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Posted by Damos on February 7, 2005, at 19:19:56
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 7, 2005, at 11:08:57
Hi Marg, yep the itching is pertty common. Fortunately mine is mainly on the forearms and backs of the hands (don't know how I would have coped with itchy feet like Jigitykid!). I'm actually at home today as the dizziness got really bad (had a couple of accidental meetings with walls at work yesterday), and just couldn't walk in a straight line. We have an expression in Oz called "having your wobbly boots on", and even though I'm barefoot at the moment mine are really groovin'. Good luck and God bless.
Posted by Damos on February 7, 2005, at 19:42:22
In reply to Re: Ever tried cold turkey?, posted by Laura Lynn on February 7, 2005, at 13:41:32
G'Day Laura,
It sure is a blessing and a relief to find this place isn't it. Welcome! I'm at home today too - actually having a lot of trouble even hitting the right keys consistently. I can only reiterate some of the things Jiggitykid has said about being careful about driving (especially at night), I made a conscious decision not to until I'm sure all the flickering lights and sensations of movement in the corners of my eyes have gone. Not to mention the zapps, the dizziness etc, etc. Fun isn't it. And to think my partner still thinks the whole thing is BS. Luckily my bosses are great (and already thought I was a fruit bat anyway).
One of the best things I done in the last couple of years has been to see an energetic healer (kinesiologist) on a regular basis. She is intuitive and empathetic and wonderful. I don't claim to understand what she does but I know it really works for me. I've also found Tai Chi great (I'm lousy at it just for he record), Pinnochio would be an appropriate image. I've also expereimented with some Australian Bush Flower Essences which you blend and put about 4 drops under your tongue every few hours or so. Pretty sure you could get these over then net, and I knew from the first few drop that the blend I had was right for me. If anyone wants to know more you can babble-mail me and we can talk more. Right now I think I'm going to go and fall down somewhere before I drop of my perch.
Take care and good luck, you're in my thoughts.
Posted by Marg on February 8, 2005, at 3:24:32
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Damos on February 7, 2005, at 19:19:56
Hiya Damos,
I think the ironic thing is the withdrawal symptom can end up making you more depressed than you were to start with!My forarms itch too along with my wrists, palms and soles of my feet!!
I should be too bad today as I took a tablet yesterday but I'm not looking forward to tomorrow.Hope you're not too bruised from wearing your wobbly boots.
Take care
Marg
BTW I'm in the UK
Posted by Damos on February 8, 2005, at 4:32:39
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl - I did it, so can you » jbc, posted by Jiggitykid on February 7, 2005, at 16:14:09
Thanks Jiggitykid, that's the biggest laugh I've had in years. Somehow I don't think the sacramental stuff would be the recommended first drop on a wine appreciation course. My ever so "Churchy" mother would have been apoplectic, but I'm sure I gave her enough grief as it was.
Take care everyone, you're all in my thoughts.
Posted by brainshiver on February 8, 2005, at 11:25:16
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl - I did it, so can you » jbc, posted by Jiggitykid on February 7, 2005, at 16:14:09
Hi there. On Saturday I began cutting my Effexor dose in half. Instead of 150mg, I am taking 75mg. I called in sick yesterday to work, but I'm at work right now, and I'm feeling worse today than yesterday. I plan to be on this dose for a month and then taper again or go off completely. What I'm wondering is how long the withdrawal symptoms are.... I'm super-shaky, nauseous, going from too hot to shaking because I'm so cold. Should I expect to miss any more work? How are all you guys doing? And what are you doing to keep your mind off how awful you feel? Man, I feel like crap!
Posted by ed_uk on February 8, 2005, at 12:31:12
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 8, 2005, at 3:24:32
Hi Marg,
I didn't realise that you live in the UK, so do I :-) I'm from West Yorkshire!
Efexor doesn't come in 37.5 mg capsules in the UK. It does come in 37.5mg tablets though- I suppose that is what you are taking.
Are you going to cut the tablets in half to reduce the dose gradually?
Ed.
Posted by Marg on February 8, 2005, at 14:01:47
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Marg, posted by ed_uk on February 8, 2005, at 12:31:12
Hiya Ed
I'm in East Yorkshire LOLI've decided to stay as I am for now as the 2nd day without a tablet is getting slightly easier, so I'm going to see if I get used to that. I'm going to see the doc and tell him how I'm going to do it so will need to be put back on repeat scripts.
Only getting SP on the 2nd pill free day and so far not as bad as they used to be before AD's but if they continue or get worse will have to have a rethink about coming off the AD's.
Depends on what the doc says really.
Will keep you posted.
Take care and thanks!
Marg
Posted by Damos on February 8, 2005, at 15:27:42
In reply to going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW!, posted by brainshiver on February 8, 2005, at 11:25:16
Hi Brainshiver, luckily I didn't have too much trouble when I dropped the dosages down apart from the zapps and the odd spin-out or two. This only ever lasted a couple of days though. I hit problems doing 75mg every other day which seemed to really screw up my system, so I stopped completely on Sunday.
