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Posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 1:47:00
In reply to Re: Anyone have their biochemistry evaluated?, posted by Keemo on April 21, 2005, at 10:03:20
> > Just to throw in ... I am now off both anti-depressants Eff-XR and trazodone. I am on a mood stabilizer now. I feel so much better. cf
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> What is a mood stabilizer? Just for future reference and what does it do besides the obvious?
> KeemoIs Depakote one of theses???
Posted by winddancer on April 22, 2005, at 3:12:36
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 1:42:58
StayceeIB,
If you haven't done so yet - try to find someone who will help you evaluate your biochemistry. I'm learning more and more that if NATURAL hormones, and other chemistry are out of balance it can cause all sorts of things like anxiety or depression, heart disease, you name it. Wish I had found someone who knew how to evaluate this for me 10 years ago when I was perimenopausal and started having emotional problems and panic attacks which were better for a few years and came back last year.
I'm just reading this book that makes sense out of all this. You can get the book on Amazon or perhaps your library or used book store: "Natural Hormone Replacement for Women over 45" by Jonathan V. Wright who is director of the Tahoma Clinic in Kent, WA A good read even if you're younger than that and enlightening for men as well. Naturopathic and Homeopathic doctors can help with this or find someone who can. Unfortunately, not all medical insurance covers it - and main stream MD's and therapists do not study about natural remedies, only medical remedies promoted by pharaceutical companies, etc. Knowing what I know now, it might be worth a loan if you can get your health back on track - you sound like I was a year ago and got on all those meds. which probably helped the anxiety in the short term but has messed up so many other things.
Good luck and keep us posted about what you decide to do.
winddancer
Posted by Rhonda Jo on April 22, 2005, at 8:51:31
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 1:42:58
> Hey Staycee here
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> You guys out there as I stare at this botle of Effexor XR 37.5 prescribed yesterday, I am panicing just thinking of taking it.. I am reallly sacred and not sure what to do...Help anyone..I really have bad anxiety attacks as it is and when i think about taking this i get so scared.. Does it really help ?? What costs? also I smoke daily ...will I have a a bad interaction??
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> I have near daily panic attacks .though I stil think they may be my heart but its been a year of them and they come and go so i guess it is anxiety..rgradless now i am afraid to take effexor ..what do I do..?? I am even afraid if I do choose to take it I will choke on the pill..also had badexperience with Zoloft like 7 years ago never took anything again ..i fill rxs but thats as close as ive gotten ..last year i filled lexapro..never even took
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> anyway people help me
> really need advice..obsessing over tis too!
Staycee.........Take the effexor!!It will help you!! I have been taking it for several years and I am doing great! I stopped one time, because I was feeling so much better I thought I didn't need it anymore, my husband and I are scuba divers, with out the drug I had a panic attack everytime I hit the water. I got back on it and I enjoy my diving again.....
Lexapro- my daughter takes it she is doing great!
Zoloft- they should take that "crap" off the market!! I was given that first- I spent 2 days in the bathroom sick. never again.
My wish for you is that you want a good life bad enough to take the steps to get there, courage is not something we have, it is something we do....
when you are feeling better you are going to want a long life and at that time ask for help to stop smoking. I will say a prayer for you.
good luck
RJ
Posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 23:20:34
In reply to ADD, posted by Rhonda Jo on April 22, 2005, at 8:51:31
What were your side effects? I was horribly sick from 2 days of a zoloft trial 9 years ago.. thats why I am rally anti-med ..Repeat I know but really I had a broken had last 2 mos(cast off early this week) and I took one percocet paniked and never took a pain pill again..AND I HAD PAIN! Wish I wasnt scared I really am dying to have a GREAT life ..been along time coming an dnow I am getting older and see I nee dto play an active role butthe med thing i sso scary or is this fear all part of my illness??
?? Lexapro and Effexor what is th ereal diff? as for what they help with? and does lexapro have side effcts too?
Posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 23:22:43
In reply to ADD, posted by Rhonda Jo on April 21, 2005, at 8:11:39
What is the AD effect of Effexor??????????
