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Posted by willyee on February 26, 2007, at 0:27:37
Ok i see a lot of new people starting parnate and a lot of questions about various aspects.
I have been on the drug i dunno least 5 years,in this time i have myself tested theories as well as spoke to,read on,and everything else u can on a single drug,contacted company for info etc.
Here are some things that might help...
The data sheets are showing to be way off,and its very common it seems to go well over the 60 mg range,a more common dose for a veteran user seems to be in the 80-120 mg range,with certain people commonly going even over 120.I see talk about taking a larger dose at a single time opposed to spread out.
Heres the jift,one hand ur totaly right,smallers doses can seem to worsen depression and anxiety,However after a initial LARGE single dose,smaller doses such as 10-20 mg from that point on in the day seem much more effective,almost sedating.So there is a big differeace to smaller doses after a Initial large dose,i personaly cant tolerate small doses through the day as i have tried,however i ended up needing that large single morning dose,for me its 40-50 mg mixed with a caffiene tab.
NOW HERES THE KICKER....PLS HEAD THIS WARNING:Parnate is most dangerous after a large dose,its crucial that the dose although large,is in ur therputic range.Dont try to go higher,stay with taking the dose THEN AFTER using smaller 20 mg doses.
Listening to so called pub med data and taking a single dose i KNEW WAS TOO MUCH FOR MY BODY....I.E 60 MG lead me to be very maoi sensative to the dangers and landed in ER over cheese.That single tab of 60 over 50 made a world of differance.I came to a 50 mg dose of being my largest by knowing the med,listening to its effect on my body,and being very cautious,and as ii said i will juggle between that and 40 as being my highest.
Now i know people who easly go higher i a single dose,which is fine.Just make sure its because u feel safe doing this.Also if u just starting to use the HIGHEST DOSE METHOD id begin slow because again this is when parnate can BITE U IN THE *SS HARD,I PROMISE U IT CAN,after u will feel a neck pain,then a tightened chest,a headache,and all u need then is a spark,the wrong food,med, etc and it will be ER TIME.
Last remember parnate poteniates sedatives,so a benzo like klonopin can seem more potent inn it s negative effects while on parnate,so u might want to start low as well.
Good luck,lets keep the info alive on this drug cause the company sure cant.
P.S Last but def not least,parnate does seem to hold for some as in my case definiate addiction potenial.Hope this helps.
Posted by platinumbride on February 26, 2007, at 1:44:29
In reply to Parnate pls listen uppppp, posted by willyee on February 26, 2007, at 0:27:37
Willyee,
Any suggestions on avoiding the afternoon slump I see so much about, and experience myself?
Any about insomnia?
Thanks,
Diane> Ok i see a lot of new people starting parnate and a lot of questions about various aspects.
>
> I have been on the drug i dunno least 5 years,in this time i have myself tested theories as well as spoke to,read on,and everything else u can on a single drug,contacted company for info etc.
>
> Here are some things that might help...
>
>
> The data sheets are showing to be way off,and its very common it seems to go well over the 60 mg range,a more common dose for a veteran user seems to be in the 80-120 mg range,with certain people commonly going even over 120.
>
> I see talk about taking a larger dose at a single time opposed to spread out.
>
>
> Heres the jift,one hand ur totaly right,smallers doses can seem to worsen depression and anxiety,However after a initial LARGE single dose,smaller doses such as 10-20 mg from that point on in the day seem much more effective,almost sedating.
>
> So there is a big differeace to smaller doses after a Initial large dose,i personaly cant tolerate small doses through the day as i have tried,however i ended up needing that large single morning dose,for me its 40-50 mg mixed with a caffiene tab.
>
>
> NOW HERES THE KICKER....PLS HEAD THIS WARNING:
>
> Parnate is most dangerous after a large dose,its crucial that the dose although large,is in ur therputic range.Dont try to go higher,stay with taking the dose THEN AFTER using smaller 20 mg doses.
>
>
> Listening to so called pub med data and taking a single dose i KNEW WAS TOO MUCH FOR MY BODY....I.E 60 MG lead me to be very maoi sensative to the dangers and landed in ER over cheese.
>
> That single tab of 60 over 50 made a world of differance.I came to a 50 mg dose of being my largest by knowing the med,listening to its effect on my body,and being very cautious,and as ii said i will juggle between that and 40 as being my highest.
>
> Now i know people who easly go higher i a single dose,which is fine.Just make sure its because u feel safe doing this.Also if u just starting to use the HIGHEST DOSE METHOD id begin slow because again this is when parnate can BITE U IN THE *SS HARD,I PROMISE U IT CAN,after u will feel a neck pain,then a tightened chest,a headache,and all u need then is a spark,the wrong food,med, etc and it will be ER TIME.
>
> Last remember parnate poteniates sedatives,so a benzo like klonopin can seem more potent inn it s negative effects while on parnate,so u might want to start low as well.
>
>
> Good luck,lets keep the info alive on this drug cause the company sure cant.
>
>
> P.S Last but def not least,parnate does seem to hold for some as in my case definiate addiction potenial.
>
> Hope this helps.
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 26, 2007, at 9:58:48
In reply to Re: Parnate pls listen uppppp » willyee, posted by platinumbride on February 26, 2007, at 1:44:29
> Willyee,
>
> Any suggestions on avoiding the afternoon slump I see so much about, and experience myself?
>
> Any about insomnia?
>
> Thanks,
>These are the two most troublesome side effects for me also.
-Monte
Posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2007, at 11:58:13
In reply to Re: Parnate pls listen uppppp » platinumbride, posted by Crazy Horse on February 26, 2007, at 9:58:48
Monte feeling it yet? Love Phillipa
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 26, 2007, at 15:55:00
In reply to Re: Parnate pls listen uppppp » Crazy Horse, posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2007, at 11:58:13
> Monte feeling it yet? Love Phillipa
Not yet, but it's early (5 days) it'll take 8-10 days. Thanks for asking.
Love, Monte
Posted by willyee on February 26, 2007, at 16:32:33
In reply to Re: Parnate pls listen uppppp » willyee, posted by platinumbride on February 26, 2007, at 1:44:29
I mention this before,i would not use any ampehtmines with parnate,although many people do,its just dangerous to me.
Now i would never normaly take caffiene,it would send me through the sky with anxiety.
HOWEVER,you have parnate in you,and there is fatqique,the safest and fastest way over again i can recomend is a caffiene tab,either vivarin or no doze,i promise u it will not be acitvating like normaly caffiene would,because ur in a faquie scenerio u will barly notice the stimulant efftct of it and it should help give u a lift.
Coffe grind has its own cnstitutes,soda has unmeasured amount of caffiene along with tons of sugar,and other active ingredients,for this i use only pure tabs,so i know im getting a certain amount of caffiene in pure form.
As far as insomnia goes,so many options are available,each person will prefer one over the other,monte for instance is using i believe trazadone,which is common,u can try u typical lunesta or ambien as well.Milages just varies on the person.I have these problems myself.
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