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Posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
OK, it all started last Tuesday. Until then everything was fine- my depression, anxiety, derealization...
Last Tuesday morning I awoke early and watched a documentry on Jeffrey Dahmer (i am doing forensics next year at uni) After watching this video, almost, immediately, I started to slide....first into depression, that my horrible derealization annxiety....I'm not sure if this video was causative but its been a week and I'm getting really bad
It feels as if My Nardil has pooped out....I'm having anxiety feelings all the time and need more Xanax.
Im really not sure it was the video- ive seen worse stuff before and it doesn't last this long.
I need help now
I have some spare drugs in my room
Should I augment with Lamictal????Please any suggestions....
Either this is a breakthrough anxiety /deppresive period that will pass or I'm in big trouble...
Ace
Posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 20:41:50
In reply to I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
try sleep deprivation while taking the med you're on.
Posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 21:01:14
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 20:41:50
> try sleep deprivation while taking the med you're on.
can you please explain further...go a day with out nardil and stay awake all night then restart Nardil??? this works for you?
Thanks so much mate,
Ace
Posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 21:04:22
In reply to I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
you know what's uncanny... ed mentioned nardil to linkadge a load of times recently and I was going to say... you're starting to sound like ace. then you show up. Then there was this time I was thinking about green tea, wrote a post and used the drop box to put it in alternatives...and then when I checked out the board..linkadge has a post in there about theanine....finally there's lamictal.. it seems to be coming up a lot lately...strange coincidences.
Just take it easy. Do something stimulating ( once upon a time someone suggested to me - look at a bunch of porn even if you don't feel like it, when I was feeling really anhedonic ). There are other things of course, you could go out for a quick run or something. Besides starting the lamictal with what you're taking, the only other thing I can think of is sleep deprivation.
There is caffeine ( the only other substance ) but you might feel dragged out and even worse if you try that. I know I have.
Posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 21:07:54
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS! » lostforwards, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 21:01:14
I've never taken nardil. I know that sleep deprivation works for depression, whether it be just a general blah or the real thing. If it's a temporary dip you're experiencing, then a night of sleep deprivation might get you out of it. Don't stop your medication. Sleep deprivation is temporary, but it might be all you need.
Posted by smith562 on November 28, 2004, at 21:26:26
In reply to I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
Hey ACE,
I have read your posts for months and you probably know me ... I am the other "nardil king". I have been on nardil off and on for 7 years ... the best thing I did was add 450 of lithium to the nardil and then decrease the nardil dose until I could sleep 8 hours a night. Don't waste 7 years of your life like I did ... add some lithium and get euthymic. I was mildly hypomanic on nardil for 7 years and life was great, but you don't make any real friends.
Smith
Posted by Peddidle on November 28, 2004, at 21:51:31
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 21:07:54
You really find that sleep deprivation works for depression? I always think that it makes me feel more "down.".....maybe that's just me.
Posted by tom_traubert on November 28, 2004, at 22:18:22
In reply to I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
Sounds like anxiety from the Dahmer tape triggered it, you bet. No coincidence there, that's some really disturbing stuff. Maybe thinking about Dahmer triggered a very strong fear about losing control, possibly suffering the same fate as him, turning into something that frightens you. Enough to send your anxiety through the roof and exacerbate all your other symptoms.
Sleep deprivation has always been a bad idea for me when anxious, makes me more jumpy.
I'm really sorry you're going through this, ace.
Hang in there, we're here for you,
tt
Posted by maddog on November 28, 2004, at 23:03:35
In reply to I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by ace on November 28, 2004, at 20:26:36
> OK, it all started last Tuesday. Until then everything was fine- my depression, anxiety, derealization...
>
> Last Tuesday morning I awoke early and watched a documentry on Jeffrey Dahmer (i am doing forensics next year at uni) After watching this video, almost, immediately, I started to slide....first into depression, that my horrible derealization annxiety....I'm not sure if this video was causative but its been a week and I'm getting really bad
>
> It feels as if My Nardil has pooped out....I'm having anxiety feelings all the time and need more Xanax.
