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Posted by KathyMall on November 8, 2003, at 23:05:42
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by sparkinark on September 26, 2002, at 12:10:44
Ive recently had some of these symptoms and it was terrifying for me.
It started around when i was 7 when i was laying on the couch and all of the sudden everything i heard was loud but i was the only one who could hear that everything was loud and also everything was fast to my eyes. It stopped for atleast 6 years and then it came back when i was sick because of a flu. It was in the middle of the night and i just woked up and i experienced everything i did when i was 7. But this time i could actually descibe it abit more. Every sound i heard, breathing, the wind, people talking seemed louder but only to me. My mind felt like it was racing and i felt different but i didnt know what it felt like. Anything that i saw moving like when im walking or running it would look like im going 2 times faster. It only lasted for like 2mins or as long as 10mins. It happened again 2 nights in a row. But then it stopped. It came back 6 months later when i got a cough.This would only happen in the middle of the night when im sleeping and it would wake me up. The only ways i could make it go away was to talk to someone or turn on the radio and listen.Please if you have experience this please contact me.
Posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 16:49:37
In reply to Re: Lithium Orotate, posted by BarbaraCat on September 13, 2003, at 14:46:24
Hello, I'm new to the board. Read a post of yours from October 22, 2002, while doing a search on hair loss! Became sidetracked from worrying about locks upon reading of your dread of passing the lobster tanks in the grocery store. I didn't know anyone else had a difficult time with this sort of thing. I've learned that when my already too attuned awareness of suffering and possible cruelty to animals, especially, is beginning to peak and torment me that a mega black emotional episode approacheth. Actually, I would welcome something that could numb me enough, short of dying, that is, that could diminish the sadness haunting my life over the plight of animals. Have 6 dogs and 1 cat, my children. Thanks to your post, I have a beginner's grasp of what a "mixed state" is. I've seldom, except on speed briefly 30 years ago, experienced anything like the euphoria commonly associated with bipolar, but what you talk about definitely sounds like my experience. Hope you and yours are happy and well, apologies for referencing comments so ancient you probably have moved on and forgotten them!
Kind regards and hope this isn't too much of a downer.
Posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 17:30:24
In reply to Hypersensitivity to suffering » BarbaraCat, posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 16:49:37
HI,
I can definitely relate to the hypersensitivity with animals. I go crazy when I see animals suffer. I hate it. I even sense that animals are suffering when their owners don't take good care of them; like walking them everyday and not giving them enough attention and cuddles. That even drives me CRAZY. Sometimes, I'll go to extraordinary lengths to help an animal. and on the reverse, sometimes I have to stay in oblivion about it, otherwise I'd go mad.
I guess you could say it's related to my mood. It sometimes happens with people too, but rarer.
cheerio-
katia
Posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 19:53:41
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering, posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 17:30:24
katia,
I am grateful you shared your tender feelings for animals in response to my post. Do you think there's something wrong with us, I mean besides depression, that we can't stop noticing suffering? I sometimes have to ask myself, why can't I just get a grip and live with reality the way it is? I wonder if "stable" on meds equates with an ability to accept life on its own (screwed) terms. It's horrible to feel others' pain and know there's little you can do to change it. I'm not really feeling as bleak as this must read at the moment, just reporting on my typical emotional scenario. Love to you and all furry, finned or feathered loved ones. Will write perkier messages soon, I promise.
Posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 22:04:32
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering » katia, posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 19:53:41
Something that has occurred to me over the years, is that this empathy that I feel for animals when suffering and how affected I am by it probably is somewhat of a projection - a reflection for how I'm suffering. It's a way of comforting that aspect in ourselves that we somehow don't do directly or acknowledge. in other words, I don't always have compassion for myself.
I once was crying to my therapist about how lonely these poor little doggies must be and how I can't stand it! She asked me if I was lonely. And yes I was. I think it's (in some part) a reflection of how we're feeling inside projected onto animals.
that's my take on it. Not to mention, some people are just more sensitive than others. and sensitivity's a wonderful thing.
take care,
katia
Posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 22:51:01
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 22:04:32
katia,
I think I can take a cue from your insights and see what I can learn about myself the next time the animal blues hit. Maybe there's important information part of me is trying to communicate to the denser, everyday me that must, I guess, be very comfortable with being dense! Too soon to tell, but will report progress or lack of same. Your comments are very appreciated, thank you for replying.
Posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 23:59:52
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering » katia, posted by moosehaps on November 11, 2003, at 22:51:01
Sure, no problem. Just recently, I broke down crying and had all this compassion for myself enter me. I just sat with it for over an hour crying and being present with that intensity. It was really an amazing experience that I can't put into words, but felt so wonderful and relieving. It wasn't a pity thing. I want to take this as good sign that I'm improving because you know when you're in the thick of suffering and trying to just make it thru' the day the warrior aspect kicks in for me and I don't have it in me to have that compassion for myself or I'll crumble.
food for thought!
take care-
Posted by pixygoth on November 12, 2003, at 7:58:31
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 11, 2003, at 23:59:52
Oh you lovely people, it would be so good if the world could just stop being horrible to everything possible, and then you wouldn't have to feel so bad, about this anyway. I hope y' get better, but of course you won't lose your compassion - that will stick with you as what will turn out to be a great gift. It's hard to see "toomuch" compassion as a good thing, but maybe we can help to balance out the lack of it in others.
love and hugs
S
Posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 14:05:51
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering, posted by pixygoth on November 12, 2003, at 7:58:31
Dear babblers of wise things,
Somehow, contemplation of your comments has shined a light for me into a dark direction I hadn't thought to begin: myself. I came upon a definition of humility that includes, "a perpetual quietness of heart," and to be "in a deep sea of calmness, when all around is seeming trouble." That's kind
of the direction my sails are set now, I think.
My perceptions are no doubt skewed without the above as a foundation.pxygoth - you speak as one whose meds have kicked in nicely, owing to the tone of optimism and support your post reflects! Hope this is truly for the case for you, and thank you for taking the time to post such kind words.
katia - ditto above, and if you have a little time, whenever, could you elaborate on where I might learn more about this warrior aspect, and how to restrain her when "battle stance" is not the appropriate response to our healing selves?
Prospect of crumbling - also not good.For what it's worth, have been on 75mg. Wellbutrin for about 2 weeks and do feel better, but wonder if my poor, fine hair will begin to leave me at some point.
Kind regards to all who read this.
Posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 14:50:09
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia, » pixygoth, posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 14:05:51
Hi Moosehaps! (love the name, where did you think of it??)
Great foundation you're building.as far as what you asked in the below.....I just think it's an individual awareness of what fuels us and hinders us and blah blah blah. All I can say is that to each her own. This aspect of myself took me years to figure out as with everything else including finally getting treatment and a proper diagnosis after years of living in the dark. I'm finally coming to some light. Therapy, self-inquiry, meditation, medication, the usual route to self-discovery....good luck in your own endeavors!
be well,
Katia>>a little time, whenever, could you elaborate on where I might learn more about this warrior aspect, and how to restrain her when "battle stance" is not the appropriate response to our healing selves?
> Prospect of crumbling - also not good.
>
> For what it's worth, have been on 75mg. Wellbutrin for about 2 weeks and do feel better, but wonder if my poor, fine hair will begin to leave me at some point.
>
> Kind regards to all who read this.
>
Posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 17:36:29
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia, » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 14:50:09
katia,
moosehaps occurred to me when I read about an unfortunate mishap (non-lethal) involving a moose and a vehicle at a road crossing. Incidentally, have we not a single "Brooke" or "Brook" babbling on this board?!As the light of day grows shorter, I'm going to be retiring to the shadows (which sounds more glamorous than "hanging all day without getting dressed" because I'm thinking deep thoughts) for some very overdue introspection and consideration of ideas gleaned from you, pixygoth and the many thoughtful contributors on this board.
Have you ever read about a mythic character named Ereshkigal, who inflicted some very serious PMDD acting out onto those around her, until she decided to really take a look at herself? She had to go underground, (to hell, you might say), physically and psychologically, before she could recognize her own hand in her troubles. I must do as E.
I sense your strength of purpose in how you're undertaking to make a new life for yourself, and am similarly inspired to get busy reconstructing my own.
I will keep you and all who babble here in my heart.
Posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 18:07:52
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia, » katia, posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 17:36:29
> katia,
> moosehaps occurred to me when I read about an unfortunate mishap (non-lethal) involving a moose and a vehicle at a road crossing. Incidentally, have we not a single "Brooke" or "Brook" babbling on this board?!
