write the fun and funny poem or two. This year, I closed a conference with a poem I wrote that was decidedly tongue-in-cheek. People were quite amazed that I could make words rhyme. (rhyming dictionary, anyone?)
I mainly write about research, methodology, lit review, research results, analysis and interpretation, ad nauseum., program evaluation, writing, social science, finishing dissertations (I did that for a class I taught), white papers for work, briefing materials, training materials, etc. I will usually end up being the office editor wherever I go; I always warn people that I'm vicious, but they keep coming.
Way back when I was in grad school I was co-author on some journal articles, and of course there is always the good old thesis and then dissertation!
Who was it that said "Writing is easy. You just sit down and open a vein..." ?
I would like to find a dictionary of adjectives. I hate the current passion of turning nouns into verbs by adding -ize, and the move toward content-free language.
How about you?
Shar
Posted by Greg on June 27, 2000, at 21:51:53
In reply to Sweating and writing... » dj, posted by shar on June 27, 2000, at 20:55:10
Hey Shar,
Are you a Technical Writer? Wanna move to the beautiful (if you don't mind the occasional traffic jam from hell) Silicon Valley? I have JUST the job for you, and I don't mind if you sweat either.
Hope you're well,
Greg> I do all kinds of writing. For the more fun stuff, for a small circle of friends, I will write their advertising materials and brochures, or critique their writing. I will also help them tighten up their information gathering and demographic data. (My friends don't mind that I sweat a lot.)
>
> Plus I write the fun and funny poem or two. This year, I closed a conference with a poem I wrote that was decidedly tongue-in-cheek. People were quite amazed that I could make words rhyme. (rhyming dictionary, anyone?)
>
> I mainly write about research, methodology, lit review, research results, analysis and interpretation, ad nauseum., program evaluation, writing, social science, finishing dissertations (I did that for a class I taught), white papers for work, briefing materials, training materials, etc. I will usually end up being the office editor wherever I go; I always warn people that I'm vicious, but they keep coming.
>
> Way back when I was in grad school I was co-author on some journal articles, and of course there is always the good old thesis and then dissertation!
>
> Who was it that said "Writing is easy. You just sit down and open a vein..." ?
>
> I would like to find a dictionary of adjectives. I hate the current passion of turning nouns into verbs by adding -ize, and the move toward content-free language.
>
> How about you?
>
> Shar
Posted by Janice on June 27, 2000, at 23:46:57
In reply to Re: Andrew Weil / dj / not sweating, posted by dj on June 27, 2000, at 8:01:05
hi dj, no I shouldn't be glowing, my running is very serious. Maybe it's the climate here. It never gets very hot. Thinking a little more about it, I used to sweat back east in all that heat.
And yes, you should do something about your information gathering ability! counselling studies at the Haven. would this be like a depression counsellor or something? anyway, it sounds like you're keeping busy.
I think I'm on the wrong thread talking about the wrong stuff, Janice
Posted by dj on June 28, 2000, at 2:42:05
In reply to Sweating and writing... » dj, posted by shar on June 27, 2000, at 20:55:10
> Who was it that said "Writing is easy. You just sit down and open a vein..." ?
>Sounds like Dorothy Parker who wrote some great though often bitter and vitrolic poetry and prose. One bio. on her was entitled: "What Fresh Hell is This". A literate alchoholic (like many writers of the past and proabably the present too) who was probably using that to partially mask her anxieties and depressions which certainly come through in some of her poems.
> How about you?I've a degree in PR aka strategic communications which involved learning to write and communicate in different styles and for different media. Occasionaly get paid for some but other than e-mail and a mediation I am working on don't do a lot these days...
Probably write a book or so, one of these days. I've done so aleady in the amount of e-mail and e-commentry I've posted, here and there...just need to package it all themetically, compellingly and coherently, some day...
For now though, sleep...
Sayonara..
dj
Posted by shar on June 28, 2000, at 17:42:33
In reply to shar, posted by Janice on June 26, 2000, at 23:50:34
I'm not sure if I'm really a writer or not. I do write, though.
I thank you for your comment. My tightly coiled sentences must reflect the rest of me which is definitely tightly coiled!
Shar
> shar, I was so surprised to read that you are a writer. You always seem to say what you want to in under 3 lines. I guess I expect writers to be verbose -- your sentences are more tightly coiled. Janice
Posted by shar on June 28, 2000, at 18:01:36
In reply to Re: Sweating and writing... » shar, posted by Greg on June 27, 2000, at 21:51:53
Greg,
LOL!
That's the best offer I've had yet, esp. the part about it being ok to sweat!
I live in the new version of Silicon Valley, but am not "new school" enough for the technical writers they want here in Silicon Hills. Too stuck back in the olden days when we did more than push a button to get results (and thus knew what our results meant...).
But, I appreciate the ego boost!
Shar
> Hey Shar,
>
> Are you a Technical Writer? Wanna move to the beautiful (if you don't mind the occasional traffic jam from hell) Silicon Valley? I have JUST the job for you, and I don't mind if you sweat either.
>
> Hope you're well,
> Greg
>
> > I do all kinds of writing. For the more fun stuff, for a small circle of friends, I will write their advertising materials and brochures, or critique their writing. I will also help them tighten up their information gathering and demographic data. (My friends don't mind that I sweat a lot.)
> >
> > Plus I write the fun and funny poem or two. This year, I closed a conference with a poem I wrote that was decidedly tongue-in-cheek. People were quite amazed that I could make words rhyme. (rhyming dictionary, anyone?)
> >
> > I mainly write about research, methodology, lit review, research results, analysis and interpretation, ad nauseum., program evaluation, writing, social science, finishing dissertations (I did that for a class I taught), white papers for work, briefing materials, training materials, etc. I will usually end up being the office editor wherever I go; I always warn people that I'm vicious, but they keep coming.
> >
> > Way back when I was in grad school I was co-author on some journal articles, and of course there is always the good old thesis and then dissertation!
> >
> > Who was it that said "Writing is easy. You just sit down and open a vein..." ?
> >
> > I would like to find a dictionary of adjectives. I hate the current passion of turning nouns into verbs by adding -ize, and the move toward content-free language.
> >
> > How about you?
> >
> > Shar
Posted by slowdive on June 28, 2000, at 21:33:05
In reply to Re: Sweating and writing... » Greg, posted by shar on June 28, 2000, at 18:01:36
I've just come off Paxil for two reasons,
1) the weight gain which made my self esteem drop even more.. and
2) the horrible sweating
Has anyone here ever been on Paxil and now on Wellbutrin? Is there a significant change in sweating? My doctor said I would sweat less, and I'm hoping he's right..slowdive
Posted by dj on June 29, 2000, at 2:37:33
In reply to Re: shar » Janice , posted by shar on June 28, 2000, at 17:42:33
As Mark Twain (aka Samuel Clemens) once wrote in a note to a friend: "If I had more time I'd send you a postcard."
Churchill or Shaw once wrote in a query about his book to his publisher: "?" to which the publisher responded: "!"
Good communications is just that. And often brief. Like Hemingway.
Posted by dj on June 29, 2000, at 2:42:30
In reply to Sweating. Paxil, and Wellbutrin, posted by slowdive on June 28, 2000, at 21:33:05
> Has anyone here ever been on Paxil and now on Wellbutrin? Is there a significant change in sweating? My doctor said I would sweat less, and I'm hoping he's right..
>I've been on both and thankfully am now not on either or any other AD and if all is self-managed well, forever...
I think I sweated more on Paxil, however it has been awhile and each of us respond in our own unique ways to any specific med. and mix...as our metabolisms are each and everyone unique and the pills are not.
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