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Posted by Donna Wood on October 10, 2000, at 12:15:32
I AM 38 YEARS OLD AND IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. HOWEVER WHEN I WAS 33 I BEGAN TO HAVE MAJOR MOOD SWINGS AND HOT FLASHES AMONG A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER 'FEELINGS'. I WENT TO MY DR ONLY TO HAVE HER 'REMIND' ME THAT ACCORING THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN AN OFFICE INFO SHEET THERE IS A HISTORY OF MENTAL ILLNESS IN MY FAMILY. I WAS SO MAD THAT I NEVER RETURNED TO THE CLINIC. I DID FIND A DR WHO WOULD LISTEN TO ME AND AFTER A BATTERY OF TESTS SAID I WAS SHOWING SIGNS OF MENAPOUSE. MY TEST CAME BACK AS JUST ON THE NORMAL LINE.
NOW AT 38 I AM LUCKY IF I HAVE 5 GOOD DAYS. I ONLY HAVE 21 DAYS BETWEEN MY CYCLE WHICH LEAVES ME ALWAYS TIRED AND VERY MOODY. I WILL BECOME SO ANXIOUS AT TIMES THAT MY HEART RACES TO THE POINT OFF MY NAILS TRUNING BLUE AND MY LIPS TINGLE. I BATTLE WITH HOT FLASHES AND INSOMNIA ALL OF WHICH I COULD LIVE WITH IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE MOOD SWINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS LOOSING MY MIND AND THAT MAYBE THE DR WAS RIGHT. THE DR I FOUND TO HELP ME IS NO LONGER IN MY AREA. I AM AFRAID TO GO BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO ON DRUGS GEERED TOWARD DEPRESSION AND THEN HAVE IT SHOW UP IN MY RECORDS THAT I WAS TREATED AS BEING DEPRESSED.
I TAKE HERBS A LOT AND HAVE FOUND SOME RELIEF WITH ST. JOHN'S WORT, PRIMROSE OIL AND DONG QUE. HOWEVER, IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND THE RIGHT COMBINATION AND THEY DO NOTHING FOR INSOMNIA AND THE EXTREM TIREDNESS. NOT TO METIONS THE ACHES I SOMETIMES HAVE.
ALSO, SOMETIMES MY SYMTOMS WORSEN AFTER MY PERIOD AND DURING OVULATION.
CAN ANY ONE HELP ME? IS THERE AND HERB COMBO THAT MAY WORK?
HOPEFUL,
DONNA
Posted by tjweeks on October 10, 2000, at 13:36:36
In reply to pmdd - can anyone help me?, posted by Donna Wood on October 10, 2000, at 12:15:32
> I AM 38 YEARS OLD AND IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. HOWEVER WHEN I WAS 33 I BEGAN TO HAVE MAJOR MOOD SWINGS AND HOT FLASHES AMONG A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER 'FEELINGS'. I WENT TO MY DR ONLY TO HAVE HER 'REMIND' ME THAT ACCORING THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN AN OFFICE INFO SHEET THERE IS A HISTORY OF MENTAL ILLNESS IN MY FAMILY. I WAS SO MAD THAT I NEVER RETURNED TO THE CLINIC. I DID FIND A DR WHO WOULD LISTEN TO ME AND AFTER A BATTERY OF TESTS SAID I WAS SHOWING SIGNS OF MENAPOUSE. MY TEST CAME BACK AS JUST ON THE NORMAL LINE.
>
> NOW AT 38 I AM LUCKY IF I HAVE 5 GOOD DAYS. I ONLY HAVE 21 DAYS BETWEEN MY CYCLE WHICH LEAVES ME ALWAYS TIRED AND VERY MOODY. I WILL BECOME SO ANXIOUS AT TIMES THAT MY HEART RACES TO THE POINT OFF MY NAILS TRUNING BLUE AND MY LIPS TINGLE. I BATTLE WITH HOT FLASHES AND INSOMNIA ALL OF WHICH I COULD LIVE WITH IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE MOOD SWINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS LOOSING MY MIND AND THAT MAYBE THE DR WAS RIGHT. THE DR I FOUND TO HELP ME IS NO LONGER IN MY AREA. I AM AFRAID TO GO BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO ON DRUGS GEERED TOWARD DEPRESSION AND THEN HAVE IT SHOW UP IN MY RECORDS THAT I WAS TREATED AS BEING DEPRESSED.
>
> I TAKE HERBS A LOT AND HAVE FOUND SOME RELIEF WITH ST. JOHN'S WORT, PRIMROSE OIL AND DONG QUE. HOWEVER, IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND THE RIGHT COMBINATION AND THEY DO NOTHING FOR INSOMNIA AND THE EXTREM TIREDNESS. NOT TO METIONS THE ACHES I SOMETIMES HAVE.
