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Posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer? Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
Posted by OldSchool on January 31, 2002, at 21:17:37
In reply to Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
> Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer? Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
You werent "chosen to suffer." You just have had the bad luck (and the genetic susceptibility) to develop severe depression problems. You got nailed by a serious brain based disease, which is too often trivialized and not even treated as if its a real, physically based illness. This illness you have, which is brain based always remember that, is poorly understood scientifically. Like all brain based illnesses, much stigma and stupidity surround it.
The fact is that the science people just dont know much about the human brain. Hence the inability to successfully diagnose and treat many severe forms of mental illness. Brain science lags behind other branches of medical science.
Old School
Posted by WhiteHare on January 31, 2002, at 21:39:12
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by OldSchool on January 31, 2002, at 21:17:37
> > Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer? Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
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> You werent "chosen to suffer." You just have had the bad luck (and the genetic susceptibility) to develop severe depression problems. You got nailed by a serious brain based disease, which is too often trivialized and not even treated as if its a real, physically based illness. This illness you have, which is brain based always remember that, is poorly understood scientifically. Like all brain based illnesses, much stigma and stupidity surround it.
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> The fact is that the science people just dont know much about the human brain. Hence the inability to successfully diagnose and treat many severe forms of mental illness. Brain science lags behind other branches of medical science.
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> Old SchoolSometimes I get very upset and depressed and wonder WHY WHY WHY. I remind myself that I wasn't choosen to be tall, brown haired, and brown eyed, my genes just worked out that way. I wasn't choosen to be mentally ill, that's just how things worked out.
Then I remind myself that I can choose to be active in my recovery, treat myself well, eat healthy, avoid alcohol and drugs, and be the best me I can be. I can be only me. No more and no less. I do the best I can and hope that it's enough.
But I still go through the WHY WHY WHY sometimes.
I don't know if that helps. Sometimes it helps me just to know that someone else feels the same way I do. I hope my comments helped you.
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 31, 2002, at 22:12:11
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by WhiteHare on January 31, 2002, at 21:39:12
Keep up the fight. It's not your fault, and you must believe somewhere, somehow, a way out exists. It does, and you may find it one day. But only if you keep looking.
Scott
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 31, 2002, at 23:38:52
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer? » WhiteHare, posted by Mr. Scott on January 31, 2002, at 22:12:11
> Keep up the fight. It's not your fault, and you must believe somewhere, somehow, a way out exists. It does, and you may find it one day. But only if you keep looking.
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> Scott
Posted by Michael D on February 1, 2002, at 11:45:18
In reply to Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
> Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer?
Please take this religious cr*p to psychobabble -social.
Honestly, I used to think like you do, but all it was was my depression keeping me from thinking straight.
Michael D
Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
Posted by Cindylou on February 1, 2002, at 12:55:07
In reply to Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
I know. I feel it too. It sucks.
Sometimes, though, when I have breaks in the depression, I am able to think to myself, "maybe this can be used for some good ... this depression is making me much more empathetic to other people's suffering..."
And on good days, I can even think things like, "at least I can walk and see and hear. At least there are doctors and therapists and meds out there that can hopefully help me someday. Maybe I'm not as bad off as I could be."
But believe me, I know that I can't always think that way. The depression takes hold and nothing seems positive.
Just hang in there, and know that there are hundreds and thousands of people who feel the same way you do ... you are not alone. This board is just a small representation of all the people who suffer from this same disease.
And there is help out there...
hang in there, friend.
cindy
> Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer? Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
Posted by Reneeb on February 1, 2002, at 14:06:08
In reply to Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
> I believe this is when our faith kicks in. Why do people get cancer, etc., I tell my child all the time that "life's not fair". I know what you are feeling. When I get like that I try to remember that there are a lot of people that are really suffering. Please hang in there it will be okay!!!!!
Renee
Posted by benzapp on February 1, 2002, at 17:46:55
In reply to Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by johnnyjohn on January 31, 2002, at 20:27:36
Do not discount the strength of your own will. No one choses your path, only you do. Its hard I know, but no one can make you do anything. Thats part of happiness, is doing the very things you described. You just have to do it. Get a book on rational-emotive therapy. As long as you believe that a god has fated your life, you will never be happy.
> Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer? Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
Posted by benzapp on February 1, 2002, at 17:52:08
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by Michael D on February 1, 2002, at 11:45:18
Yeah, I only hope that the mental health profession starts to acknowledge the reality that you will never find a depressed atheist. Religious belief predisposes people to depression because it robs them of their rational intellect. There is no "why". Things just are.
Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes homines - Seneca
"Fire proves gold, calamity proves strong men."It is lifes difficulties that define who we are. Happiness is overcoming them.
> > Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer?
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> Please take this religious cr*p to psychobabble -social.
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> Honestly, I used to think like you do, but all it was was my depression keeping me from thinking straight.
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> Michael D
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> Why must I endure days on end of depression and anxiety? Instead of spending my time with hobbies, family, career as others do, I spend it with psychiatrist, social workers, pharmacists. I spend it trying to fix my brain. Oh, just to feel again .... to laugh, cry, love, daydream. No, just pain. This is the path God has chosen for me. Why I was chosen, will never know. Why I would trade my life for just one normal year of existence, just one year.
Posted by johnnyjohn on February 1, 2002, at 17:59:21
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by Michael D on February 1, 2002, at 11:45:18
> > Why were we chosen as the ones to suffer?
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> Please take this religious cr*p to psychobabble -social.
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Thank asshole. Fuck you!JohnnyJohn
Posted by Krazy Kat on February 1, 2002, at 18:35:54
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by Michael D on February 1, 2002, at 11:45:18
O.K., Really inappropriate response.
I feel this way at times and am not "religious".
Posted by Krazy Kat on February 1, 2002, at 18:37:13
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer? » Michael D, posted by johnnyjohn on February 1, 2002, at 17:59:21
O.K. well, I just defended you, but now see that you're "just as bad". Remember try to "rise above"?
Posted by johnnyjohn on February 1, 2002, at 18:57:39
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer? » johnnyjohn, posted by Krazy Kat on February 1, 2002, at 18:37:13
> O.K. well, I just defended you, but now see that you're "just as bad". Remember try to "rise above"?
Sorry, I couldn't help myself .... I guess I will be banned.
JohnnyJohn
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 1, 2002, at 20:12:24
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by Michael D on February 1, 2002, at 11:45:18
> Please take this religious cr*p to psychobabble -social.
Please be civil, thanks.
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding civility should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 1, 2002, at 20:16:02
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer?, posted by benzapp on February 1, 2002, at 17:52:08
> Religious belief predisposes people to depression because it robs them of their rational intellect.
Please respect the views of others and be sensitive to their feelings even if you think they're wrong. And please don't put them down. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 1, 2002, at 20:18:26
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer? » Michael D, posted by johnnyjohn on February 1, 2002, at 17:59:21
> Thank asshole. Fuck you!
Please be sensitive to the feelings of others even if they hurt yours. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 1, 2002, at 20:49:09
In reply to Re: Why Were We Chosen as the Ones to Suffer? » johnnyjohn, posted by Reneeb on February 1, 2002, at 14:06:08
> I believe this is when our faith kicks in...
Sorry, I almost forgot, further follow-ups to this thread should in fact go to Psycho-Social-Babble:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020125/msgs/17699.html
Thanks,
Bob
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