Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 28672

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Re: Weather Control

Posted by Neil Slade on December 6, 2003, at 12:50:26

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by AmyH on December 6, 2003, at 12:23:13

I've gotten lots of requests to do brain focus experiments
on all kinds of things, personal, politcal and war included.
I would suggest people first focus on voting out
republicans from the US Government.

As for regularly leading massive mind control experiments-
I leave that up to television programmers and Madison Avenue
advertising executives.

As to numbers of people listening to Coast to Coast, unlike
my references to the medical literature and experts in brain
research of which I regularly cite sources, its an informal
estimate straight from the mouths of the broadcast
company itself, and nothing more. You probably have a point.
Why don't you write to the company and ask them the source
of their numbers.

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by Neil Slade on December 6, 2003, at 13:01:36

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by Neil Slade on December 6, 2003, at 12:50:26

BTW,

I accept most large audience invitations to speak on my
subject matter, including Clear Channel. The hosts of
Coast to Coast, Art Bell and George Noory, are both
rather anti-establishment, quite the opposite of Rush L.
And even if Rush invitied me to talk, I would be
happy to let him know how much of his brain I believed
might be dormant.

But, I think this is a medical bulletin board, not
a political one, eh.... so, I think I've said enough
about that.

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by maxx44 on December 7, 2003, at 0:11:15

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by AmyH on December 6, 2003, at 1:23:44

may surprise you both. want rain? ask Zeus--before you call me nuts, consider---the 'multi-verse' has heft. some noteable quantum and life-science guys are saying ancient or future events reflect not only the 'quantum participator' hypothesis of dr. john wheeler, et.al., sort of you 'interpret' the 'meaningless sea of quanta' as 'it rains'---while others would say, as the greeks used zuse for rain for thousands of years, that creates a 'chreode of possibility'---like a valley you drop a marble into---it will follow the smoothest path, the one more established in time. how? seems there are no laws of nature, rather habits. so some 'multi-verse' advocates point-out---the universe of the classic greeks may bear inluence on the present. some say it still exists, another part of the multi-verse, now in our past. time separates us. like we're hopping from universe to universe every 'whatever' unit of time. that would explain 'positive thinking', etc. interesting?

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by Neil Slade on December 7, 2003, at 2:47:15

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by maxx44 on December 7, 2003, at 0:11:15

Yeah, well I think I get what Maxx is saying, and I dig it.

We are like projectors-- you see what you expect to see, and in this way travel from universe to universe.
It's the Baxter Effect I mentioned previously.

I haven't done a web search for The Baxter Effect, might be worth while....

thanks Maxx

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by maxx44 on December 7, 2003, at 15:58:21

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by Neil Slade on December 7, 2003, at 2:47:15

and thank you, sir. i truly suspect invoking Zeus, 'Cloud-Gatherer, Lightning Hurler' to be the ancient 'trick' of known 'rainmakers'. i am not a delusional bipolar---the get rich, go broke, rich, broke, etc. type. some have dxd me a 'cyclothyme' with its unfortunate periods of refractory depression. this goes to the times, as a joke, sort of, i would make an apparent fool of myself during florida's last great drought. i just went outside and invoked Zeus---and boy did it rain, flood even---to spite 'weather-man' predictions. of course tampa bay is the lightning capital of the usa---still, that drought was hurting fla., big-time. many years ago, san diego hired a 'rainmaker'---when san diego became flooded they refused to pay the man. funny old world, isn't it? is 'time' simply 'multi-verse' travel? i don't know, but i do know when i submitted much poetry in a russian/american competition, my poem concerning Zeus won---surprised me. but it made the front page of 'the russian journal of culture'. in large headlines.
their interpreter made the title, 'there still be power in starry gods yet'---perhaps the judges chose this one as russia seems 'starved' for religion, etc. best wishes---open-mind

 

Redirect: Weather Control

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2003, at 0:39:20

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by maxx44 on December 7, 2003, at 15:58:21

> and thank you, sir. i truly suspect invoking Zeus, 'Cloud-Gatherer, Lightning Hurler' to be the ancient 'trick' of known 'rainmakers'.