>
> ALSO, SOMETIMES MY SYMTOMS WORSEN AFTER MY PERIOD AND DURING OVULATION.
>
> CAN ANY ONE HELP ME? IS THERE AND HERB COMBO THAT MAY WORK?
>
> HOPEFUL,
> DONNA
--------------------------------------------------------------------Hi Donna, I was just going to pass along something that has worked well for my wife and several others I know of: Soy. It can be purchased in pill form at most health food stores. I got hers at General Nutrition Center. They helped her with hot flashes and night sweats and a couple of other symptoms. It might help you.--------------good luck
Posted by Donna Wood on October 11, 2000, at 11:24:17
In reply to Re: pmdd - can anyone help me?, posted by tjweeks on October 10, 2000, at 13:36:36
> > I AM 38 YEARS OLD AND IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. HOWEVER WHEN I WAS 33 I BEGAN TO HAVE MAJOR MOOD SWINGS AND HOT FLASHES AMONG A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER 'FEELINGS'. I WENT TO MY DR ONLY TO HAVE HER 'REMIND' ME THAT ACCORING THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN AN OFFICE INFO SHEET THERE IS A HISTORY OF MENTAL ILLNESS IN MY FAMILY. I WAS SO MAD THAT I NEVER RETURNED TO THE CLINIC. I DID FIND A DR WHO WOULD LISTEN TO ME AND AFTER A BATTERY OF TESTS SAID I WAS SHOWING SIGNS OF MENAPOUSE. MY TEST CAME BACK AS JUST ON THE NORMAL LINE.
> >
> > NOW AT 38 I AM LUCKY IF I HAVE 5 GOOD DAYS. I ONLY HAVE 21 DAYS BETWEEN MY CYCLE WHICH LEAVES ME ALWAYS TIRED AND VERY MOODY. I WILL BECOME SO ANXIOUS AT TIMES THAT MY HEART RACES TO THE POINT OFF MY NAILS TRUNING BLUE AND MY LIPS TINGLE. I BATTLE WITH HOT FLASHES AND INSOMNIA ALL OF WHICH I COULD LIVE WITH IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE MOOD SWINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS LOOSING MY MIND AND THAT MAYBE THE DR WAS RIGHT. THE DR I FOUND TO HELP ME IS NO LONGER IN MY AREA. I AM AFRAID TO GO BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO ON DRUGS GEERED TOWARD DEPRESSION AND THEN HAVE IT SHOW UP IN MY RECORDS THAT I WAS TREATED AS BEING DEPRESSED.
> >
> > I TAKE HERBS A LOT AND HAVE FOUND SOME RELIEF WITH ST. JOHN'S WORT, PRIMROSE OIL AND DONG QUE. HOWEVER, IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND THE RIGHT COMBINATION AND THEY DO NOTHING FOR INSOMNIA AND THE EXTREM TIREDNESS. NOT TO METIONS THE ACHES I SOMETIMES HAVE.
> >
> > ALSO, SOMETIMES MY SYMTOMS WORSEN AFTER MY PERIOD AND DURING OVULATION.
> >
> > CAN ANY ONE HELP ME? IS THERE AND HERB COMBO THAT MAY WORK?
> >
> > HOPEFUL,
> > DONNA
> --------------------------------------------------------------------Hi Donna, I was just going to pass along something that has worked well for my wife and several others I know of: Soy. It can be purchased in pill form at most health food stores. I got hers at General Nutrition Center. They helped her with hot flashes and night sweats and a couple of other symptoms. It might help you.--------------good luckTHANKS FOR THE INFO. HOWEVER, I AM ALLERGIC TO SOY. YOU ARE RIGHT THOUGH, SOY DOES WONDERS FOR CALMING AND HOT FLASHES. I BOUGHT SOY NUTS AND ALSO USED SOY POWDER IN COOKING. THE PROBLEM IS THAT ONCE I EAT IT I BREAK OUT IN HIVES.
Posted by MarkinBoston on October 11, 2000, at 17:50:37
In reply to Re: pmdd - can anyone help me? » tjweeks, posted by Donna Wood on October 11, 2000, at 11:24:17
Did you get an endocrine work up? Estradiol, progesterone, cortisol etc? I know these numbers can vary greatly from day to day or morning to night, so following some of the Merck manual protocols for measuring levels hourly (saliva may be OK instead of blood) that its an expensive process. The other thing to do is get a script for a lab to get the levels and wait to get the draw done when you feel worst.
Hormone replacement therapy is available, though it has been an uphill battle finding a good endocrinologist that will treat people "only" our age. I think women should have an easier time of it than I have because HRT is more established for women and the anti-steroid propaganda doesn't impair MD attitudes towards female sex hormone replacement as it does for male sex hormone replacement. Still, most endocrinology clients are diabetics and you may have the best luck with a younger MD, one in a teaching hospital, or one who lists their subspecialties. They are most likely to be current and knowledgeable in your area.
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