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Posted by Phil on July 29, 2000, at 15:01:05
Just a great line from a Steely Dan song.
Haven't been around Babble much these days..have had some low lows. Struggling..and not that talkative..
Phil
Posted by Cam W. on July 29, 2000, at 15:53:56
In reply to Dreary architecture of your soul.., posted by Phil on July 29, 2000, at 15:01:05
Hey Phil - We'll agree to let you have the no talking part, but you can still type without talking. Good to hear from you. - Cam
Posted by Janice on July 29, 2000, at 18:34:52
In reply to Re: Dreary architecture of your soul.. » Phil , posted by Cam W. on July 29, 2000, at 15:53:56
Cam's right, you just have to type to us a bit here and there. It's great to hear from you. I always hope people are doing really well when they are absent from PB, sorry to hear about the low lows.
Keep in touch, Janice
Posted by Cass on July 29, 2000, at 23:43:00
In reply to Re: Dreary architecture of your soul.., posted by Janice on July 29, 2000, at 18:34:52
Hi Phil,
It's good to know you're still around. I'm sorry to hear about your low, lows. I've had those myself lately. I think I'm beginning to feel better. I hope you do too. Write about it here at PB if you feel inclined to. You might get some information or support that really helps you out.
Best wishes,
Cass
Posted by JohnB on July 30, 2000, at 2:58:43
In reply to Dreary architecture of your soul.., posted by Phil on July 29, 2000, at 15:01:05
We're all still here by the campfire. Drop in any old time. --JB
Posted by Phil on July 30, 2000, at 8:07:29
In reply to Re: Dreary architecture of your soul.., posted by JohnB on July 30, 2000, at 2:58:43
It's good to be back. For a while, I couldn't sit still long enough to even do any decent lurking.
My birthday a few weeks back was the lowest point I've probably ever reached; love those anniversaries!
I think I've just been procrastinating on doing the actions I must do to get well. I do know what helps my depression, along w/ meds, and have been avoiding ANYTHING that could help me.
I, like so many others, have a shame based system I operate from and it just keeps telling me that I don't deserve better. I do deserve better, as does everyone that suffers, but I really get frustrated and angry that I 'seem' to have to try so hard just to, say, have fun or relax.
It's a vicious cycle that I know all too well.
Any of this sound familiar? : 0
Thanks for responing to my post and hello to all the rest here at Babble central.
Hey, I think I may get talkative again.Phil
Posted by ksvt on July 30, 2000, at 21:23:35
In reply to Re: Thanks.., posted by Phil on July 30, 2000, at 8:07:29
> It's good to be back. For a while, I couldn't sit still long enough to even do any decent lurking.
> My birthday a few weeks back was the lowest point I've probably ever reached; love those anniversaries!
> I think I've just been procrastinating on doing the actions I must do to get well. I do know what helps my depression, along w/ meds, and have been avoiding ANYTHING that could help me.
> I, like so many others, have a shame based system I operate from and it just keeps telling me that I don't deserve better. I do deserve better, as does everyone that suffers, but I really get frustrated and angry that I 'seem' to have to try so hard just to, say, have fun or relax.
> It's a vicious cycle that I know all too well.
> Any of this sound familiar? : 0
> Thanks for responing to my post and hello to all the rest here at Babble central.
> Hey, I think I may get talkative again.
>
> Phil
Phil - obviously one of the most insidious things about depressions is that there are things we could be doing to make things better but the depression saps us of the energy or will to do them. In my case, this cycle has gotten worse as time goes on. From an abundance of personal experience, I have more insight now than I used to about why I slip into depressive states and what I could do to avoid, minimize or get out of them. This becomes a heavy load to carry around. I don't necessarily feel like I don't deserve to feel better, but I do sometimes feel that I must subconciously not want to get better. I know there are things I can do to lessen the risk of depressions; I can sometimes see a depression coming on; I know there are things I can do to try to get myself out of a depression. Since I feel that I should be able to control these things so much better, I blame myself for a massive lack of will. Is this anything like what you're describing? On some intellectual level, I know it's all a big trap, but one I fall into with great ease and agility. I hope you do get talkative again. ksvt
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2000, at 18:41:04
In reply to Re: Thanks.., posted by ksvt on July 30, 2000, at 21:23:35
ksvt, Couldn't have put it better. I know that if nothing changes, nothing changes, but I've been through this drill so many times.
I'm reading more spiritual based books that have helped in the past but the best my life has ever been was never that great!
I know what can fix so much of this but my lack of faith holds me back. Hey, one day at a time.
I'm a little scatter brained right now.Phil
ps..it's gotten worse with time for me too.
Posted by Noa on August 9, 2000, at 11:19:48
In reply to Re: Thanks.., posted by Phil on July 31, 2000, at 18:41:04
I have missed you. Good to see you, but sorry you are down.
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