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Posted by jimmygold70 on July 24, 2001, at 15:08:39
That mights sound like "a pill for every ill" sort of question, but I have to confront now a lengthy admission process for a high-pay sales job. After the initial group interaction test, the tester decided that I can go on with on-the-job training, in case I will prove to be far more assertive (he DID like my other personality traits: knowing how to listen and giving respect and empathy to others). I suffer from Borderline personality disorder. I am now taking Ixel (Effexor-like drug), Risperdal and Depakote. The question is: is there anything I can add to the cocktail to make me more assertive ? Xanax didn't make much difference.
Will amphtamines do ? Won't they counteract Risperdal's positive effects ?
What about Klonopin ?
Other drug ideas ? I have no time for social skill training right now, or I'll lose that job opportunity.
Jimmy
Posted by Else on July 24, 2001, at 21:09:35
In reply to Best drug for Assertiveness ?, posted by jimmygold70 on July 24, 2001, at 15:08:39
I find cocaine combined with alcohol always gives me that "extra" assertivness I sometimes need;)
>That mights sound like "a pill for every ill" sort of question, but I have to confront now a lengthy admission process for a high-pay sales job
Yes that's exctly what it sounds like but my advice is basically sound. Just turn cocaine into a more socially acceptable substance like Dexedrine, and alcohol into Klonopin (very disihibiting, I know, I take it). How much Xanax were you taking? I'm surprised it didn't work.BTW, are you taking Risperdal for psychosis? If so, major stimulants might not be such a good idea.
I do have a few questions though. If this job requires assertivness (that you lack), why do you want it so badly? Does this sound like the right job for you? It's really none of my business but I don't think things tend to be that simple. You're talking about being "far more" assertive. That's not a small detail, it's a big change. I can only speak for myself but I can say this: Klonopin makes me a little more assertive. Assertive enough that I can post and not just lurk. That's a small change. Big changes tend to involve big drugs with nasty downsides (coke, for instance). Anyway, you're the one who knows what you're capable of. I'd go with a higher dose of Xanax or Klonopin. Stimulants don't really go with Risperdal although some people here would disagree.
>After the initial group interaction test, the tester decided that I can go on with on-the-job training, in case I will prove to be far more assertive (he DID like my other personality traits: knowing how to listen and giving respect and empathy to others). I suffer from Borderline personality disorder. I am now taking Ixel (Effexor-like drug), Risperdal and Depakote. The question is: is there anything I can add to the cocktail to make me more assertive ? Xanax didn't make much difference.
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> Will amphtamines do ? Won't they counteract Risperdal's positive effects ?
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> What about Klonopin ?
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> Other drug ideas ? I have no time for social skill training right now, or I'll lose that job opportunity.
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> Jimmy
Posted by lawrence s. on July 25, 2001, at 1:28:11
In reply to Re: Best drug for Assertiveness ? » jimmygold70, posted by Else on July 24, 2001, at 21:09:35
> I find cocaine combined with alcohol always gives me that "extra" assertivness I sometimes need;)
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> >That mights sound like "a pill for every ill" sort of question, but I have to confront now a lengthy admission process for a high-pay sales job
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>
> Yes that's exctly what it sounds like but my advice is basically sound. Just turn cocaine into a more socially acceptable substance like Dexedrine, and alcohol into Klonopin (very disihibiting, I know, I take it). How much Xanax were you taking? I'm surprised it didn't work.
>
> BTW, are you taking Risperdal for psychosis? If so, major stimulants might not be such a good idea.
>
> I do have a few questions though. If this job requires assertivness (that you lack), why do you want it so badly? Does this sound like the right job for you? It's really none of my business but I don't think things tend to be that simple. You're talking about being "far more" assertive. That's not a small detail, it's a big change. I can only speak for myself but I can say this: Klonopin makes me a little more assertive. Assertive enough that I can post and not just lurk. That's a small change. Big changes tend to involve big drugs with nasty downsides (coke, for instance). Anyway, you're the one who knows what you're capable of. I'd go with a higher dose of Xanax or Klonopin. Stimulants don't really go with Risperdal although some people here would disagree.I would vote for Modafinil or Adrafinil and get rid of the A.P. Maybe add some Neurontin. Luvox seems to have some asertiveness qualitys too.
> >After the initial group interaction test, the tester decided that I can go on with on-the-job training, in case I will prove to be far more assertive (he DID like my other personality traits: knowing how to listen and giving respect and empathy to others). I suffer from Borderline personality disorder. I am now taking Ixel (Effexor-like drug), Risperdal and Depakote. The question is: is there anything I can add to the cocktail to make me more assertive ? Xanax didn't make much difference.
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> > Will amphtamines do ? Won't they counteract Risperdal's positive effects ?
> >
> > What about Klonopin ?
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> > Other drug ideas ? I have no time for social skill training right now, or I'll lose that job opportunity.
> >
> > Jimmy
Posted by ksc on July 25, 2001, at 14:47:04
In reply to anorexia, posted by helmi on July 25, 2001, at 10:09:39
Oh Helmi I'm soooo sorry!!!
Effexor is the last drug you should have been prescribed for Anorexia. I remember reading that Anorexia is sometimes a SIDE AFFECT of the Effexor. Although it does tend to put weight onto some of us less fortunate souls(40 lbs for me), it apparently has the opposite affect on others. I hate to say it, but your doc really should have known that.
My first suggestion would be to change doctors.
Helmi, my own success story with eating disorders and Effexor, is that I was able to conquer my own battle with bullimia with the combination of Effexor and counseling. The Effexor (although full of nasty side affects) gave me a "who cares" type of attitude, long enough to stop worrying so much about my appearance. But it was the counseling that really did it. It helped me to realize that the damage I was doing to my body, was far worse than not being perfect. Most importantly it helped me get to the root of WHY I felt that incescant need to be perfect. The bottom line was that I had to choose between imperfection and life.... or perfection and death.
Posted by jimmygold70 on July 25, 2001, at 14:49:36
In reply to Re: Best drug for Assertiveness ?, posted by lawrence s. on July 25, 2001, at 1:28:11
Modafinil does work for me but it's hard to get around here. That is an option, though. I do have Neurontin but never used it. Is it expected to increase assertiveness ? Are you sure about that ?
SSRI never did much good to me.
> I would vote for Modafinil or Adrafinil and get rid of the A.P. Maybe add some Neurontin. Luvox seems to have some asertiveness qualitys too.
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