>
> As the light of day grows shorter, I'm going to be retiring to the shadows (which sounds more glamorous than "hanging all day without getting dressed" because I'm thinking deep thoughts) for some very overdue introspection and consideration of ideas gleaned from you, pixygoth and the many thoughtful contributors on this board.
>
> Have you ever read about a mythic character named Ereshkigal, who inflicted some very serious PMDD acting out onto those around her, until she decided to really take a look at herself? She had to go underground, (to hell, you might say), physically and psychologically, before she could recognize her own hand in her troubles. I must do as E.
>
> I sense your strength of purpose in how you're undertaking to make a new life for yourself, and am similarly inspired to get busy reconstructing my own.
>
> I will keep you and all who babble here in my heart.** You write so poetically. I do love the name Moosehaps. It makes me think of blundering sweet Moose who has good intentions, but always seems to get himself in trouble. Hmmmm an idea for a children's story. I wonder if you mind if I use it? I"m taking a children's story writing course. Babbling Brooke is a good name for this board. I haven't heard of that Ereshkigal character, but will look her up.
By the way, what is your "diagnosis" and what meds are you on?
katia
Posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 19:12:07
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia, » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 18:07:52
katia,
Please incorporate Moosehaps into your story, it couldn't be preserved in any better way. By the way, reading childrens' stories in the book stores always reduces me to a blubbering, tearful excuse for a warrior, because they're so incredibly tender! To this day I cannot read through "The Velveteen Rabbit" without losing it.I've been depressed since grade school (but not non-stop) and remember when everything turned gray, lost its color, in the 9th grade, for a few years. No psych doc, just a genial gp willing to go along, so far, with SSRI's I've wanted to try. But the leg work, as far as research into what to try or do, has been up to me. I take 75mg of Wellbutrin since starting October 30. The mixed states dx is definitely on the list of items I need to follow up on.
If you're in a good place, Ereshkigal will probably just bum you out! I'd forget about her if I had writing talent like you, that you're
cultivating in your writing class!I wish you much joy in your creative endeavors and would be delighted to read of any progress you care to share.
Take care, my friend, and enjoy the Fall.
Posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 19:56:27
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia,, posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 19:12:07
Thanks for the encouragement!
So when did you actually begin meds? And how old are you?
I've also been depressed my whole life practically with some hypomanic times and hypomanic/MIXED! times; but mainly depressed throughout my whole life, interspersed with mixed. I remember being in a depression questioning the meaning of life at age 10. And 14, it all fell to hell for me. I'm 33 and have ONLY recently in the past year begun addressing it with acknowledgment of and medication. Just this past summer that the bipolar dx was revealed. Currently, I'm on 100mg of Lamictal and a tiny bit of Seroquel for sleep.
The Lamictal seems to be working. However, I do get tired very easily and the "working" part is me having quite a solitary lifestyle with no drinking :-( and very minimal social interaction. Otherwise I start spiraling again. Maybe someday I can live my life like a normal person.
take care,
katia
Posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 21:36:54
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- katia, » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 12, 2003, at 19:56:27
katia,
I'm 51 now and began the med search about 7 or 8 years ago, trying many of the trendy ones available. In about 1993 I tried Prozac when I was in a nursing program. I remember an all-pervading background noise going on when I tried to talk to anyone or listen to a lecture. After the lecture I would ask a classmate what it was about and they'd say, "you were here! didn't you hear what was said?" Truth: no; I couldn't attend to the message. I'd have to record the lecture and go home to listen to it to understand what was said. I couldn't make conversation with people because the racket in my head was louder than their speech. I'd try to GUESSS what they were saying to come up with some sort of coherent response. I thought I must be losing my mind. Anyway, all that to say I now wonder if that was an instance of an SSRI tipping someone into mania.
The classic descriptions of mania in bipolar disorder make it sound like the person is incredibly high, happy and out to jump into bed with everyone they meet! This doesn't sound at all like the "fun" I had on Prozac. Wish I knew more to say on this, but know very little at this point.Would like to ask: does drinking really smooth you out well, mood-wise? I ask because I suspect my severely alcoholic mom is/was bipolar and alcohol was more important to her than any of us. I just get a roaring headache and compounded depression after drinking.
Also, do you begin projects with wild enthusiam and quickly run out of interest once the "storm" has passed? Just wondering, feel free to ignore any questions that are boring for you to consider or report on!