I'd like to redirect follow-ups not about medication to Psycho-Social-Babble. Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20031207/msgs/287901.html

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Neil Slade on August 21, 2007, at 23:51:21

In reply to Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Susan on April 1, 2000, at 23:34:45

I love these critical kinds of posts that say absolutely NOTHING.

And almost always, by people who have both no clue about brain physiology, anatomy, behavior- much less the function of the amygdala, frontal lobes, or other important brain structure

nor, have even bothered to THINK and read with comprehension the materials I've posted as articles, stories, and scientific references.

The world is full of skeptics without a shred of original or analytical capacity.

So be it.
Have a nice day.

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » Neil Slade

Posted by FredPotter on August 23, 2007, at 23:22:01

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Neil Slade on August 21, 2007, at 23:51:21

Off the amygdala clicking site

>Carl Sagan has pointed out that in every brain, >your fantastic one included, there are more >combinations of connections than there are >protons and neutrons in the universe.

Imagine each neuron connection. It will contain at least 1 proton and 1 neutron. So much for the Carl Sagan pronouncement - did he really say that? It's absolute nonsense as we can now see.

Where did the idea come from that we only use 10% of our brains? That's nonsense too since evolution would ensure such a human died fairly rapidly and was removed from the gene pool

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Neil Slade on August 23, 2007, at 23:55:43

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » Neil Slade, posted by FredPotter on August 23, 2007, at 23:22:01

Okay, the observation about the so-called Sagan quote really intrigued me, because I actually didn't remember reading it myself- so here's where I believe the origin of the material came from, eventually landing on my site

http://www.viewzone.com/amygdala/index2.html

Viewzone wrote the above article about my work years ago, and the Sagan quote is actually something that the VIEWZONE author wrote, not myself. I reproduced HIS article on my site-- and I did not change his writing, which would be quite unethical-- and yes, of course, the so-called Sagan quote doesn't make much sense.

Good frontal lobes observation.

What is generally accepted by most, is that the number of neural connections in every brain is a staggering number. Typically, people create metaphors to express this number, and I actually remember someone, and it might have been Sagain, but I can't say for sure, but the observation is that this number is equivalent to the number of visible stars in the universe, or grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth.

Ask somebody like LeDoux, or MacLean, or Eccles, and I think they would concure without any hesitation. Its a big *ss number.

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Neil Slade on August 23, 2007, at 23:56:20

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » Neil Slade, posted by FredPotter on August 23, 2007, at 23:22:01


Otherwise

It terms of the 10% brain idea- not mine, and I think I do a nice job of clarifying exactly what that really means-- and I do it using a lecture by Nobel laureate Sir John Eccles, whom I think had a pretty good idea of brain potential-

http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/how.html

The idea that we use 10% of our brain is a common folksy observation-- see the page above.
Per your logic, however, we don't use ourour appendix either, and it- as well as the container is still around. As far dormant brain humans-- well, all you have to do is travel to Washington DC and that takes care of your argument. :-)

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » FredPotter

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 24, 2007, at 8:56:01

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » Neil Slade, posted by FredPotter on August 23, 2007, at 23:22:01

> >Carl Sagan has pointed out that in every brain, >your fantastic one included, there are more >combinations of connections than there are >protons and neutrons in the universe.
>
> Imagine each neuron connection. It will contain at least 1 proton and 1 neutron. So much for the Carl Sagan pronouncement - did he really say that? It's absolute nonsense as we can now see.

Sagan's comment is absolutely correct. Note he said combinations. Just consider how many combinations of three can be made from a set of ten. Then add in combinations of two and four and....do the same for the networks in our brain, with thousands of connections, and billions on billions of cells.

Lar

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by elanor roosevelt on August 24, 2007, at 10:19:16

In reply to Weather Control, posted by Neil Slade on December 6, 2003, at 0:04:42

what about having a "babe" selling your highly scientific method?
hello out there
can't we have a "someone selling stuff" alert?

 

Re: Weather Control

Posted by Neil Slade on August 24, 2007, at 12:19:54

In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by elanor roosevelt on August 24, 2007, at 10:19:16

?

You mean my picture of Briana on my web page?

She was my piano student for 11 years, and I found that it helped people see the link to the part of my site where I sell my books.

