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Posted by Kerry on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:33
I found an ad in the paper about this study at a local (well-established) hospital. I'm completely off the Wellbutrin--was on 450 mgs since Jan.--and I've tried just about every SSRI. My next move was going to be to approach my pdoc about Amisulpride or Adrafinal (and get the prescriptions overseas). My pdoc appt. isn't until late July. (suffer from depression/dysthymia, ADD, and social anxiety)
I'd like some feedback from those of you who are experienced w/ cognitive therapy. Does it work? Seems so laborious. I'm willing to do the work--I'm just skeptical.
Kerry
Posted by Kath on July 12, 2000, at 16:15:40
In reply to Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity, posted by Kerry on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:33
Hi Kerry - I'm pretty sure Rockets once mentioned cognitive therapy in a post & I'm pretty sure it was mentioned by someone else also. I don't think I'm sure exactly what it is, but I think someone wrote a very detailed post about it. If nothing comes up from this post, I'd try another.
Hugs, Kath
> I found an ad in the paper about this study at a local (well-established) hospital. I'm completely off the Wellbutrin--was on 450 mgs since Jan.--and I've tried just about every SSRI. My next move was going to be to approach my pdoc about Amisulpride or Adrafinal (and get the prescriptions overseas). My pdoc appt. isn't until late July. (suffer from depression/dysthymia, ADD, and social anxiety)
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> I'd like some feedback from those of you who are experienced w/ cognitive therapy. Does it work? Seems so laborious. I'm willing to do the work--I'm just skeptical.
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> Kerry
Posted by dj on July 12, 2000, at 17:54:31
In reply to Re: Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity » Kerry, posted by Kath on July 12, 2000, at 16:15:40
Cognitive therapy can help, though backposts will show people arguing about its value.
I believe it's value is in carefully evaluating your thoughts and the roots of your depression, which is often linked to stress and anxiety and dealing with the patterns behind those. CT by itself I don't believe is sufficient, with or without ADs. It's grapping with the root issues, with good guidance from someone you trust, and learning to deeply trust yourself and the world and have faith in both, that is the core source of release from dis-ease or at least the easing of that I believe.
Sante!
dj
Posted by Kath on July 12, 2000, at 21:01:20
In reply to Re: Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity, posted by dj on July 12, 2000, at 17:54:31
Hi All - I'll wave my banner - just thought of it. I go to CoDependents Anonymous (a 12-step program). I've found it is helping me alot to feel loved, loveable & to realize my distorted thinking & certain patterns of thought & actions that don't serve me well - they might have at some point in life but no longer do. Melody Beatty (sp) has written alot about it. I'm sure libraries would have her books. Just a thought.
Kath
Posted by SLS on July 12, 2000, at 21:20:52
In reply to Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity, posted by Kerry on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:33
> I'd like some feedback from those of you who are experienced w/ cognitive therapy. Does it work? Seems so laborious. I'm willing to do the work--I'm just skeptical.
Dear Kerry,I don't think it is an either/or issue.
I think cognitive therapy can reduce the "depressive load" placed upon the central nervous system, allowing someone to be more responsive to drugs and less likely to relapse.
No guarantees.
- Scott
Posted by ksvt on July 16, 2000, at 20:47:46
In reply to Re: Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity, posted by SLS on July 12, 2000, at 21:20:52
> > I'd like some feedback from those of you who are experienced w/ cognitive therapy. Does it work? Seems so laborious. I'm willing to do the work--I'm just skeptical.
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> Dear Kerry,
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> I don't think it is an either/or issue.
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> I think cognitive therapy can reduce the "depressive load" placed upon the central nervous system, allowing someone to be more responsive to drugs and less likely to relapse.
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> No guarantees.
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> - ScottKerry - I agree with Scott. I don't think cognitive therapy is intended necessarily to replace ADs. I've had some experience with it. I found it particularly helpful in reducing the anxiety I would feel over something going wrong. It taught me how to gain some perspective and objectivity and I don't think I globalize problems quite so readily. What it doesn't do (or at least didn't for me) is help you deal with far more subjective and generalized feelings like self loathing. It's tough to reason your way out of those.
Posted by SickGuy on July 17, 2000, at 2:12:01
In reply to Drug-Free Cognitive Therapy Opportunity, posted by Kerry on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:33
You can read about it in a book called "Feeling
Good, The New Mood Therapy", by Dr. David Burns.
You may not need a therapist if you read this
book, depending on how disciplined you are.It's a very useful form of self discipline --
eliminating self destructive thought patterns.I don't think it can replace drugs for severe
depression, but it is certainly good for cleaning up
(after the drugs do their job) the mess of sloppy
negative thinking that a big bout of depression
encourages.> I found an ad in the paper about this study at a local (well-established) hospital. I'm completely off the Wellbutrin--was on 450 mgs since Jan.--and I've tried just about every SSRI. My next move was going to be to approach my pdoc about Amisulpride or Adrafinal (and get the prescriptions overseas). My pdoc appt. isn't until late July. (suffer from depression/dysthymia, ADD, and social anxiety)
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> I'd like some feedback from those of you who are experienced w/ cognitive therapy. Does it work? Seems so laborious. I'm willing to do the work--I'm just skeptical.
>
> Kerry
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