Here's to beautiful thoughts coming to stay with us and never leave!
Posted by katia on November 13, 2003, at 0:31:29
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- » katia, posted by moosehaps on November 12, 2003, at 21:36:54
Hi,
yes about the projects....once inspiration leaves so does motivation. and then depression sets in and I think "what an idiot I was to think that I'm capable of ANYTHING in life" and can't finish the project.
There's a great book I'm reading all about the underdiagnosed bipolar spectrum disorders "Why Your Depression Isn't Getting Better". If you have questions about your own dx, I'd start there.It's also said that bipolars also (in most cases) have a substance abuse problem; as a way of self-medicating. And there's NO way alcohol evens out your mood; it's in fact a vicious cycle, one feeding off the other making each worse. Sure it feels GREATTTTT in the moment, but that's all it does positive.
food for thought.
I know I feel much better since quitting drinking (it's been about 5 weeks). But not a day doesn't go by the I don't crave and salivate and fantasize for a nice red.
katia
Posted by moosehaps on November 13, 2003, at 10:34:02
In reply to Re: Hypersensitivity to suffering- » moosehaps, posted by katia on November 13, 2003, at 0:31:29
katia,
Yes! I'll start hunting down the book you're reading today. Also, 5 weeks voluntary abstinence from any substance that makes you feel great, but you know is not helping overall, speaks volumes about your determination and will to succeed.
You are very brave.As for myself, I say today, ONWARD! OFF OF THIS COUCH!
Have a good day!
Posted by katia on November 24, 2003, at 17:59:52
In reply to Naturopath visit results, please read, posted by BarbaraCat on August 22, 2003, at 22:11:59
Hi Barbara!
Are you alive? Hope everything is ok with you. You've been gone quite awhile.
So, it's been some time since you got your hormones tested and got that cream. Have you noticed a difference? I realize you are in a different boat with the age difference than I am. But I'm going to get mine tested too.
just wondered how you fared with it all.
Hope you're well.
Katia
> Time will tell if this will make the difference in my moods but according to my naturopath, there's no way I could be this hormonally unbalanced and NOT be one hurtin' unit. My psych meds are holding me together in the meantime and addressing the symptoms, but not the underlying hormonal imbalance. The more I research, the more convinced I am that this whole HPA-axis disregulation affects all our hormones and THIS is the place we should be looking to solve our mental mysteries. After all, hormones are our 'chemical messengers' and this means neurochemical messengers as well! There are SO MANY hormonal disrupters in our environment that it would be amazing if any of us were A-OK in that department.
>
> So, dear friends, I lovingly and strongly suggest to you to get some really good hormonal testing done. Forget your primary care docs unless they're really really unique. They're good mechanics at broken bones and such but lousy at health. Forget endocrinologists, OB/gyn's, or pdocs. They are tunnel-visioned specialists and can't put the pieces together between hormones, moods and lasting wellness. If you know of a very GOOD naturopath, go there (many of them are inept). If you need a suggestion for a holistically oriented physician, try www.acam.org. However you find a good whole body/mind health professional who knows hormones, do yourself a big favor and make it happen.
>
> I'm very relieved that more pieces of the puzzle are fitting together after YEARS of sleuthing but so damned PISSED at the majority of well-intentioned clueless medical professionals who think they're helping us get well. Drug companies fund the research, the scholarships, the symposiums, the education. No wonder we're taking more drugs and not getting much better.
>
> BTW, this hormonal testing applies to men as well. We all have the same hormones, only in different ratios. - BarbaraCat
Posted by KimberlyDi on November 25, 2003, at 9:35:25
In reply to Re: Naturopath visit results, please read » BarbaraCat, posted by katia on November 24, 2003, at 17:59:52
Just a note:
I ended up with a holistic doctor who immediately wanted to rule out hormonal problems causing the depression. In many cases it is. In my case, it wasn't. I would recommend having the testing done to rule out hormonal imbalances as a cause. But be prepared to leave as I did, no closer to finding answers or a cure.
> Hi Barbara!
> Are you alive? Hope everything is ok with you. You've been gone quite awhile.
> So, it's been some time since you got your hormones tested and got that cream. Have you noticed a difference? I realize you are in a different boat with the age difference than I am. But I'm going to get mine tested too.
> just wondered how you fared with it all.
> Hope you're well.