While I can't remember anyone else mentioning the hot and cold problem you're having I've had a similar experience when recovering from the treatment for a couple of life threatening allergic reactions (big injections of antihistamine, cortisone and adrenalin). Swinging from way, way too hot to way, way too cold about every ten minutes or so. That usually lasted 24 hours and the next day was like having been run over by a fleet of steam-rollers, repeatedly! Sorry to say but the day after that was usually pretty lousy too. I'm actually surpirsed you feel as good as crap - but you're probably just being polite for our sakes.
Best thing I can suggest is that you take the time to read all the posts as experiences differ considerably as do the chosen strategy for quitting, from Jiggitykid's dive from the 10m tower with a 3.8 degree of difficulty (Greg Luganis eat your heart out) to others who have dipped their toes in the shallow end then paddled for a bit taking it real slow. I think you've got a fair idea of how your body deals with sudden changes.
How do I cope? One day at a time. Just knowing there are all these truly wonderful people out there going through it too helps a hell of a lot too.
Take good care of yourself.
Posted by Maxime on February 8, 2005, at 20:52:59
In reply to going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW!, posted by brainshiver on February 8, 2005, at 11:25:16
Hi. I think maybe you reduced it too much. You might want to bring it up again. You can taper every week in small amounts rather than large amounts over a longer period. It ends up being the same in terms of time, but it's gentler on your system.
Maxime
> Hi there. On Saturday I began cutting my Effexor dose in half. Instead of 150mg, I am taking 75mg. I called in sick yesterday to work, but I'm at work right now, and I'm feeling worse today than yesterday. I plan to be on this dose for a month and then taper again or go off completely. What I'm wondering is how long the withdrawal symptoms are.... I'm super-shaky, nauseous, going from too hot to shaking because I'm so cold. Should I expect to miss any more work? How are all you guys doing? And what are you doing to keep your mind off how awful you feel? Man, I feel like crap!
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 8, 2005, at 22:01:24
In reply to Re: going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW!, posted by Damos on February 8, 2005, at 15:27:42
LOL! I love the analogy. My biggest problem with my dive is that the pool was empty and I slammed into the concrete :-).
Take care!
> Hi Brainshiver, luckily I didn't have too much trouble when I dropped the dosages down apart from the zapps and the odd spin-out or two. This only ever lasted a couple of days though. I hit problems doing 75mg every other day which seemed to really screw up my system, so I stopped completely on Sunday.
>
> While I can't remember anyone else mentioning the hot and cold problem you're having I've had a similar experience when recovering from the treatment for a couple of life threatening allergic reactions (big injections of antihistamine, cortisone and adrenalin). Swinging from way, way too hot to way, way too cold about every ten minutes or so. That usually lasted 24 hours and the next day was like having been run over by a fleet of steam-rollers, repeatedly! Sorry to say but the day after that was usually pretty lousy too. I'm actually surpirsed you feel as good as crap - but you're probably just being polite for our sakes.
>
> Best thing I can suggest is that you take the time to read all the posts as experiences differ considerably as do the chosen strategy for quitting, from Jiggitykid's dive from the 10m tower with a 3.8 degree of difficulty (Greg Luganis eat your heart out) to others who have dipped their toes in the shallow end then paddled for a bit taking it real slow. I think you've got a fair idea of how your body deals with sudden changes.
>
> How do I cope? One day at a time. Just knowing there are all these truly wonderful people out there going through it too helps a hell of a lot too.
>
> Take good care of yourself.
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 8, 2005, at 22:15:55
In reply to going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW!, posted by brainshiver on February 8, 2005, at 11:25:16
Hi Brainshiver - love the name!
Since I took the high dive :-), I can't tell you from my experience how long the symptoms will last. Cold-turkey, the worst were over in two weeks, with more going away over the next few weeks to few months. It's been a little over a year now, thank goodness.
As for the hot and cold, that's part and parcel of the withdrawal. For me, when the pain was worse, I had to wrap up, hot or cold.
Coping - prayer, support from my family, and this group of people who were here to help me through it. There wasn't anything, during the first part of the withdrawal, that was able take my mind off of how I felt. I hope that doesn't make you feel too bad - just take it one day at a time. In fact, take it one hour, or minute, at a time, and try not to think about how you'll feel tomorrow or next week. Simply cope with right now. That's the way I had to take it, and that helped by not getting my hopes up that tomorrow would be a better day (even though it will).
Take care of yourself, and get as much rest as possible. Take it easy on your eyes; keep as comfortable as you can; take vitamins, drink water; take it easy with caffeine until you know whether it hurts or helps; sleep with the light on if the dreams get too bad, go for comfort food if that helps :-); put off any really major decisions if you can because, if you are like me, your emotions will be more volatile and less trustworthy right now; try Benedryl (at night if it makes you sleepy during the day); do whatever you can to keep things as easy and calm around you. Keep us updated!
> Hi there. On Saturday I began cutting my Effexor dose in half. Instead of 150mg, I am taking 75mg. I called in sick yesterday to work, but I'm at work right now, and I'm feeling worse today than yesterday. I plan to be on this dose for a month and then taper again or go off completely. What I'm wondering is how long the withdrawal symptoms are.... I'm super-shaky, nauseous, going from too hot to shaking because I'm so cold. Should I expect to miss any more work? How are all you guys doing? And what are you doing to keep your mind off how awful you feel? Man, I feel like crap!
Posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 6:47:03
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 8, 2005, at 14:01:47
Hi Marg,
>I'm in East Yorkshire LOL
Wow! What a coincidence! I'm from Huddersfield but I'm at uni in Manchester at the moment.
>I've decided to stay as I am for now as the 2nd day without a tablet is getting slightly easier, so I'm going to see if I get used to that.
Hopefully you'll be one of the lucky people that has an easy withdrawal. My withdrawal from Effexor wasn't that bad, it didn't last that long either.
>Only getting SP on the 2nd pill free day and so far not as bad as they used to be before AD's but if they continue or get worse will have to have a rethink about coming off the AD's.
Why did your doctor want you to come off Effexor? Did s/he just want to find out whether you could manage without it?
Good luck,
Ed.
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
In reply to Re: going thru withdrawal RIGHT NOW! » brainshiver, posted by Jiggitykid on February 8, 2005, at 22:15:55
Hi guys. First I want to thank those of you who responded. Wow, it really helps just knowing you guys have made it through this hell.
Still feeling pretty poopy today, but I'm hanging in there!
Man, I sure had some crazy dreams last night. Is that part of the withdrawal, too? And about how long did the crazy dreams persist?
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:56:23
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Marg, posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 6:47:03
Hehe.......well I'm from Liverpool but living in Hull now.
The doctor never said why he wants me off them but I reckon it's just cos I've been on the so long.
What are you studying at uni?
Marg
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:58:08
In reply to Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
Hiya!
What do you mean by "crazy"?
I suffer from sleep paralysis and since tapering of effexor they are returning. Wondering if you are experiencing anything like SP?
Marg
Posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 8:32:31
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:56:23
Hi Marg,
>What are you studying at uni?
Pharmacy.
Ed.
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 8:41:52
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » Marg, posted by ed_uk on February 9, 2005, at 8:32:31
LOL good choice!
Posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 8:51:54
In reply to Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 7:22:41
Yes, the crazy dreams are a big part of the withdrawal. Frankly, I felt like I was dreaming horror movies during part of it. The dreams were so vivid that I was afraid to go to sleep. Keeping a light on at least helped with orientation when I woke up. These lasted for the two weeks and then tapered off.
> Hi guys. First I want to thank those of you who responded. Wow, it really helps just knowing you guys have made it through this hell.
>
> Still feeling pretty poopy today, but I'm hanging in there!
>
> Man, I sure had some crazy dreams last night. Is that part of the withdrawal, too? And about how long did the crazy dreams persist?
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:45:31
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 7:58:08
Hiya. I'm not sure what SP is.... I had a few dreams last night that I remember and all were super vivid. I woke up twice during the night and both times I fell back asleep my crazy dream continued where it left off. By crazy I mean that I remember being scared and feeling out of control. And I mean REALLY feeling it. I don't know how to best describe the experience, but I do know last night's dream experience was not like my usual dream experiences.
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:47:10
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone?? » brainshiver, posted by Jiggitykid on February 9, 2005, at 8:51:54
Yikes! Two weeks?! Ah well, I'll deal. I'm totally going to use your idea of keeping a light on. Thanks!
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:35:51
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone??, posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 9:45:31
http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P2.html#pp
Take a look......does it sound familiar?
Posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:42:56
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms! » ed_uk, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 8:41:52
Just found this.............
Antidepressants: Antidepressants may be prescribed to alleviate the symptoms of hypnagogic hallucinations, cataplexy and sleep paralysis. The multicyclics and SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) are the most commonly prescribed. Side effects can include drowsiness, low libido, and low blood pressure.Would that mean I could stay on them for life?
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 12:30:17
In reply to Re: Crazy dreams, anyone?? » brainshiver, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:35:51
Hi, Marg. I remember experiences like that when I was a child (and how horribly frightened I was), but SP does not describe my experiences or dreams presently.
Posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by Marg on February 9, 2005, at 11:42:56
I'm wondering if anyone is having prolonged memory issues. I, like Jiggitykid have been off this monster drug for just over a year now. I have absolutely no short term memory. Either that or my husband is gaslighting me. ;)
He swears he told me he had to work last night. He said I was looking at him like a cow looking at a new gate. I have absolutely no recollection of him telling me that! And this is not the first incidence of me forgetting something in similar situations.
So, I'm wondering if this could be a lingering effect of the Effexor, or something else.
Posted by brainshiver on February 9, 2005, at 14:06:07
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawal symptoms!, posted by jbc on February 9, 2005, at 12:51:55
Are any of you getting horribly bad headaches when withdrawing? I'll go a couple hours (but no more than that) and then SLAM, holy moly does my head just ACHE.... How long can I expect these? A couple weeks, maybe? It freaks me out because I hardly ever get any headaches so my body just isn't used to dealing with them (which is why I'm pretty damn sure it's a withdrawal symptom).
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