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Posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
New med is finally heping me. It was right there all along.
Easier to read than explain, it's not long.
Posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2006, at 11:25:32
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
Ha Ha Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on May 17, 2006, at 11:39:30
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
It looks like a very promising new med. ;-)
Deneb*
Posted by B2chica on May 17, 2006, at 12:51:40
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me » curtm, posted by Deneb on May 17, 2006, at 11:39:30
tell me where to get a script...
b2c.
Posted by Racer on May 17, 2006, at 13:02:05
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
Posted by bassman on May 17, 2006, at 14:07:32
In reply to You've always been a hep-cat (nm) » curtm, posted by Racer on May 17, 2006, at 13:02:05
I hope it doesn't take 4-6 weeks to kick in...:>}
Posted by llrrrpp on May 17, 2006, at 14:47:14
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
Can I get a sample and spike my boss's drink when she's not looking? What's the half-life?
Larry, you can help out with the kinetics of this one can't you? I'm not sure which receptors it binds (agonist/antagonist? 2nd messengers? affects plasticity?) I guess the mechanism is unknown. I do know, however, that it's associated with less frontopolar and cingulate gyrus activation. Also with behavioral changes analogous to EtOH intoxication after a bad break-up.
Posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 14:51:04
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by llrrrpp on May 17, 2006, at 14:47:14
>> I'm not sure which receptors it binds (agonist/antagonist? 2nd messengers? affects plasticity?) I guess the mechanism is unknown. I do know, however, that it's associated with less frontopolar and cingulate gyrus activation. Also with behavioral changes analogous to EtOH intoxication after a bad break-up.
Sometimes I wish I knew what the heck you guys are talking about "^|
Posted by linkadge on May 17, 2006, at 15:30:24
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me » llrrrpp, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 14:51:04
I think it will be available in an extended release formulation soon.
Linkadge
Posted by llrrrpp on May 17, 2006, at 15:37:20
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me » llrrrpp, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 14:51:04
> >> I'm not sure which receptors it binds (agonist/antagonist? 2nd messengers? affects plasticity?) I guess the mechanism is unknown. I do know, however, that it's associated with less frontopolar and cingulate gyrus activation. Also with behavioral changes analogous to EtOH intoxication after a bad break-up.
>
> Sometimes I wish I knew what the heck you guys are talking about "^|
If you care about this pseudo-science nonsense, you obviously haven't reached a therapeutic dose yet. maybe you should increase to 750 mg, or wait for the extended release version. You'll find that this stuff really doesn't matter after all.
Posted by Jost on May 17, 2006, at 16:47:10
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me » llrrrpp, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 14:51:04
Hey, that doesn't work for everyone--and withdrawal is impossible. I've been on high doses for years, and it's not helping... although at least no dietary restrictions.
Jost
Posted by bassman on May 17, 2006, at 17:02:16
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by Jost on May 17, 2006, at 16:47:10
Some people think having a therapist with an AD is a real advantage. For this med, how about one that, to every thing you say, says, "do you REALLY give a $hit?"
Posted by llrrrpp on May 17, 2006, at 17:15:55
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by bassman on May 17, 2006, at 17:02:16
> Some people think having a therapist with an AD is a real advantage. For this med, how about one that, to every thing you say, says, "do you REALLY give a $hit?"
I can see it now:
A mental health questionaire
*******
How many times in the last 2 weeks have you said "fukit"?always often sometimes rarely never
How many times in the last 2 weeks have you not given a $hit?
always often sometimes rarely never
etc*****
If you answer "rarely, or never" to 2 or more questions, you may suffer from compassion and/or a brown nose.
Talk to your doctor about a prescription for Fukitol. Side effects include rage and apathy, uncontrolled bowel and bladder function, pregnancy and decreased responsibility. Drinking while taking Fukitol may increase the risk of side effects. You should not operate heavy machinery or start new relationships until you know how Fukitol affects you.
Posted by linkadge on May 17, 2006, at 21:16:02
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by llrrrpp on May 17, 2006, at 17:15:55
What I liked best about fukitol was that it didn't seem to affect my sleeping patterns.
My doctor was a little hesitant to prescribe it, but when he saw the literature, he was more than willing.Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2006, at 21:55:16
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by linkadge on May 17, 2006, at 21:16:02
Link I'm on it too. Love Phillipa
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2006, at 22:55:47
In reply to Re: New med is finally heping me, posted by linkadge on May 17, 2006, at 21:16:02
> What I liked best about fukitol was that it didn't seem to affect my sleeping patterns.
> My doctor was a little hesitant to prescribe it, but when he saw the literature, he was more than willing.
>
> LinkadgeI was on it for a while, but I ended up at AA meetings.
Lar
Posted by fairywings on May 18, 2006, at 10:11:29
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
Too funny! I'm printing out a copy of the picture, to see if my pdoc can identify it and get some samples for me! ; )
fw
Posted by B2chica on May 18, 2006, at 12:58:10
In reply to New med is finally heping me, posted by curtm on May 17, 2006, at 11:12:51
Posted by curtm on May 18, 2006, at 13:36:55
In reply to is there a generic? (nm), posted by B2chica on May 18, 2006, at 12:58:10
I think I just overdosed on it. I am going to blow, I can feel it. Someone or something is going to set me off today. I'm not fkn kidding either!
Posted by linkadge on May 19, 2006, at 17:01:28
In reply to Overdose?, posted by curtm on May 18, 2006, at 13:36:55
The intersting thing about this med, is that there seems to be an upper limit. Ie, when patients find their theraputic dose there doesn't seem to be any added benifit beyond that. Death from overdose is rare, and usually secondary to activities such as forgetting to eat, or forgetting to breath. Most patients feel no compulsion to increase their dose.
Linkadge
Posted by madeline on May 19, 2006, at 17:12:27
In reply to Re: Overdose?, posted by linkadge on May 19, 2006, at 17:01:28
Yeah, while I didn't overdose, when I was on the med my personal grooming really lacked a lot to be desired. Sweatpants and T-shirts ruled the day.
But I smoked a lot more.
Posted by llrrrpp on May 19, 2006, at 17:49:39
In reply to Re: Overdose? » linkadge, posted by madeline on May 19, 2006, at 17:12:27
I had a really bad side-effect. Once I took too much, and I went to the movies. I had to pee really bad, but I didn't want to miss anything. I said "Fukitol" and soiled myself. It didn't bother me too much, but I wish more people would take this drug, because it seemed to bother them a lot.
Posted by linkadge on May 19, 2006, at 21:55:47
In reply to Re: Overdose?, posted by llrrrpp on May 19, 2006, at 17:49:39
The big problem with this drug is that not many people make it up to a theraputic dose.
Most people know they're doing better when they start to make positive changes in their life, such as staying in bed all day.
Linkadge
Posted by llrrrpp on May 19, 2006, at 22:01:19
In reply to Re: Overdose?, posted by linkadge on May 19, 2006, at 21:55:47
I've been taking it for only a few short weeks. The most beneficial thing I've noticed is that people don't ask me to take care of things anymore. They do everything themselves. Having no personal responsibilities or duties really allows me to focus on healing myself. They look a little angry and ticked off when I let them down, but they don't understand that this is what I NEED right now. I smell kinda funky, but I don't care. eventually, someone's going to have to bathe me. That's their problem, not mine.
Posted by linkadge on May 20, 2006, at 1:41:12
In reply to Re: Overdose?, posted by llrrrpp on May 19, 2006, at 22:01:19
"That's their problem, not mine"
Thats was the operative paradigm shift that came to me as well, when I first started to respond to fukitol.
Linkadge
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