> Katia
> > Time will tell if this will make the difference in my moods but according to my naturopath, there's no way I could be this hormonally unbalanced and NOT be one hurtin' unit. My psych meds are holding me together in the meantime and addressing the symptoms, but not the underlying hormonal imbalance. The more I research, the more convinced I am that this whole HPA-axis disregulation affects all our hormones and THIS is the place we should be looking to solve our mental mysteries. After all, hormones are our 'chemical messengers' and this means neurochemical messengers as well! There are SO MANY hormonal disrupters in our environment that it would be amazing if any of us were A-OK in that department.
> >
> > So, dear friends, I lovingly and strongly suggest to you to get some really good hormonal testing done. Forget your primary care docs unless they're really really unique. They're good mechanics at broken bones and such but lousy at health. Forget endocrinologists, OB/gyn's, or pdocs. They are tunnel-visioned specialists and can't put the pieces together between hormones, moods and lasting wellness. If you know of a very GOOD naturopath, go there (many of them are inept). If you need a suggestion for a holistically oriented physician, try www.acam.org. However you find a good whole body/mind health professional who knows hormones, do yourself a big favor and make it happen.
> >
> > I'm very relieved that more pieces of the puzzle are fitting together after YEARS of sleuthing but so damned PISSED at the majority of well-intentioned clueless medical professionals who think they're helping us get well. Drug companies fund the research, the scholarships, the symposiums, the education. No wonder we're taking more drugs and not getting much better.
> >
> > BTW, this hormonal testing applies to men as well. We all have the same hormones, only in different ratios. - BarbaraCat
>
>
Posted by ctor on November 25, 2003, at 19:10:48
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by ELENI4 on June 23, 2003, at 15:42:48
> I have the same thing, and like you no one truly understands what I'm talking about when I try to explain it further. They either ask, "You hear voices?" or say, "so you mind is racing?" My answer is always, "No, I do not hear voices, though I do tend to hear music, often with lyrics. My mind does race, but it's not just that. It's almost like an inner dialogue. It's really tough to explain. Has anyone been able to rid themselves of this with meds, and if so, what meds? I'd absolutely LOVE to know. I took Lithium briefly to stabilize my moods, but developed "metal mouth" and decided the metallic taste was too bothersome to continue. I guess that's another question. If someone out there has taken Lithium and also developed metal mouth, does it go away? I was only on a very low dose of 300mg and the taste came on after only three to five days.
>Coincidences are sometimes so funny :) I'm here right now because I forgot to take my meds and so I noticed I couldn't sleep. I went to the web to search for a sentence I remember I've read somewhere ("your mind has always been this noisy") and got here. Informative thread, I'm not alone!! :)
The worst mind noise I'm experiencing is my own voice inside my head going on and on, trying to figure things out and also plan ahead.
I believe what's happening for me is simply a case of unsorted information overflow, giving rise to lots and LOTS of confusion and thoughts. This all happened to me through the use of psychedelic drugs which opened up my senses, and then meeting my ex-girlfriend who turned out to be quite a depressive and psychotic person.
When adding Zoloft into the equation, things got better, the neural activation seemed to stay longer and more of my thoughts started making sense again, I was able to focus better 'n so.
But what has really made a big difference is a small dose of Risperdal. The bad thing about it is that I'm often feeling emotionally numb (compared to a year ago, but not compared to before I started using psychdelics). However the magnitude of my feelings now seem to be closely related to where I put my focus. Without Risperdal, controlling where to put my focus was very hard, my mind seemed to value some things higher than others, and many thoughts were disrupted because I couldn't get a really clear focus of almost anything except for the feelings of other people - where my perception has grown immensely. I'm also experiencing some sort of ESP around this, and I've started to explore some aspects of healing here, but I'm not really sure what's going on.
What's also new in my head is that I can see geometric objects or formations of objects, often moving, along with thoughts I'm having. It's dependent on how clearly I understand the subject, and to my focus to the mental visual effects. When combined with me being physically very close to another human being, the objects are more colorful.
All of these extra dynamics in my psyche has become much less intrusive since I've started using Risperdal. I've been taking 1mg/day for about a month now.
I feel I have a lot more to learn about the drugs effects, but so far it's really made my practical life a whole lot easier. Not quite sure how to tackle the emotional aspect though, but I do believe it will all go over once enough of the unsorted information has been sorted. When possible, I'm trying to minimize my impressions and just let my thoughts rise. Also I'm listening more to slow 'n soft music now, to see if that helps in relaxing my attitude towards all this inner chaos.
