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Posted by Natalie on January 17, 2001, at 15:08:23
Hi,
In the past, I have tried St-John's Wort and 5-HTP for a year each (separately) with NO results. I started to believe that those herbals pills just don't work at all on me. I just do not want to give up on finding a natural cure for my mood and weight loss, so I am trying amino acids now. L-Phenylalanine and L-Tyrosine. I have read about those two on several articles online. So, I am willing to give them a try. I started yesterday taking:
L-Phenylalanine 500mg one before breakfast and lunch
L-Tyrosine 500mg two before breakfast and lunch
Vitamin B-6 100mg a day
Vitamin C 1000mg a day
along with my regular vits: multi-vitamin, Vit-E 400mg, Vit-B complex, Folic Acid 1000mg and...
... I am also experimenting on taking Weider's Fat Burners two tablets before breakfast and lunch (which contains chronium picolinate to burn fat)
I am also doing exercises, 3 times a week (I climb stairs outside a football stadium for about 40 minutes)
There you go, this is another attempt for me. I pray to God that it will work this time! I intend to keep you all posted on how I am doing.
Talk to you all soon!
Natalie
Posted by Alli on January 17, 2001, at 20:18:06
In reply to Feeling Good and Weight Loss (amino acids), posted by Natalie on January 17, 2001, at 15:08:23
Natalie ~ Wow! I loved reading this post. At the present time I'm weaning myself off of Effexor with Kava-Kava in the morning and St. John's Wort at night. I also take other vitamins throughout the day and exercise at the healthclub 3-4x a week. I gained 12 lbs. on the Effexor (the reason I'm going off of it), and I'm desperate to lose this weight.
My question regarding some of the supplements you're taking (especially the fat burner) is: do any of these cause a restless feeling? I'm very edgy and panicky and always seem to have a "fluttery" heart as it is, so I'm superconscious of stuff that may exacerbate the problem.
Please write back with any and all results... then I'll copy you! Alli.
Posted by Natalie on January 18, 2001, at 14:12:38
In reply to Re: Feeling Good and Weight Loss (amino acids) » Natalie, posted by Alli on January 17, 2001, at 20:18:06
Hi Alli !
To answer your question, since it has been only 3 days I started taking those amino acids, I did not notice any restlessness. The only thing I can mention is that I don't feel hunger as I used to ... I am not talking about physical hunger but psychological hunger like the need to binge.
I found myself in the kitchen as a automatic reaction to get food (as I was used to binge all the time) and I started to realize that "no, I don't feel like putting food in my mouth" almost like the feeling of being full. (That happened about 2 to 3 hours after the last meal). I guess it is a good thing right?
The amino acids I am taking are supposed to get you "alert" as they say not restless. Although, I did notice that the Fat Burners I am taking contains caffeine. Taking all that don't make me feel "eagy" at all... I sleep very well at night.
I read earlier this morning that L-Tyrosine is also used to treat addictions which is exactly what I am using it for, that's great! I want to share with you another article which says it all about the effect of taking those amino acids.
And Alli, before I go I want to wish you all the success on recovering your ultimate health and I am happy to help you in any way I can. Let's continue sharing and helping each other on that quest to feeling good about ourselves!
ARTICLE : L-Tyrosine is the natural form of the amino acid tyrosine. Amino acids are building blocks of protein and l-tyrosine is directly coded into proteins. Tyrosine can be made from another amino acid, phenylalanine. Phenylalanine and tyrosine together lead to the formation of thyroid hormone, adrenaline and noradrenaline. Adrenaline is a hormone that encourages the breakdown of stored fat. Noradrenaline is a neurotransmitter (a brain chemical that sends signals) that promotes mental alertness, memory, elevates mood and suppresses the appetite.
The body also uses l-tyrosine to make serotonin and dopamine, chemicals that help to make people feel full and discourage eating. Serotonin is a substance within the bloodstream that is produced by the brain. The amount of serotonin released in the brain depends on what food we eat. Carbohydrates, for example, promote the production of serotonin. The mechanism controlling this activity helps to keep carbohydrate and protein intake more or less constant. Because serotonin release is also involved in sleep onset, pain sensitivity, blood pressure regulation, and control of mood, many people learn to overeat carbohydrates (especially snack foods, like potato chips or pastries, which are rich in carbohydrates and fats) to make themselves feel better54. As a result, this habit frequently causes weight gain. Compounds that increase the availability of serotonin, such as l-tyrosine, may result in a feeling of satisfaction and reduce the likelihood of the over-consumption of foods high in fats and/or carbohydrates55.
Some diet pills and anti-obesity prescription drugs, all synthetic, also enhance serotonin's availability. However, many of these drugs have very serious side effects, including development of abnormalities in the valves of the heart. As a result, the majority of these drugs have been removed from the market.
