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Posted by BearNCrow on December 22, 2010, at 22:13:32
I hope that this message thread is allowed to stay up under Medication, as ultimately this is an issue dealing with medications, their effect on the brain, the safe stopping of them, the need to sometimes stop them cold turkey, and the brain's reaction to both the short term and long term use of medications, regardless of the actual need for them in the beginning.
I'm 11 days post stopping lithium 1200mg cold turkey due to possibly months of chronic lithium toxicity and a few weeks of acute lithium toxicity. Those final weeks I exhibited the majority of commonly known symptoms of acute lithium toxicity including: persistent diarrhea, vomiting, severe nausea, trembling and tremors, moderate to severe disorientation, involuntary frequent muscle twitching, blurry vision, dizziness, drunk walk, slurred speech, irregular and sometimes extremely rapid heartbeat. Things went downhill at exponentially enormous speeds beginning around 12/6. Increasing disorientation by the day, increased fatigue, inability to recognize separate heart beats at times. By the end of that week I was sleeping up to 18-20 hours a day, so I wasn't drinking, and the dehydration pushed the lithium toxicity to a crisis point. That weekend I was so disoriented that I didn't recognize my home or remember that my wife is pregnant. She was out of town, so I was alone and honestly feel lucky to be alive today. Sunday night 12/12 I was sooo sick and kept saying over and over "I don't know the world I'm in" as I shivered from chills uncontrollably for hours. My wife encouraged me not to take lithium that night as I had one swallow in me where MAYBE I could keep down a few pills. She may have saved my life. By the next evening I already felt slight improvement. 11 days off of lithium and I am a new person. It's kind of like slowly waking up. My wife and others are saying I'm more engaged and talkative, the emptiness and glaze in my eyes is gone, I have a personalty, etc. It is hard to have a memory of the last weeks and months but no emotional imprinting of anything that happened.
Why didn't I call anyone or go to the ER? I am in the throws of deconstructing my bipolar diagnosis. My entire medical, both mental health and non mental health, treatment team is on board. There are too many signs that the diagnosis was probably wrong from the beginning, hence why maybe 15 psychiatrists and 30-40 medications in 11 years haven't been able to help me. Earlier in the week before the weekend I believe I almost died, both my therapist and psychiatrist were totally on board with me titrating off of meds, both saying they have had doubts all along. But when I call them and complain about these symptoms of lithium toxicity, my therapist says I need a residential program and my psychiatrist says well, you can always go to the ER, but if you do, go to X because they have the best psychiatric unit in the city. Barf! So I literally was white knuckling it, alone, afraid, but taking my damn meds every day and night as directed because I'm a good patient, not realizing I was killing myself. I intentionally overdosed on lithium in 2002, and I had a bruised elbow then compared to how sick I was for weeks and maybe months. No one has checked my kidney function, but I think it is clearly warranted. The stigma of severe mental illness, whether I ever was it or not, will forever haunt me which is sad, but I will be an advocate regardless.
I spoke with my psychiatrist from the last city I lived in that first night post lithium discontinuation, and she predicted rebound mania. Well, I've never been textbook manic, and hypomania is highly subjective and relative, which leaves me with depression and anxiety, and I'll get to that later. 11 days and no rebound mania. In fact, I'm sleeping 12+ hours a night and am tired all day! The biggest problem was that the first 5 days off of lithium I had on and off debilitating anxiety, and I cannot handle anxiety. It is my most feared mental state and I can remember being anxious as young as 6 or 7. So I had already gone off of klonopin 2mg at night, but finally couldn't take it any longer, knew that I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone including myself, so I began taking 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night, and the anxiety is gone completely. So I am on klonopin, 200mg of seroquel, 600mg gabapentin in the morning and 1800mg at night (gabapentin is intended for relief of nerve pain in the morning and for pushing me into stage 3 or 4 sleep at night because a recent sleep study shows that I'm in stage 2 sleep all night, therefore never resting, so what are the long term effects of sleep deprivation, and all this time I've claimed I dream all night and doctors say that's impossible...well, it is), and that's it. This is nothing compared to the majority of the last 11 years, and I am fine. 200mg of seroquel makes me high as a kite, like smoked a joint high, red eyes, chatty, munchies, WTF?! I used to take 1000mg of seroquel with no effect! Really tired, probably from the gabapentin, which they want to increase, but no anxiety, no mania, no hypomania or mixed states or agitated mania or irritable mania or anything, and no depression. So what now?