>
> Im really not sure it was the video- ive seen worse stuff before and it doesn't last this long.
>
> I need help now
>
> I have some spare drugs in my room
>
>
> Should I augment with Lamictal????
>
> Please any suggestions....
>
> Either this is a breakthrough anxiety /deppresive period that will pass or I'm in big trouble...
>
>
> Ace
>Ace,
This sounds like a temporary lull. I don't think jumping onto another medication is the right thing to do.
Try changing your state of mind by doing something pleasurable that you have not done before or have not done for a long time. Rent some new videos, or some old favorites. Try a new sport.
I find that, understandably, solutions on this board are very drug-biased. However, everyone experiences short-term periods of minor depression or anxiety due to bad events.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.
maddog
Posted by lostforwards on November 29, 2004, at 6:28:52
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS! » lostforwards, posted by Peddidle on November 28, 2004, at 21:51:31
I've heard that it helps for depression. A night of it may increase dopamine levels the next day.
It wasn't for depression when I tried it. It defintely elavated my mood - significantly when I was off conventional meds and on alternatives.
I would not recommend anybody quit their meds.I guess it can work the other way too. One slightly odd thing I experienced was subtle perceptual changes. They weren't disturbing, I just felt a little different.
Posted by ace on November 29, 2004, at 20:11:47
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by tom_traubert on November 28, 2004, at 22:18:22
> Sounds like anxiety from the Dahmer tape triggered it, you bet.
Absolutely. That and also a combination of dropping my Xanax dose.
No coincidence there, that's some really disturbing stuff. Maybe thinking about Dahmer triggered a very strong fear about losing control, possibly suffering the same fate as him, turning into something that frightens you.Whenever I am really depressed I focus on Dahmer, but no other serial killers...for some reason I feel sorry for that man, as he killed not out of hate, apologized to victims, and was somewhat naive. But obviously one cannot even imagine condoning his acts.
I think I should stay away from negative topics!
Enough to send your anxiety through the roof and exacerbate all your other symptoms.I agree- good insight
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> Sleep deprivation has always been a bad idea for me when anxious, makes me more jumpy.It can make me high or jumpy.
>
> I'm really sorry you're going through this, ace.Thanks so much brother.
>
> Hang in there, we're here for you,
>
> ttI'm better now (read post below) but God Bless you for your help friend,
Andrew (ACE)
Posted by ace on November 29, 2004, at 20:16:43
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS!, posted by maddog on November 28, 2004, at 23:03:35
Guys, I am better now!!!!!!
I believe it was a combination of both the video and also me dropping my Xanax dose down....now I'm feeling cool as ever!
I upped my Nardil to 90mg and Xanax back up to 2-4mg/day.
I have had enough negative stuff in my life- I have to stay away from any more...it's common sense.
All you guys rule!Ace
Nardil ChampNardil- 90
Zyprexa- 2.5
Xanax- 2-4mg
Posted by Peddidle on November 29, 2004, at 20:24:22
In reply to Re: The NARDIL CHAMP PULLS THROUGH!!!!!!!!, posted by ace on November 29, 2004, at 20:16:43
It definitely sounds like you're doing well, Ace. Congrats!!
Posted by ace on November 29, 2004, at 21:11:00
In reply to Re: The NARDIL CHAMP PULLS THROUGH!!!!!!!!, posted by Peddidle on November 29, 2004, at 20:24:22
> It definitely sounds like you're doing well, Ace. Congrats!!
Thanks heaps bro!!! And when you are down, let me know ASAP!Your mate,
Ace
Posted by tom_traubert on November 29, 2004, at 23:44:26
In reply to Re: I'm in trouble- really scared...HELP GUYS! » tom_traubert, posted by ace on November 29, 2004, at 20:11:47
Happy to hear you're feeling better, ace, knew you would.
tt
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