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Posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:38:49
pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(
she sais its for severe manic depressed, but i think my mood is not what is normal is
and it helps depression, how can i get better if nobody wants to give me something good
if i ask memantine how will she react to that
Posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:40:31
In reply to pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(, posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:38:49
please read, how on earth can i recover :(
by self experiment? i dont think thats a good idea, i just want the stimulant effect of seroquel back and im ok
Posted by manic666 on October 7, 2008, at 4:22:36
In reply to please read, how on earth can i recover :(, posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:40:31
hey my buddy you think your a pharmist, you want to change meds every day, if you did all the meds you ask you would crash like a zeperlin, buddy you carnt keep changin, your body no let you . give the meds a chance then create f/uk if they dont work. your mad with the pain i know but its the life we live , a good time is do to you so hang loose my buddy it will happen. manic666
Posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 5:33:20
In reply to Re: please read, how on earth can i recover :(, posted by manic666 on October 7, 2008, at 4:22:36
not funny :(
Posted by manic666 on October 7, 2008, at 7:39:49
In reply to Re: please read, how on earth can i recover :(, posted by manic666 on October 7, 2008, at 4:22:36
i wasnt ment to be funny . i thought i was clever every med i had i took more, more is better that was my motto,WRONG im well fcked up but im learning after years of sh*t.so no i wasnt being funny just tellin it like it is . changin meds all the time sucks. you dont have time to get over one when bang, another enters your already battered brain. manic666
Posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 10:52:13
In reply to Re: i wansnt bein funny, posted by manic666 on October 7, 2008, at 7:39:49
whats the point of years of therapy witouth getting better, its a scam
Posted by Phillipa on October 7, 2008, at 12:16:12
In reply to Re: i wansnt bein funny, posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 10:52:13
What manic says is true seriously. Maybe someone else will give their perspective too. Must give meds a chance to work. Are you seeing a therapist also? Phillipa
Posted by Polarbear206 on October 7, 2008, at 17:04:47
In reply to pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(, posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:38:49
> pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(
>
> she sais its for severe manic depressed, but i think my mood is not what is normal is
>
> and it helps depression, how can i get better if nobody wants to give me something good
>
> if i ask memantine how will she react to that
Jeron,I think your p-doc is behind the times in regards to saying that Lithium is only used for severe manic depression. Frankly, from reading some of your entries, you might just do well with Lithium as a part of your drug regime.
Posted by Jeroen on October 8, 2008, at 9:54:07
In reply to Re: pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(, posted by Polarbear206 on October 7, 2008, at 17:04:47
yea i know,
i was thinking of seroquel and lithium togetherseroquel for psychosis and lithium for mood disorder and depression, but cant know for sure
Posted by Racer on October 8, 2008, at 12:08:41
In reply to pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(, posted by Jeroen on October 7, 2008, at 3:38:49
Jeroen,
I'm sorry you're suffering so much, and feeling so hopeless. I wish I could offer you some hope, because I do believe that there is hope for you. It's just sometimes a struggle to see it.
You've discussed which medications you're asking your doctor for. What you haven't mentioned is what your doctor is suggesting for you? I'm sure she has suggested something -- are you able to give her suggestions a fair consideration? Is she suggesting you stay on medications longer than you have been? I truly believe that patience is the key for you -- if you can stick it out with the doctor's suggestions, for as long as the doctor suggests, at the doses your doctor suggests, on the titration schedule your doctor prescribes, I think you'll have a much better outcome.
Believe me -- I know how hard it is to find that patience. Could you maybe use Babble to help you cope with the waiting period for a drug to start working? Post here about your discomfort, your concerns, your reactions -- and accept our support in helping you tolerate all that?
My first anti-depressant didn't seem to be doing anything at all for the longest time. I was giving up hope. I was very fortunate, because it was a TCA with a known therapeutic blood level, so we could track that level through blood tests. We knew that I just wasn't getting to a therapeutic level, which made it much easier to wait, but it was also agonizing -- I was sure there was no hope at all. And then, once I finally reached a therapeutic level -- it was like a miracle!
If you can stick it out, tolerate the waiting period without changing medications again, I believe you can reach that same state of improvement. I hope it for you.
Let us help hold hope for you, until you can hold it for yourself. It will take some patience on your part, though.
So, Jeroen, what is your doctor suggesting?
Posted by Jeroen on October 8, 2008, at 12:21:09
In reply to Re: pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :( » Jeroen, posted by Racer on October 8, 2008, at 12:08:41
Abilify, she sais it is a good med for me but i have increased paranoia, nerviousness, insomnia (combatted with ativan 2.5 mg)
im stuck in therapy, isnt there a better way to diagnoze and cure patients?
Posted by manic666 on October 8, 2008, at 12:54:28
In reply to Racer, posted by Jeroen on October 8, 2008, at 12:21:09
i no what its like to hurt buddy , i see a new therapist on monday for c.b.therapy to see if im sutible, 30 years to late.boy they will have there hands full with me.borg buddy stay cool.mannic666
Posted by Jeroen on October 8, 2008, at 13:02:38
In reply to Re: Racer, posted by manic666 on October 8, 2008, at 12:54:28
hang in there and no insulting of the therapist :p lol
Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2008, at 12:29:03
In reply to to manic, posted by Jeroen on October 8, 2008, at 13:02:38
Jeroen hows it going? Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on October 10, 2008, at 13:02:31
In reply to Re: to manic » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2008, at 12:29:03
not so good, sorry to say this always, lost a lot of friends that way
ed isnt responding, you contact him please
Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2008, at 19:44:17
In reply to Re: to manic, posted by Jeroen on October 10, 2008, at 13:02:31
Jeroen sorry doesn't write much to me or anyone else either much anymore. Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on October 10, 2008, at 19:54:52
In reply to Re: pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(, posted by Polarbear206 on October 7, 2008, at 17:04:47
> > pdoc doesnt want to prescribe lithium :(
> >
> > she sais its for severe manic depressed, but i think my mood is not what is normal is
> >
> > and it helps depression, how can i get better if nobody wants to give me something good
> >
> > if i ask memantine how will she react to that
>
>
> Jeron,
>
> I think your p-doc is behind the times in regards to saying that Lithium is only used for severe manic depression. Frankly, from reading some of your entries, you might just do well with Lithium as a part of your drug regime.
>Actually Lithium is used for suicidal thoughts and is one of the quicker ways of boosting antidepressants.
It's not without its problems, such as salt monitoring and other common to rare effects but it has saved some people's lives.
-- Jay
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