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Posted by ace on June 23, 2003, at 21:38:47
I know it is impossible to answer this question empirically- but theoretically, 2 yrs on 2.5mg- what do you deem the risk for EPS?
Just wondering..
Ace.
Posted by Sebastian on June 23, 2003, at 23:10:49
In reply to Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by ace on June 23, 2003, at 21:38:47
None. I take 10mg for 5 years!
Sebastian
Posted by ace on June 24, 2003, at 0:08:07
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa??? » ace, posted by Sebastian on June 23, 2003, at 23:10:49
> None. I take 10mg for 5 years!
>
> SebastianHey dude,
Has that been continuous or have you had breaks? Did you ever worry about EPS? Man, I want to start Zyprexa real bad, but I'm obsessing abot the possible s/effects- give me so advice! I know it will clear up the OCD big time.Cheers,
Ace.
Posted by cybercafe on June 24, 2003, at 7:42:02
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa??? » Sebastian, posted by ace on June 24, 2003, at 0:08:07
> > None. I take 10mg for 5 years!
> >
> > Sebastian
>
> Hey dude,
> Has that been continuous or have you had breaks? Did you ever worry about EPS? Man, I want to start Zyprexa real bad, but I'm obsessing abot the possible s/effects- give me so advice! I know it will clear up the OCD big time.why not try it, if you don't like it, quit
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 24, 2003, at 7:54:09
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by cybercafe on June 24, 2003, at 7:42:02
I've been on Zyprexa for 2 years now... up to 15 mg at one point, but have settled down at 5mg.. I've never had ANY problems from it (oh, except the night I tried to OD on 80mg.. I was up for 2 days twitching then).. I took a 2 month break from it last year, and quite quickly the suicidal ideation came rushing back, so went back on it..
My only problem with it is th weight gain.. but its better than planning my death the whole time..
Nikki x
Posted by kotsunega on June 24, 2003, at 15:51:22
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by NikkiT2 on June 24, 2003, at 7:54:09
> I've been on Zyprexa for 2 years now... up to 15 mg at one point, but have settled down at 5mg.. I've never had ANY problems from it (oh, except the night I tried to OD on 80mg.. I was up for 2 days twitching then).. I took a 2 month break from it last year, and quite quickly the suicidal ideation came rushing back, so went back on it..
>
> My only problem with it is th weight gain.. but its better than planning my death the whole time..
>
> Nikki x
I took 20 mg Zyprexa for about 3 years and 4 months without problem, then switched to 30 mg Abilify (to counteract weight gain) and haven't had any problem with it either.-kotsunega
Posted by ace on June 24, 2003, at 23:37:03
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by kotsunega on June 24, 2003, at 15:51:22
Posted by disney4 on June 26, 2003, at 9:44:24
In reply to Thanks all! Feeling less worried now!!! (nm), posted by ace on June 24, 2003, at 23:37:03
I have read that Zyprexa and Serzone are similar in some ways. I looked them up on the drug chart, but I am not sure if they are similar in the ways that count. Just a thought, because I am starting back up on Serzone, but I will be having monthly liver checks. I took it in the past and my liver tests back then were fine too. My concern about Zyprexa is the possible connection to diabetes, but I havent researched it too much. I share your concern for meds. I worry whenever I take anything, because I am very med sensitive. Good luck with everything!
Posted by Sebastian on June 26, 2003, at 10:08:53
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa??? » Sebastian, posted by ace on June 24, 2003, at 0:08:07
Prity much continuous, I took one or two short breaks for a month or less. I love the stuff, nothing better.
Posted by Sebastian on June 26, 2003, at 10:11:53
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by NikkiT2 on June 24, 2003, at 7:54:09
I just lost 50 lbs in 3 months taking the 10mg Zyprexa, all natural method.
Sebastian
Posted by Sebastian on June 26, 2003, at 10:16:28
In reply to Re: Thanks all! Feeling less worried now!!! » ace, posted by disney4 on June 26, 2003, at 9:44:24
I don't think the Zyprexa causes diabites or high cholesterol, just from the medicine itself. I think its the over eating and weight gain. When I lost the 50lbs my cholesterol went right back to normal.