I would love to hear more about peoples experiences with this "mind noise", have you thought about how it works for you?
Posted by SandyWeb on November 25, 2003, at 20:39:48
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise » ELENI4, posted by ctor on November 25, 2003, at 19:10:48
I don't know if I have the same type of "mind noise" as you, but I hear my own voice talking inside my head as well. Sometimes it will just be talking and talking about events that have happened, events that are to happen, making plans, going over ideas...well, you get it....my voice just keeps going on and on, like the Energizer bunny!
I will also have conversations with another voice, who is presumably me as well. The voice will be either male or female, and it will make a comment or ask a question. And immediately, my voice will respond. And then immediately, after my voice has responded, the other voice will respond. And I just listen to these "people" conversing in my head....both who are me...although I'm just the observer, so to speak.
It's very odd how the brain works.
Once I began Neurontin, that aspect of my though process went away. I know it's still there, but the dosage is high enough to keep it at bay. Now my thoughts are just normal, every-day events.....my head is much quieter. And I'm relieved.
SandyWeb
Posted by katia on November 26, 2003, at 14:19:36
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by SandyWeb on November 25, 2003, at 20:39:48
how much neurontin are you on? Is it for sleep? or aiding your mood swings?
Posted by SandyWeb on November 29, 2003, at 19:24:51
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise » SandyWeb, posted by katia on November 26, 2003, at 14:19:36
> how much neurontin are you on? Is it for sleep? or aiding your mood swings?
---------------------Hi Katia,
I am taking 1600mg/day....800mg in the morning, and 800mg at supper.
I would never be able to sleep on Neurontin. It actually makes me more awake. In fact, whenever I increase the dose, I have to only do it in 100mg increments because I get very speedy for a few hours!!! By the next day, I'm adjusted to the new dose. But it never makes me sleepy.
Actually, I take the Neurontin for social anxiety. But it absolutely helps with mood swings and all types of irrational thought processes. I really don't know how it works, but I'm pleased with the results?
Are you taking Neurontin?
SandyWeb
Posted by dms777smd on November 30, 2003, at 13:06:08
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by SandyWeb on November 25, 2003, at 20:39:48
I know exactly what you're talking about.Sometimes I want to get in on the conversation it gets so bad.LOL! But anyway,I had some really weird shit happen one time.I used to be very bad with the alcohol and sometimes would actually go into the DTs from not having any(very dangerous)but one time I felt very normal but started hearing this song when I was trying to go to sleep.I thought my friend was in my brother's room playing the guitar with the 4 track recorder cause there was like 3 guitars to what I heard,but I went to check it out(cause the song sounded so good)but no one was there.I then went to the garage,nothing.I went outside,nothing.But the same beautiful song was going through my head.I was really hearing this!!!So the only thing left to do was learn the damn song.So I got my guitar and learned what I heard in my head,all three guitars(kinda hard when you can't start it over when you want to).I still remember that song today,and For some reason,it still sounds very good to me.It just goes to show you,you're mind can do some great shit when you're not in control of it.When you're not thinking too hard.LOL But I'm just wondering,,,,,how did I hear that song in my head so clear????? If anyone has something like that,please respond,,,,,,,OK?
Posted by katia on November 30, 2003, at 14:51:10
In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise » katia, posted by SandyWeb on November 29, 2003, at 19:24:51
> Hi Katia,
>
> I am taking 1600mg/day....800mg in the morning, and 800mg at supper.
>
> I would never be able to sleep on Neurontin. It actually makes me more awake. In fact, whenever I increase the dose, I have to only do it in 100mg increments because I get very speedy for a few hours!!! By the next day, I'm adjusted to the new dose. But it never makes me sleepy.
>
> Actually, I take the Neurontin for social anxiety. But it absolutely helps with mood swings and all types of irrational thought processes. I really don't know how it works, but I'm pleased with the results?
>
> Are you taking Neurontin?
>
> SandyWeb
>
HI Sandy,
I take it occasionally for sleep (900mg). A lot of people take it for sleep (or so I thought). It's interesting that it gives you that energized reaction.
But it really doesn't knock me out like Seroquel does. So who knows maybe it's not working.
katia
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