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Posted by rogdog on January 19, 2001, at 18:00:20
well I have ben taking nardil for about 5 weks now and I posted earlier in the week about how great nardil works,but it seems to be slowing down or wearing off allready! ..I am also taking xanax 4mg a day which seems to be "pooping" out all together, I dont know whether to quit the nardil,the only thing s I havent tried are amisulpiride or tianeptine....I know you some of you guys are big fans of amisullpride. I tried zyprexa for a couple of months and NOTHING.. didnt help a bit, has anyone had success with tianeptine? all the ssri's make me more anxiousso mabey tianeptine will do the opposite?? I dont know!.. I am getting frustrated of stuff working for a couple of weeks and then bam! no mas...any ideas. thanks guys, Rogdog
Posted by SalArmy4me on January 19, 2001, at 23:40:57
In reply to anxiety advice needed! andrew, johnl, anyone, posted by rogdog on January 19, 2001, at 18:00:20
There are many studies on Medline that suggest that adding Lithium to antidepressants helps regain efficacy. I added Lithium to Parnate and Parnate started to work again. Or you can add buspirone or pindolol (pindolol works for me too).
Posted by Gracie2 on January 20, 2001, at 0:36:47
In reply to anxiety advice needed! andrew, johnl, anyone, posted by rogdog on January 19, 2001, at 18:00:20
I was given depakote and seroquel for anxiety and they worked quite well. Before meds, I had terrible insomnia, panic attacks, crying jags, etc. After meds, I was able to sleep - almost too well - and became downright calm. I quit drinking and almost quit smoking - down to 5 cigarettes a day.Alas, there are side effects. I experienced pronounced emotional "flattening"...I didn't feel anxious or depressed, but neither did I feel anything else. I was pretty much sedated all the time. I quit reading and started watching TV. I lost every last creative urge...the kiss of death for an artist. And I gained quite a bit of weight, although this might have been due to the prozac or paxil, or a combination of these with the depakote.
Now that I am off the depakote and seroquel (which was my decision, not my doctor's) my old habits are returning...smoking, drinking, and not sleeping. I am having bouts of depression and anxiety that I did not experience on meds. I'm considering a return to the depakote and seroquel, possibly at a lower dosage (I was taking 500 mg of depakote and 150 mg of seroquel
daily).Despite the side effects, if you're suffering from severe anxiety, I have to recommend this medication - they'll knock it right out.
-Gracie
Posted by kazoo on January 20, 2001, at 2:18:48
In reply to anxiety advice needed! andrew, johnl, anyone, posted by rogdog on January 19, 2001, at 18:00:20
> well I have ben taking nardil for about 5 weks now and I posted earlier in the week about how great nardil works,but it seems to be slowing down or wearing off allready! ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Greetz to rogdog (interesting moniker, I might add)
The problem I see with those people taking new medications (myself included) is that they tend not to give the drug a fair amount of time to work. Granted, five weeks is a long time by today's standards, but you're taking the kind of drug that needs more than five weeks. The good results you got in the beginning indicates to me that this combination is right for you. This "lull" your experiencing now is merely your body/brain adjusting to the medication, and doesn't necessarily mean these drugs stopped working.
Ordinarily I don't like to make suggestions, but in your case I will: I suggest you stick with what you're now taking for a while longer, and try not to be so anxious about it. I *do not* advise you to start trying new combinations to augment your present protocol simply because you have no idea how you will react to these chemicals, and I believe that this is where most run into trouble. Remember: just because someone says a particular drug combination worked for them does it mean it will work for you (and don't give me that "How-will-I-know-if-I-don't-try-it!" crap because that indicates "experimentation" and when it comes to your health, this is not wise, or a sane justification to jump into a chemical malestrom). It has been my experience (in the past) that when you start mixing and matching chemicals simply because you feel your present ones aren't doing the trick, you're asking for trouble and even greater problems and you'll find yourself worse off.
Stick with your protocol until you're absolutely sure it's not right for you, take a drug holiday, then re-evaluate with your doctor about a new protocol.
Stay well,
kazoo
Posted by Buffet on January 20, 2001, at 3:16:12
In reply to Re: anxiety advice needed! andrew, johnl, anyone » rogdog, posted by kazoo on January 20, 2001, at 2:18:48
Rogdog,
I have had miraculous results from switching xanax to klonopin. Screw the xanax! Klonopin will mellow you out for the entire day, but not the up and down cycle that you get from xanax. If your taking 4mgs of xanax, get yourself on 3-5mg of klonopin. Give it a try, it worked for me, and just recently (started last month). No more cravings, no more panic, its a good drug and better than xanax IMO!
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