Because l-tyrosine is a component of normal food protein, it is a safe substance. Adrenaline and noradrenaline are produced from l-tyrosine, chemicals that may increase blood pressure or have potential to induce negative cardiovascular effects. However, how much adrenaline and noradrenaline are produced from l-tyrosine depends on what is required. If there is an abundance of l-tyrosine, there is a mechanism that reduces the production of adrenaline and noradrenaline.
It appears that the effects of the hunger-decreasing compound norephedrine (PPA, or l-phenylpropanolamine) can be enhanced with l-tyrosine administration. Using an animal model, l-tyrosine helped amplify the appetite-suppressing activity of PPA by 48%56. This amino acid may be a safe and effective supplement to many fat-loss promoting treatments.
(article taking from http://stores.yahoo.com/mesomorphosis/l-tyrosine.html)
Posted by super on January 19, 2001, at 12:46:23
In reply to Re: Feeling Good and Weight Loss (amino acids), posted by Natalie on January 18, 2001, at 14:12:38
Does anyone know why SSRIs make you gain weight? If they increase the amount of serotonin in the brain and (according to the following article) serotonin makes you feel full, then why do we gain weight on SSRIs?
How about mood stabilizers...anyone have a scientific reason why they make you gain weight?
Do psychiatrists do research on this topic? It seems like they should since so many people go off their meds due to weight gain.
> Hi Alli !
>
> To answer your question, since it has been only 3 days I started taking those amino acids, I did not notice any restlessness. The only thing I can mention is that I don't feel hunger as I used to ... I am not talking about physical hunger but psychological hunger like the need to binge.
>
> I found myself in the kitchen as a automatic reaction to get food (as I was used to binge all the time) and I started to realize that "no, I don't feel like putting food in my mouth" almost like the feeling of being full. (That happened about 2 to 3 hours after the last meal). I guess it is a good thing right?
>
> The amino acids I am taking are supposed to get you "alert" as they say not restless. Although, I did notice that the Fat Burners I am taking contains caffeine. Taking all that don't make me feel "eagy" at all... I sleep very well at night.
>
> I read earlier this morning that L-Tyrosine is also used to treat addictions which is exactly what I am using it for, that's great! I want to share with you another article which says it all about the effect of taking those amino acids.
>
> And Alli, before I go I want to wish you all the success on recovering your ultimate health and I am happy to help you in any way I can. Let's continue sharing and helping each other on that quest to feeling good about ourselves!
>
> ARTICLE : L-Tyrosine is the natural form of the amino acid tyrosine. Amino acids are building blocks of protein and l-tyrosine is directly coded into proteins. Tyrosine can be made from another amino acid, phenylalanine. Phenylalanine and tyrosine together lead to the formation of thyroid hormone, adrenaline and noradrenaline. Adrenaline is a hormone that encourages the breakdown of stored fat. Noradrenaline is a neurotransmitter (a brain chemical that sends signals) that promotes mental alertness, memory, elevates mood and suppresses the appetite.
>
> The body also uses l-tyrosine to make serotonin and dopamine, chemicals that help to make people feel full and discourage eating. Serotonin is a substance within the bloodstream that is produced by the brain. The amount of serotonin released in the brain depends on what food we eat. Carbohydrates, for example, promote the production of serotonin. The mechanism controlling this activity helps to keep carbohydrate and protein intake more or less constant. Because serotonin release is also involved in sleep onset, pain sensitivity, blood pressure regulation, and control of mood, many people learn to overeat carbohydrates (especially snack foods, like potato chips or pastries, which are rich in carbohydrates and fats) to make themselves feel better54. As a result, this habit frequently causes weight gain. Compounds that increase the availability of serotonin, such as l-tyrosine, may result in a feeling of satisfaction and reduce the likelihood of the over-consumption of foods high in fats and/or carbohydrates55.
>
> Some diet pills and anti-obesity prescription drugs, all synthetic, also enhance serotonin's availability. However, many of these drugs have very serious side effects, including development of abnormalities in the valves of the heart. As a result, the majority of these drugs have been removed from the market.
>
> Because l-tyrosine is a component of normal food protein, it is a safe substance. Adrenaline and noradrenaline are produced from l-tyrosine, chemicals that may increase blood pressure or have potential to induce negative cardiovascular effects. However, how much adrenaline and noradrenaline are produced from l-tyrosine depends on what is required. If there is an abundance of l-tyrosine, there is a mechanism that reduces the production of adrenaline and noradrenaline.
>
> It appears that the effects of the hunger-decreasing compound norephedrine (PPA, or l-phenylpropanolamine) can be enhanced with l-tyrosine administration. Using an animal model, l-tyrosine helped amplify the appetite-suppressing activity of PPA by 48%56. This amino acid may be a safe and effective supplement to many fat-loss promoting treatments.
>
> (article taking from http://stores.yahoo.com/mesomorphosis/l-tyrosine.html)
Posted by Natalie on January 19, 2001, at 13:26:52
In reply to Re: Feeling Good and Weight Loss (amino acids), posted by super on January 19, 2001, at 12:46:23
Sorry SUPER, I wish I would have an answer to that. Good Luck!
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