Posted by Corafree on April 23, 2005, at 2:07:06
In reply to Re: Anyone have their biochemistry evaluated?, posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 1:47:00
My P said Depakote was one of them. cf
Posted by Corafree on April 23, 2005, at 2:33:27
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by StayceeIB on April 22, 2005, at 1:42:58
So sorry, really sorry you are having soooo much anxiety. You really need to get that under control. The only AD I ever took that helped w/ anxiety is Effexor-XR. Did you take it? Did it help? You cannot go on 24/7 anxiety. Someone needs to help you find something to slow what sounds like is out of control. It sounds so bad to me, I worry, do you think maybe you should go to an ER (as much as they are hard to handle)? I don't know what are your circumstances, your age, your support people. Your body is alerting you to a 'stress overload'. You've got to have help to get that awful constant anxiety under control. I pray 37.5 Effexor-XR will help you. If you can take a few days more of this ... this is the one AD for anxiety. I am inclined to suggest a benzo might be necessary for you. Have you given that any thought? You are in my thoughts and prayers, cf
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » StayceeIB, posted by winddancer on April 22, 2005, at 3:12:36
> You can get the book on Amazon or perhaps your library or used book store: "Natural Hormone Replacement for Women over 45" by Jonathan V. Wright
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book, movie, or music without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by Phillipa on April 23, 2005, at 17:00:04
In reply to Re: double double quotes » winddancer, posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
It sounds to me like Stacy you're having the same experiences with the AD'S I did. I only wish they had a blood test to see what would work! Fondly, phillipa
Posted by Corafree on April 23, 2005, at 21:31:45
In reply to Re: double double quotes » winddancer, posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
Dr. Bob, when you say double double quotes I think of ""blah"". To me that looks like double double quotes.
When Winddancer, I guess you call it 'plugged' a book, you were showing an alternative way of posting literature to enable purchase?
So, when she said "Natural Hormone Replacement for Women over 45" by Jonathan V. Wright, that equals one double quote?
And following it up with the following link equals another double quote?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
Equaling double double quotes?
Sorry, I don't know how to insert a link. Typing it in certainly doesn't work.
And, saying double double quotes, to me sounds like, ""blah"", ... so is double double quotes a lay term for this process?
tks cf
Posted by winddancer on April 23, 2005, at 21:48:36
In reply to Re: double double quotes » winddancer, posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
Cool!! I never knew about doing that. I'll use it in the future.
winddancer
Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:49:42
In reply to Re: double double quotes » Dr. Bob, posted by winddancer on April 23, 2005, at 21:48:36
Okay, I want to try it out.
There is a book, ""TELLING YOURSELF THE TRUTH"" by William Backus & Marie Chapian, that is probably the single most helpful book I have ever read.
It is about 'saying you are too weak to do a thing' ... which is not true. It is a 'how to rid yourself of negative thoughts and statements' book, by realizing you are lieing to yourself.
Now will say best wishes and see if this works, cf
Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:56:22
In reply to Re: double double quotes » winddancer, posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
Okay, I want to try it out.
There is a book, ""YOU CAN FEEL GOOD AGAIN"" by Richard Carlson, Ph.D., that my father gave to me before he passed away last year.
I really need to read this book.
Now will say best wishes and see if this works, cf
Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 16:03:55
In reply to Re: double double quotes » Dr. Bob, posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:56:22
I think I am doing this correctly because the double double quotes is linking me to Amazon, but apparently they have neither of these books.
Okay, I see! It says below ...
Sorry, no match at Amazon.
And it will not allow you to uncheck the 'link to Amazon' choice.
