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Posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
Hi, I have been diagnosed with depression (dysthymia, anxiety disorder, Obssessive-compulsive). Well my question is, I have been suffering for most of my life as far back as I can remember, even at age 10. I some how managed to annoy people (and still do) unintentionally and I get picked on because I am an easy target. Now, I am 20yrs old, I am wondering if I am just stupid or am like this because of a mental illness. I've never done drugs, I've taken one puff out of a cigarette which I didn't even inhale. I drink 4-6 bottles of beer a month at most. Anyways, I can't meet deadlines, I feel like a failure. I HOPE NOBODY ELSE FEELS the SAME WAY I DO because it really SUCKS. However, if anybody can relate, please please do reply. Basically, I always feel stupid and inferior. I try to avoid ppl as much as possible. I never had a girlfriend at all, perhaps a classmate who chills with me once in a while. I always feel left out. Heck, I don't even care about myself anymore. I mean I would take 100mg of my AD instead of 30, if there would be a severe side effect, so be it.
Posted by SalArmy4me on April 17, 2001, at 1:12:47
In reply to when is depression not depression?, posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
Sorry that you are so unhappy...
If you took 100 mg right away, the treatment would then become worse than the disease.
The only study pertinent to dose response for effectiveness did not demonstrate an advantage for a dose as high as 60 mg/day as opposed to 40mg; Doses above 40 mg are therefore not ordinarily recommended:
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/citalo_ids.htmGo see the doctor as soon as you can; if he can't see you, go to another.
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Posted by Noa on April 17, 2001, at 6:44:25
In reply to when is depression not depression?, posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
Dubya,
It does sound like depression to me--and yes, I can certainly relate to the self-critical thoughts that you are talking about. Try to be more compassionate toward yourself---it does take time for things to change. Are you in therapy? It soudns like you could use it, given how badly you feel about yourself and given all the difficult experiences you have had. Don't take more medication than prescribed. If you feel the med isn't working, talk to the doctor about it. If you aren't sure the doc is listening, get a second opinion.
Posted by mikes on April 17, 2001, at 23:24:32
In reply to when is depression not depression?, posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
I hear you, I was exactly that way until a year ago. Hang in there.
> Hi, I have been diagnosed with depression (dysthymia, anxiety disorder, Obssessive-compulsive). Well my question is, I have been suffering for most of my life as far back as I can remember, even at age 10. I some how managed to annoy people (and still do) unintentionally and I get picked on because I am an easy target. Now, I am 20yrs old, I am wondering if I am just stupid or am like this because of a mental illness. I've never done drugs, I've taken one puff out of a cigarette which I didn't even inhale. I drink 4-6 bottles of beer a month at most. Anyways, I can't meet deadlines, I feel like a failure. I HOPE NOBODY ELSE FEELS the SAME WAY I DO because it really SUCKS. However, if anybody can relate, please please do reply. Basically, I always feel stupid and inferior. I try to avoid ppl as much as possible. I never had a girlfriend at all, perhaps a classmate who chills with me once in a while. I always feel left out. Heck, I don't even care about myself anymore. I mean I would take 100mg of my AD instead of 30, if there would be a severe side effect, so be it.
Posted by dougb on April 19, 2001, at 19:36:29
In reply to Re: when is depression not depression?, posted by mikes on April 17, 2001, at 23:24:32
Dubya:
I think all of us can be too hard on ourselves.
If you are already in that mindset, it can be
self-reinforcing.What i try to do is to feed myself good images and thoughts
about myself; "so what if X did not work out the
way i wanted, their'll be another day" etc.Get in the habit of making small talk with the opposite sex.
You know, 'It's a nice day' whatever. If you constantly use
no-pressure opportunities, when someone special comes along
it will be easier to get to know that person.Cultivate a sense of humor, and try to use that to put a smile
on people's faces.Do what you can to make others feel good about themselves. Sincere
complements etc. It may sound corny but positive energy runs in a
circular motion.Volunteering your time a few hours a week is a great way to meet others
and it always feels good and makes you feel good about yourself.Any small kindness you may offer to those around you will have the same
effect.Invite God into your life, He is out there and if you leave your problems
in His hands, He will surely provide what you need.Love yourself, never put yourself down (or others either), there is power in the spoken word...