I don't pretend to be a dry textbook site, any more than Carl Sagan turned down his pretend spaceship in his Cosmos series.

For years I consistently got emails- "How can I buy your text books?" I finally cured it with Briana's photo-- and I never again got one of those emails.

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by FredPotter on August 26, 2007, at 16:02:01

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » FredPotter, posted by Larry Hoover on August 24, 2007, at 8:56:01

Well read Larry. I missed the would combinations. You are of course quite right. Grains of sand on beaches is a bit irrelevant given we've just established that the number is greater than all hadrons Fred

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Neil Slade on March 8, 2008, at 9:47:16

In reply to Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Susan on April 1, 2000, at 23:34:45

I recently posted an update to my "How Much Brain Do You Actually Use" page as a current response to a new book by Sam Wang "Welcome To Your Brain".

It's a somewhat conventional, albeit useful look at the brain in 2008, and I appreciate anything that helps people examine their mind motor-- however, I do differ from Dr. Wang in regards to his "myth busting" claim that we use "all of our brain all of the time", which is really not supported by either data, research, or plain old common sense (admittedly in short supply).

See
http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/welcometoyourbrain2.html

Thanks,
Neil

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Newbee on March 13, 2008, at 20:09:40

In reply to Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Susan on April 1, 2000, at 23:34:45

I have to disagree. My Amygdala is working overtime due to insufficient sleep. There was an article last October showing this. Google Sleep deprivation and Amygdala.

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Yoder on February 6, 2010, at 16:25:01

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Neil Slade on March 8, 2008, at 9:47:16

This is all so much mumbo-jumbo. None of this has been substantiated, and all of the so called "Research Reports" were fabricated...how do I know? I was there.

The various Research Reports were fabricated by TD Lingo in an attempt to sell the science community on what he was doing...running an outdoor camp that promised "natural consciousness expansion." All of the "case studies" are also fabrications. I was associated with Lingo in some capacity or another for over 20 years. I met him in 1972. Some of the techniques he used, ie, self-therapy, were interesting and had their merits, but they died when Lingo died.

"Amygdala clicking" and "multiple orgasms" were gimmicks that Lingo would use to interest people in his work, and when they bit he would work tirelessly to close the deal...the deal being attending his summer camp. I know this because he appointed me the "head of marketing" for awhile...I was an abysmal failure by my own admission.

As stated, Art Bell is not science. Bell is to science, what Glen Beck is to politics. Slade also is not a scientist, but a music teacher by training. I have read some of his "science" writings and they lack the discipline required in scientific research, there are never any control groups, and they are replete with cliches and non-sequiturs. Many of the papers he throws out are merely rewrites of Lingo's work. You must realize that it was all done for marketing a wilderness program, that was trying to capitalize upon the consciousness expansion interests of the 60/70's. I will say that Lingo did have some validity with his self-therapy techniques, but for some reason Slade ignores this in his body of work.

Slade calls Lingo a "behaviorist." Lingo was a chemist by training, and formed his own and often refuted behavioral theories by reading "Psychology Today." He never did any research in the field of psychology.

Slade makes reference to Eccles above. This lecture was attended by TD Lingo, and Lingo is the one who took the notes. There is no evidence that Eccles said what Lingo/Slade say he said. I know that Lingo would often ask loaded questions, and then twist the response to match his needs. It would be more appropriate to say that Lingo wrote what he thought he heard or wanted to hear, and Slade merely passes it along. Lingo based the majority of his claims on a book by Woolridge, "The Machinery of the Brain" and "Psychology Today." I actually turned Lingo on to a lot of neurology since that is what I studied as an undergrad in the 70's. Lingo accepted what fit his theory, and rejected what did not. More importantly, the scientific community rejected ever paper that he ever submitted.

Cloud dissolving ...where is the science? As mentioned above, much of what he describes can be described with simple science and meteorological mechanisms. (I am a mathematician/scientist by training...BS and MS)

The bottom line is that if you really need some self-help, then go to a reputable organization such as the Self Realization Fellowship or a psychologist. If you want to see clouds disappear or form, then lay on your back and watch them do their natural thing. If you want miracles, then join the Catholic Church or ingest some Peyote. Just make sure you use common sense in all of your dealings.