Thought one of these would be there. Sorry, cf
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 25, 2005, at 20:54:12
In reply to Re: double double quotes, posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 16:03:55
Posted by winddancer on April 26, 2005, at 0:22:44
In reply to Re: thanks for trying (nm) » Corafree, posted by Dr. Bob on April 25, 2005, at 20:54:12
Hi,
I do not see a link to Amazon. Huh? where am I supposed to find it. The post by cf showed double double quotes but it didn't link me to Amazon, at least as far as I could tell.I guess I don't get it - I thought there would be an indication of a link to the Amazon site, but I see none.
winddancer
Posted by Corafree on April 26, 2005, at 10:47:42
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Dr. Bob, posted by winddancer on April 26, 2005, at 0:22:44
WINDDANCER - I think the reason you didn't see it is because Amazon did not carry either of the books. If you try it, w/ a book they have or don't have, you will see the option to link to it. If you try to link to Amazon with a book they don't have, it won't work ... others will not see it. That's why you don't. Not having a good morn' here, but think that's correct. You've been on my mind. Been meaning to babble you ... will soon. cf
Posted by StayceeIB on April 26, 2005, at 22:03:05
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » StayceeIB, posted by Corafree on April 23, 2005, at 2:33:27
many days later I have nottaken anything..but my daily ativan b4 I sleep tho yesterday no panic attack..I ssee shrink friday not sure what to say? would lexapro help me teh same with less side effctes? I am scaredddddddddddd ofthis effexor. i am not sure I will ever take it!
:(
Posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » winddancer, posted by Corafree on April 26, 2005, at 10:47:42
Thanks,
I'll look for your babble. How do you initiate a babble to someone? I have so far only replied to babbles.
winddancer
Posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 8:55:58
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Corafree, posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
Winddancer:
My life 'isn't' right now ... I'm trying to pull together enough to even babble or post about!
To babble you, I would just double click on your name which is underlined, sort of brown in color, at the top of your post, where it says
Posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
I can't underline your name here, but on your post it is underlined and brown ... that's where you double click. I believe if not brown in color, people don't accept babbling.
Try babbling me, best wishes cf
Posted by Phillipa on April 27, 2005, at 17:52:14
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » winddancer, posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 8:55:58
The name appears blue on my computer if a person is accepting Babblemail, and black if it's turned off. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 18:17:26
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Corafree, posted by Phillipa on April 27, 2005, at 17:52:14
Yep ... I know.
The writing is all purple and your name is blue. I'm thinking as long as the 'clickable name or word' is in a color which contrasts the rest of the writing, it is a link.
Maybe Dr. Bob can better explain.
Ya' got me!
Best Wishes this Weds, cf
Posted by AQUARIAS on April 28, 2005, at 15:39:52
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!!, posted by Kathleen on February 12, 2001, at 23:40:43
I'VE BEEN TAKING EFFEXER XR FOR ONLY 3 DAYS NOW, I TAKE IT AT NIGHT. FROM THE FIRST NIGHT I'VE HAD DULL CONSTANT HEADACHES, RESTLESSNESS, NASUEA,LOSS OF APPETITE, TIREDNESS, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M IN SLOW MOTION. SHOULD I GIVE IT MORE TIME? I DON'T WANTTO WALK AROUND NOT CARING ABOUT ANYTHING. THANKS
Posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 16:15:31
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!!, posted by Lynn V on February 11, 2001, at 0:19:23
Hi,
I have many of the symptoms of fibromyalgia since I've taken Effexor, but it's not been diagnosed. I've never hurt so much all over my body as I do now. And I've stopped taking Effexor for about 3 weeks. The tendonitis in my hands is excrutiating and its extremely painful to write with a pen and very uncomfortable using the computer keyboard and mouse. I even got a mouse glidepoint pad and I haven't seen any improvement. I have had SI (low back) pain and sciatica off and on for about 5 years, but now it is so bad that I finally went in and had cortisone injections along my spine. This is after an MRI shows disc degeneration. I am going in for another MRI on my neck this afternoon, to see if they can find anything causing the hand pain and tingly fingers.
My doctor who administered the spinal cortisone said that low back pain can certainly lead to depression. And my MD and others sometimes dismiss back pain as a symptom of depression and I've heard that often they will treat back pain by prescribing an anti-depressant. Interesting, isn't it.
Winddancer
Posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2005, at 18:18:55
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!! » Lynn V, posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 16:15:31
Be careful of those cortisone injections. I had a friend who got them and one day they missed. I can't remember all the details but she was bedbound. I had a herniated disc and I refused them. It healed on it's own. The only time my back and muscle aches went away was on cymbalta. I didn't realize they were gone until I stopped the med. Fondly, Phillipa
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