Posted by cybercafe on June 26, 2003, at 15:01:40
In reply to Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by ace on June 23, 2003, at 21:38:47
> I know it is impossible to answer this question empirically- but theoretically, 2 yrs on 2.5mg- what do you deem the risk for EPS?
>
> Just wondering..
> Ace.i think the only thing you need to worry about is irreversible EPS ... i had EPS when i took 5 mg, but it went away after about 3 weeks...
what is really bad is if you get irreversible eps which won't go away even after you stop taking the drug... i think this is rare at 2.5 mg .. and the only cases i've heard of are from people who started to feel numbness and continued to take the medication (also higher doses or APs with higher risks of EPS)
i'd say go for it dude.. zyprexa is great when it comes to incidence of EPS / TD
Posted by ace on June 27, 2003, at 2:34:12
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by cybercafe on June 26, 2003, at 15:01:40
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> i think the only thing you need to worry about is irreversible EPS ... i had EPS when i took 5 mg, but it went away after about 3 weeks...
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> what is really bad is if you get irreversible eps which won't go away even after you stop taking the drug... i think this is rare at 2.5 mg .. and the only cases i've heard of are from people who started to feel numbness and continued to take the medication (also higher doses or APs with higher risks of EPS)
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> i'd say go for it dude.. zyprexa is great when it comes to incidence of EPS / TD
>Thanks Cybersafe!,
I aggree with you man. 2.5mg is very low and EPS is so rare. Like I've heard of folk on 10mg for like 3 years. 10mg for 3 years is equivalant to 2.5 mg for 12 years- and they had no probs nor should I.I'm going to do it I think- I'd rather have no OCD and have the tiny risk. Also, I've heard of people on low-doses of Haldol for 15 years- no EPS. You just want to keep your dose low, if poss. Even EPS usually fades with time, and the EPS isn't actually very much in most cases.
How long have you been on it? Working great I assume?
Take Care mate,
Ace.
Posted by cybercafe on June 27, 2003, at 14:33:50
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa??? » cybercafe, posted by ace on June 27, 2003, at 2:34:12
> How long have you been on it? Working great I assume?
i've been on it for about a year ... and it works really well for bipolar ... unlike valporate, it doesn't make me sleepy all day, doesn't give me tremors, and actually makes my moods stable....
oh yeah, doesn't require a blood test either :)for me it's a wonder drug
Posted by Geezer on June 27, 2003, at 21:31:35
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa???, posted by cybercafe on June 27, 2003, at 14:33:50
> > How long have you been on it? Working great I assume?
>
> i've been on it for about a year ... and it works really well for bipolar ... unlike valporate, it doesn't make me sleepy all day, doesn't give me tremors, and actually makes my moods stable....
> oh yeah, doesn't require a blood test either :)
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> for me it's a wonder drugDoes it do anything for the atypical depression that comes with Bipolar II. Hypomanic periods (if I have any) are not a problem - haven't been able to shake the atypical depression for 3 years. Lamictal 350, Prozac 15, and Klonopin 1.5 keeps me alive but not much more. I have tried the other combos.
Geezer
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Posted by cybercafe on June 27, 2003, at 22:04:04
In reply to Re: Risk of EPS with 2yrs+ 2.5mg Zyprexa??? » cybercafe, posted by Geezer on June 27, 2003, at 21:31:35
> > > How long have you been on it? Working great I assume?
> >
> > i've been on it for about a year ... and it works really well for bipolar ... unlike valporate, it doesn't make me sleepy all day, doesn't give me tremors, and actually makes my moods stable....
> > oh yeah, doesn't require a blood test either :)
> >
> > for me it's a wonder drug
>
> Does it do anything for the atypical depression that comes with Bipolar II. Hypomanic periods (if I have any) are not a problem - haven't been able to shake the atypical depression for 3 years. Lamictal 350, Prozac 15, and Klonopin 1.5 keeps me alive but not much more. I have tried the other combos.paxil worked for me twice ... then i went to effexor, and it didn't work ... then to parnate and it *did* work (but stopped cuz of ADD)... then to celexa + ritalin and it works but i do attribute quite a bit of the AD effect to ritalin
zyprexa alone definately does not get rid of my depression .... but it helps
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