 

Re: please be civil » Yoder

Posted by Dr. Bob on February 7, 2010, at 11:40:36

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Yoder on February 6, 2010, at 16:25:01

> his "science" writings ... are replete with cliches and non-sequiturs. Many of the papers he throws out are merely rewrites of Lingo's work.

Welcome to Babble. Please don't post anything here that could lead others to feel accused or put down.

But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.

More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express oneself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by Yoder on February 7, 2010, at 14:03:04

In reply to Re: please be civil » Yoder, posted by Dr. Bob on February 7, 2010, at 11:40:36

My bad. No offense taken.

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!? » Yoder

Posted by Deneb on February 7, 2010, at 16:19:54

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Yoder on February 6, 2010, at 16:25:01

Hello Yoder!

Welcome to Psycho-Babble! Thanks for the information.

Deneb

 

Re: thanks (nm) » Yoder

Posted by Dr. Bob on February 7, 2010, at 18:24:34

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Yoder on February 7, 2010, at 14:03:04

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by Dashiki on February 8, 2010, at 18:06:25

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Cam W. on April 2, 2000, at 3:22:43

Exactly! I agree Cam W!

This is a document Neil Slade Demanded to be removed from Sarlo Muesling's Guru Ratings Positive Partizan Feedback! Makes me wander why! Original page is (now gone) -- http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Flingo.htm)

More on TD Lingo

I've been a student of consciousness expansion and spirituality for over 35 years, and have taken more than 100 workshops, trainings, and classes in consciousness development, starting at the age of 19 with T. D. Lingo. I was one of his early "experiments." Lingo was an amazing teacher, a true hidden genius. Nutty as hell, in some ways, but certifiably brilliant in many others. [Neil Slade is not considered by any of Lingo's students "his successor," but rather an egoist who is using Lingo's materials (unauthorized) to promote himself. Nothing surprising there.]* Lingo did not expect to die, so his estate was a mess, and although he promised to pass his amazing school property (250 acres of prime Colorado mountain property, log cabins, pump well, wind generator-driven printing press) to one or another of his students, it ended up in the hands of his adopted drug addicted son (long abandoned), who sold it for $3M to developers.* Too bad, because Lingo lived in basic poverty, struggling to become known, although his unique and quirky writing style and manner turned almost everybody off.

I have the only (to my knowledge) complete version of his 100-lesson workbook*, which I'm trying to get the legal right to publish. He was democratic in the extreme, stressing self-therapy, brain self-control, and self-empowerment all the way. He stated clearly that he didn't want to be a guru, but of course, at some level he wanted people to buy his point of view whole hog and work for him for free. We disagreed on that point (and many others) many times, but I studied with him for four years, and consider him to be my first TRUE teacher. He released me from the bonds of my historical programming, and freed me to explore on my own. He had a great heart, and was generous with many people, but also had a harsh and angry streak when people weren't generous to him in kind. He lost students about as fast as he got them. He was an original -- and his death was a real tragedy. I hope to write a book about him one day.

~ Lion Goodman,
Everyday Awakening.com

everything is fair in love and war - but stealing is NOT Holy!
-D

 

Redirect and please be civil » Dashiki

Posted by Dr. Bob on February 9, 2010, at 10:59:38

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Dashiki on February 8, 2010, at 18:06:25

> Neil Slade is not considered by any of Lingo's students "his successor," but rather an egoist who is using Lingo's materials (unauthorized) to promote himself.

Welcome to Babble. Please don't post anything here that could lead others to feel accused or put down.

But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.

More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express oneself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Other follow-ups should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Alternative.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Redirect: administrative issues

Posted by Dr. Bob on February 11, 2010, at 8:31:45

In reply to Redirect and please be civil » Dashiki, posted by Dr. Bob on February 9, 2010, at 10:59:38

> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.

Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20091103/msgs/936686.html

That'll be considered a new thread, so if you'd like to be notified by email of follow-ups to it, you'll need to request that there. Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?

Posted by NeilGSlade on January 10, 2012, at 11:15:14

In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Yoder on February 6, 2010, at 16:25:01

It's been a couple of years since "Yoder" posted this anonymous message, and I felt it was time for a response putting his comments in perspective.