I want to make sure folks know that I'm not anti-meds, anti-psychiatry or anti-bipolar diagnosis. I know I'll always be on anti-anxiety meds, probably klonopin because of the potential bad effects of anti-depressants, and I'll probably need some kind of mild mood stabilizer just because I've always been moody, and I've been on meds for 11 years that I may not have needed but that my brain is accustomed to in order to "function" now. I'd love to be treated for my ADHD, but again, stimulants could be bad for me. I think psychiatry is a perpetual new frontier, and I at the end of the day respect it. And if I go off meds and flip my sh*t and have to go on meds and be hospitalized, well, then I have a baseline for the first time in 11 years which would be a beautiful gift.
This is sooo incredibly long, so I'm stopping for now and posting this. Any comments, feedback, opinions, experience, strength or hope would be greatly appreciated. Has anyone ever been wrongly diagnosed and wrongly medicated for 11 years or whatever? How did you go about going off of meds? Any tips? Can a person be diagnosed as bipolar and then not be bipolar? I don't need to ask more questions. You folks are smart and can have at it!
Here are all the missing pieces that I want to write about; please tell me where on dr-bob to post them:
1. reason I don't think I'm bipolar is because I'm a transgender man and I believe most of my anguish and illness has been because I lived 33 years in the wrong body!
2. neuro-cognitive psychological testing showed some bad impairments, but I was lithium toxic when I took the 7 hours of testing, so I have yet to read the final report
3. depression started a month after I got my period which happened in July and by the time 6th grade started after Labor Day I was becoming severely depressed
4. give me testosterone therapy and some surgeries and I'm happy as a lark but possibly have irreversible brain damage from 11 years of lithium use
5. I am starting a DBT group in mid January
6. I have to find a new therapist now when more sh*t has gone down in my life in the last 6 months than 33 years combined...yet I'm stable as a rock and handling the stress and blows beautifully
7. severe sleep problems
8. severe degenerative disc disease and am probably having back surgery in January or February (I'm 33)Again, I could list more, but I won't. I have always trusted this website when in need. You all know far more collectively and in some cases individually than the finest doctors. So please, have at it, ask anything, say anything with respect, tell me where to explore the other issues I listed, etc. I would like to address the above stated issues in this thread since it's all related, but I respect Dr. Bob too.
Be well,
Ami
Posted by mellow on December 23, 2010, at 5:11:06
In reply to Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by BearNCrow on December 22, 2010, at 22:13:32
Hi,
I'm sorry you aren't feeling well. Did you get your lithium blood levels drawn pretty regularly? It would have been interesting to know how toxic you were and when all this started. It's often easy to look at a list of symptoms and and self diagnose a problem, but a simple blood test could have alarmed your doctors and started the proper treatment. There could have been any number of things going on, but it certainly looks like the lithium was the culprit if you are feeling so much better. That is of course unless you feeling great because you are slowly swinging out into mania. I usually have the insight to tell I'm about to swing and sometimes like to just ignore it because it feels really good :)Were you taking the lithium in addition to the Seroquel, Klonopin and Gabapentin all this time? That's a decent sized cocktail if so. It may have all been building up inside of you for awhile and everything was making you sick.
Do you have a primary care doctor or internist in addition to your psychiatrist that can run a few test on you? Maybe if you hurry you could get in today or next week before the new year holiday. I would maybe get a lipid panel as well as your hepatic (liver) labs drawn. They could also do urine to make sure you kidneys are ok.
I would do all of this and I would make sure I found a doctor who I liked. I just started a relationship with a new primary care doctor and I was very scared to disclose my bipolar history because of the stigma. I decided to just come right out and say it and see what he said. He actually had a more friendly manner about it than my psychiatrist! We talked for several minutes about my mental health before we started my physical.
I imagine you and your wife have some friends who can recommend a good primary care doc in the event that you don't have one or are not comfortable with the treatment team you have now. You sound like you are just on the recovery side of crisis. You were very ill just a few days ago and are now facing a back surgery in the next 30-60 days. I would just try and take a breath and try and work out one little issue each day. Sometimes I have to focus on just taking a walk one day and working hard to get my body in a rhythm to sleep even if it's only for 5 or 6 hours. Good sleep 3 days in a row can totally change our perspective on everything! I know it's the holidays but I would try and avoid alcohol as it will aggravate your sleep. It will put you into a deeper stage 3 delta sleep quickly but you will wake up 2 or 3 hour later. You feel jittery and anxious because your body wants that booze out. It can lead to sleep maintenance insomnia where you just can't stay asleep to get a full nights rest which can really push the accelerator down on your anxiety and get everything out of control.