Sincerely
Doug B
at one time or another, or in my case for the first 35 years
Posted by Michele on April 20, 2001, at 2:11:50
In reply to Re: some suggestions, posted by dougb on April 19, 2001, at 19:36:29
I just had to tell you...... these are the best comments for this I have ever heard. Loved your post. > Dubya:
>
> I think all of us can be too hard on ourselves.
>
> If you are already in that mindset, it can be
> self-reinforcing.
>
> What i try to do is to feed myself good images and thoughts
> about myself; "so what if X did not work out the
> way i wanted, their'll be another day" etc.
>
> Get in the habit of making small talk with the opposite sex.
> You know, 'It's a nice day' whatever. If you constantly use
> no-pressure opportunities, when someone special comes along
> it will be easier to get to know that person.
>
> Cultivate a sense of humor, and try to use that to put a smile
> on people's faces.
>
> Do what you can to make others feel good about themselves. Sincere
> complements etc. It may sound corny but positive energy runs in a
> circular motion.
>
> Volunteering your time a few hours a week is a great way to meet others
> and it always feels good and makes you feel good about yourself.
>
> Any small kindness you may offer to those around you will have the same
> effect.
>
> Invite God into your life, He is out there and if you leave your problems
> in His hands, He will surely provide what you need.
>
> Love yourself, never put yourself down (or others either), there is power in the spoken word...
>
> Sincerely
> Doug B
> at one time or another, or in my case for the first 35 years
Posted by Shar on April 20, 2001, at 18:09:45
In reply to when is depression not depression?, posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
Dub:
I mean this seriously, but still a little lightly: If it was depression, you wouldn't have to ask.Dysthymia is my dx, I feel sad or melancholy or "blue" all the time. I have episodes of horrible, breathtaking depression that ad's do not help with. With dysthymia, you should expect low level depression pretty much all the time.
However, from reading your post I don't feel like you are describing depression (IMHO), and you've probably read many descriptions of what depression feels like to many people on this board. If true it's not depression, that is good news (IMHO).
Just my guess.
Shar> Hi, I have been diagnosed with depression (dysthymia, anxiety disorder, Obssessive-compulsive). Well my question is, I have been suffering for most of my life as far back as I can remember, even at age 10. I some how managed to annoy people (and still do) unintentionally and I get picked on because I am an easy target. Now, I am 20yrs old, I am wondering if I am just stupid or am like this because of a mental illness. I've never done drugs, I've taken one puff out of a cigarette which I didn't even inhale. I drink 4-6 bottles of beer a month at most. Anyways, I can't meet deadlines, I feel like a failure. I HOPE NOBODY ELSE FEELS the SAME WAY I DO because it really SUCKS. However, if anybody can relate, please please do reply. Basically, I always feel stupid and inferior. I try to avoid ppl as much as possible. I never had a girlfriend at all, perhaps a classmate who chills with me once in a while. I always feel left out. Heck, I don't even care about myself anymore. I mean I would take 100mg of my AD instead of 30, if there would be a severe side effect, so be it.
Posted by Elizabeth on May 2, 2001, at 4:53:24
In reply to when is depression not depression?, posted by Dubya on April 16, 2001, at 22:10:38
> Hi, I have been diagnosed with depression (dysthymia, anxiety disorder, Obssessive-compulsive). Well my question is, I have been suffering for most of my life as far back as I can remember, even at age 10. I some how managed to annoy people (and still do) unintentionally and I get picked on because I am an easy target. Now, I am 20yrs old, I am wondering if I am just stupid or am like this because of a mental illness. I've never done drugs, I've taken one puff out of a cigarette which I didn't even inhale. I drink 4-6 bottles of beer a month at most. Anyways, I can't meet deadlines, I feel like a failure.
Hi...this sounds like something that is sometimes diagnosed as ADD/ADHD -- social ineptitude, disorganisation, etc., going back to childhood. I know a young woman who describes some of the same problems and now takes Ritalin. She says it makes it easier for her to control impulses (think before acting/speaking) and be organised. She has been diagnosed with ADHD, with secondary chronic depression and anxiety.
I don't know if this will help, it's just an idea you may not have considered. Good luck, regardless.
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