Given that Yoder's comments are "anonymous" (although not at all to me, see below), I will provide only a single new rebuttal on this thread, and almost certainly the only new one I will provide, as I am aware of long anonymous forum members will continue to provide false information in a feigned "discussion", and I really have no time for that. If anyone is interested in a full and DOCUMENTED history of TD Lingo (TDL) and his life and work, please go to this page http://www.neilslade.com/art/Brain/history.html "Real History of TDL and The Dormant Brain Lab"


1) "Yoder"'s real identity was known at this time because of personal correspondence sent to me by another anonymous poster here "Dashiki", who is also identified by real name. His identity is further by the content and self-reference commentary left by Yoder easily crossed referenced with his other online commentary.

In this private correspondence which was shared with me by one of his online "friends", Yoder admits is doings here, as well as other web mischief, and he uses his real name in the correspondence.

I knew Yoder in many capacities at the brain lab, and his identity is no secret at all, and any of the old staff at the lab knows exactly who this person is, and why he carries a grudge.

I will not reveal his full name here, just because my intent is not to damage anyone's reputation or put their professional career at jeopardy- and also because although Dr. Bob allows unsubstantiated commentary and personal attack by anonymous posts, he allows people to remain anonymous online and will XXX out any real use of his name here. A curious double standard in my opinion, but its Dr. Bob's forum...

2) Yoder is in fact a math and computer teacher in a Colorado Public school system, (also referred somewhat in his comments here).

I read his comment here with amusement: "(I am a mathematician/scientist by training...BS and MS)" BS is right. He is a high school math teacher and runs the computer lab. If that is scientist, well then, I'm an astronaut because I look up at stars.

One reason that Yoder will not be self-identified is because he is aware that by revealing his real name, that lets out an entire can of worms- including what he has revealed through his signed correspondence about quite mischievous and in fact illegal activity online in his attempts to discredit myself, and the detrimental effect that would have on his job, his reputation, and perhaps his pension. I've already had to deal with this by notifying local law enforcement and Yoder's superiors at his work place, who put a quick end to that activity of Yoder, so, I prefer to not stir the pot any further, unless legally necessary.

3. Yoder's personal vendetta against myself stems from the fact that after Lingo died, I continued my work as I had done in partnership with Lingo from 1982-1993. And, I was quite successful at it, not only being able to support myself entirely from my publications on brain education, but also because I developed a good reputation for my work. This is documented on my web site "Real History of The Dormant Brain Lab" freely accessible online.

Yoder temporarily teamed up with a few of TD's former students after the lab director's death in 1993, with the intent of doing something with all of the intellectual legacy. They even formed a legal partnership of their own with the remaining new president of TD's non-profit corp, who remains my friend.

But all of this good intention fell to dust within a few short years, and not only was the legal corp dissolved, but Yoder nor anyone else did anything in the way of continuing the work, which left the job solely for me to continue as I had done uninterrupted since 1982.

Except for one bit of mischief.

Yoder had his buddy L.G. (See Real History of Brain Lab page) obtain from me missing portions of one of TDL's manuscripts. A year later, with Yoder's secretive assistance, L.G. made a claim of copyright ownership of the book, in an attempt to obtain a publishing deal for himself, as owner of the book. Of course, the Lingo Estate (surviving relatives) immediately put a stop to that-- and this didn't set very well with either L.G. or Yoder, who then began bashing me online as you see here as some kind of retribution. You see, not only had the president of the non-profit legal corp made sure I had, and could do whatever I wanted with all of the intellectual property, but Lingo's estate had further given me legal permission to continue to publish a few choice manuscripts.

4. This alone set the tone for Yoder's discontent, because he never achieved either the kind of public recognition I had done, nor had received either the public or private approval of TD Lingo. The record of this is clear, again as clearly demonstrated in the published correspondence from Lingo to Yoder, seen in the web page "Real History of The Dormant Brain Lab" and there identified by the first letter of his real first name, "R".

Again, I'm not out to get the fellow fired, but that is whom I refer to on that page of documents.

5. What followed was a series of threatening emails, my newsletter forum abuse, and the eventually revealed plans to try to ruin my email service by Yoder as well as a stated plan to "hack into Slade's computer and steal his mailing list".