Clarity and focus come when he get our bodies in shape. That doesn't mean we have to be perfectly fit or eat a really restrictive diet it just means we need to find a little balance spiritually, physically and mentally. Just a 30 minute walk with a loved one or a pet or even in solitude can help with energy and sleep. Try walking with some mediation music if you have an ipod. You can get some meditation podcasts for free from itunes.
I wouldn't worry too much about a diagnosis of bipolar. "Bipolar" is just a road map for the docs. Honestly that stuff seems to just follow us around when professionals read our charts and are looking for ways to treat us. They see our histories and jump to conclusions, many of which may be accurate...some of them are completely inaccurate.
Medicine is a business and doctors are looking for the most effective ways to get the patient "stable" as quickly as possible. That is the service they are trained to offer. (Some of them very poorly) Very few docs are trained to help people achieve full wellness. Total optimal health with a zest for life. If we don't like how we feel we certainly have the right to take our money/insurance somewhere else if we can afford to. They in turn have the right to treat us however they see fit. This might include someone trying to shove you right back on your lithium. In that case you might exercise your right to find a new doc.
Doctors and therapist use to tell me all the time "trying to prove to us that you aren't bipolar is a very common and persistent symptom in most people with this illness..." I got slapped with that so much I just quit resisting and decided I'm more than a word on a chart or a description of symptoms someone wrote in a textbook years ago.
If you go to your psychiatrist or seek a new one I would ask him/her if you could try anticonvulsants instead. Lamictal (lamotrigine) is FDA approved for maintenance of Bipolar disorder and I did very well on Trileptal (oxcarbazepine) for years. Maybe swap one of those for your lithium and quickly try and taper some of the other drugs out of the cocktail. Seroquel is suppose to be good for sleep so I wonder how you would do on Lamictal for mood stabilization, Seroquel for sleep/anxiety and Klonopin just for emergencies like panic attacks.
You will be ok. Always remember that. It's always ok! Just breath. I hope you have a good holiday and I'm sure as a few people wake up this morning you will get some good responses. I just happened to have rolled over and felt chipper enough to put on a coffee pot at 4:00am.
peace...mellow
Posted by BearNCrow on December 23, 2010, at 14:16:03
In reply to Re: Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by mellow on December 23, 2010, at 5:11:06
Mellow and anyone else reading this,
Thanks for responding. I have had two psychiatrists since moving to my city this past January, and neither have ever checked my lithium level. With memory impairment caused by lithium, remembering to ask for it was hardly my responsibility. My PCP checked it a few times earlier in the year, but some times she ordered it with my other routine every 3 months bloodwork and I asked the phlebotomist to ignore it because it was a time of day that would have given a very inaccurate reading. I regret not knowing my level. I imagine it was extraordinarily high, more so as weeks progressed and ridiculous the weekend that the dehydration hit me. I'm over it. I'm never taking lithium again. I know for a fact that the lithium was the culprit and was for other things too.
I am in no way, shape or form feeling great because I am slowly swinging into mania. I sleep at least 12 hours a night and am tired all day, am clear headed, and have done nothing manic-like. All that is happening is that I am waking up from 11 years of lithium use that deadened me from the inside out. I have never been manic, and hypomanic is pretty hard to pin down too, hence one of many reasons I and my treatment team think I'm probably not bipolar, or if anything have a mix of anxiety and occasional agitation and sleep issues, i.e. sleeping 4-6 hours a night rather than 10-14. Not manic.
I was taking 1200mg lithium, 300mg seroquel and 2mg klonopin for a long time. I cut the seroquel back to 200mg first, then gabapentin was added for nerve pain relief (doesn't work) and to try and help me get more restful sleep (not happening). The gabapentin has been adjusted a lot this past month. I went off klonopin with no adverse effects. Then I went cold turkey off of lithium, moved seroquel back up to 300mg, went on klonopin 1mg twice a day and the anxiety that surfaced after going off of lithium has been gone without a trace left behind for a week. Back down to 200mg seroquel, increased gabapentin to 600mg morning and 1800mg night. Know that in the past I was on 1000mg seroquel with little effect and 3600mg gabapentin which was like sugar pills. Clearly my body chemistry has changed drastically. Will address that in a minute. This med cocktail is small stuff compared to previous cocktails. All that was making me sick was the lithium.