6. Yoder, was in fact a great disappointment to to TDL, whom among other things, eventually accused Yoder of plagiarism. One might dismiss this as rumor- except for the fact that a little bit of detective work online shows that Yoder continues to plagiarise a great deal of work on his web site, including wholesale reproduction of TDL's own work- with no proper credit given, inferring the the author of the work is none other than the web site owner himself. Hardly honest.

(It might be noted that after I made TDL's accusations of Yoder's continuing plagiarism, he finally begin giving proper author credit to SOME of the vast number of documents he copied and pasted on his own site.)

7. And that web site of his is the most curious aspect of all of Yoder's negativity and wrath. Despite the carefully sculpted anti-commentary here, Yoder, under his real name, continues to publish with glowing sentiment, reams and reams of TDL's old manuscripts and writings on his web site. And this is easily enough found, and the clarity of whom Yoder is, is easily discerned from those web pages by cross checking the comments here and there.

Why? Either he has calmed down and really believes in the stuff, or perhaps he knows that it drives web traffic to his site, where he sells musical instruments and conducts his other business.

The record is unmistakable, in spite of Yoder's complaints about TDL here, finally, finally in 2005, a full twelve years after TDL's death Yoder began to publish documents of Lingo's in his possession when my success at popularizing Lingo's work was apparent. This is documented in the Internet Archive of Yoder's web site. Hey why not? I was getting 3000 visitors a day to my site, why not ride on my and TDL's coat tails- while anonymously bash him here, in a misguided attempt to get under my fingernails?

7. Yoder states here (not on his site of course) that "There is no evidence that Eccles said what Lingo/Slade say he said." But there is in fact ample evidence. All one needs to do is read the books and articles by John Eccles, and his feelings about the brain, and his opinion about the "infinite untapped potential of the brain" is well documented and known by anyone who has read at any depth the writings of John Eccles, which apparently Yoder has not. See Eccles, "How the Self Controls Its Brain" Berlin/New York: Springer, 1994., or perhaps an interesting third party paper such as http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_05_2_giroldini.pdf

In fact, the lecture from which Lingo derives his quote, "The brain indicates its powers are endless", which itself is copied copiously all over the web at this point, , is a lecture that many people attended besides Lingo. Several supply information about the talk that Lingo himself never revealed, such as the actual title of the talk. Lingo's quote is derived from The Brain-Mind Problem, delivered by Sir John Eccles at the University of Colorado on July 31, 1974.

8. Finally we turn to the work of TD Lingo himself, which Yoder anonymously makes a weak attempt to destabilize and minimalism here --

(Really, can we ever trust anonymous sources?
That's why I always use my real and full name in online commentary.)

Lingo was not a member of the academic aristocracy, nor did he ever pretend as much. He was an independent thinker, teacher, and researcher. Certainly in a greater capacity as a scientist than Yoder would claim to be.

But he did have these degrees: Ph.B. B.Sci., M.A.
from the University of Chicago and other institutions.

Lingo spent the last 35 years of his life researching human brain and behavior, not only from massive printed material and publications, easily seen lining the walls of his home (see photos http://www.neilslade.com/art/Brain/brainrev2.html ) but clearly indicated in his work and writing, which would have been impossible without a thorough knowledge of the field.

The assertion by Yoder that "formed his own and often refuted behavioral theories by reading "Psychology Today" is patently absurd, although I am sure it is something that Lingo read among all of the other literature.

Lingo had a thorough knowledge of brain anatomy, and current understandings of neruophysiology, however gained, and this is reflected in his books, abstracts, and papers.

More importantly, he formed original concepts that looked at brain function in a unique way, and this is what he taught to his students over decades.

Lingo corresponded with hundreds of individuals throughout the world, as well as had hundreds of individuals took part in his educational facility and summer "brain school" camp for 35 years, where people studied their own selves, their own behavior, and their own brain- in a living functional state within their own craniums.

If being a teacher, an entertainer, a writer, someone with an intimate scientific knowledge of brain function, and an observer of human beings over the course of a lifetime doesn't qualify one to form an opinion of brain function and behavior, as Lingo did- then nothing does.

-Neil Slade, January 2012
www.NeilSlade.com



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