I have a PCP who I love. I've seen her for a year. She is amazing and highly reputable. Gives me so much time and care. At one of the oldest teaching hospitals in the country which I love. She is the type who will relive med school and go to the medical library and research stuff for me. I have a PCP, a psychiatrist who I like and don't envy, a therapist in California that I am ending with and am looking for a new therapist here in my city at an extremely inopportune time. I am starting a DBT group 1/13 to give me skills to deal with going off of meds. I see a psychiatrist who is a family medicine doctor and nationally known as a fibromyalgia expert who primarily treats aches and pains and is trying to address my fibro related sleep disorder of years of only stage 2 sleep (no wonder I always feel like I'm having an out of body experience - I never really sleep - and I dream all night which everyone says is impossible but it is possible if you're in stage 2 sleep all night!), and I have and am consulting with different orthopaedic and neuro surgeons about back treatments as well as PT people and pain management folks. I think that covers my health care folks. Less than previously believe it or not. I just had my lipid panel checked for other reasons and will try and get in with my PCP to check my kidneys. My psychiatrist could order it too as could my fibro doctor. I'm not super concerned. I'm quite resilient.
I was so ill 10 days ago that nothing that was important a week before that was important then. I just wanted to live through it and figure out the rest a day at a time. I feel amazing compared to 10 days ago, but have a long way to go. My wife is pregnant and the due date is April 22, so I am on a mission to make myself better so I can be a better husband and a great father. At age 33, back surgery is a sad reality, but I want to be able to walk which I can barely do now at certain times of the day, I want to be able to hold my child and stand for longer than 5 minutes, so I have to pursue some kind of intermediary back surgery. All that is keeping me from buying a cane is pride.
I wish more than anything I could get 3 good nights sleep in a row. I wonder how much sleep I would need once my sleep disorder might be resolved to sort of catch up. I have been clean and sober for 13+ years, so no worries about alcohol consumption. Diet Mountain Dew is my biggest vice, and I'm down to 2 cans a day for headache control mostly as the caffeine does nothing to help me feel awake, and I very occasionally drink coffee. I long for the ability to go for walks. I just can't these days because of my leg. The nerve pain can be excruciating down my thigh, and the pressure and shin splint like pain in my lower leg feels like a python is wrapped tightly around my leg. They say you are in real trouble when you no longer have the back pain but instead have leg pain. I have completed the history with this new doctor and he has my MRI and report. I think it will be great for him but bad for me. I start deep heated aquatic therapy in January, but I am realistically not expecting much. I have tried EVERYTHING they say to try before having a spinal decompression consult, and NOTHING has helped.
I do worry about a diagnosis of bipolar if it isn't accurate. If it is a road map for docs, why would I want them to have the wrong road map? My bipolar diagnosis, which has been questioned by therapists and psychiatrists for 11 years yet they continued to shove meds down my throat, has been the most stigmatizing thing for me and has been the biggest obstacle to receiving quality health care, way more than me being transgender. If I go off of all bipolar meds, I will forever be stigmatized by having had the diagnosis. Docs will still treat me like I'm crazy, maybe more so because how in the world could someone be bipolar and then not be?! Maybe because they never were! If it comes to it, I may just lie and leave it off all medical history once I move to a new city. I have already contracted with my wife that if I become really manic or really depressed that I will go back on meds and/or be hospitalized against my will. Believe me, it will not come to that.
My experience is that me finally asserting that I'm not bipolar after 11 years of giving in fully in all possible ways to a bipolar diagnosis and identity and victim status even when my care givers were questioning the bipolar has not at all been seen as confirming that I'm bipolar. Instead everyone in my life is on board me deconstructing my bipolar diagnosis, going off unnecessary meds and having a truly accurate diagnosis of anxiety disorder. I refuse to be a victim ever again. I am empowered now for the first time in my life. Everything is a new ballgame. I will be a much better and different patient from now on.
I'm not trying any new meds for now. Anticonvulsants never worked. Been there done that with Lamictal. Stopped it cold turkey a few years ago with no adverse affects. I offered to go on a new drug just to go back off of it when I stopped lithium cold turkey, as I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone, I just want to be healthy, happy and well, but he insisted that seroquel would be enough and it has been, too much in fact, it seems. The plan is to go off of seroquel, stay on klonopin for anxiety relief for now and maybe always, use gabapentin for non-psychiatric reasons, and have a baseline!!!!! and go from there.
I know I will be ok. I've always known that even though I've been through the ringer a sh*t ton of times. I believe everything happens for a reason, everything always works out, and no regrets ever. Sad to have not received any other responses besides yours. This is the one place I have gone to before where I get the best advice and support. Oh well.
Now for the transgender part and then I'll shut up. My anxiety goes back to my memory to age 7ish, always my primary problem and most feared mental state. Age 10 was the last time I remember being happy until now. In 4th grade I used to sneak into the coat closet before school and take off my training bra and then sneak back in after school and put it back on to go home. I started my period in July before 6th grade began and by September I was deeply depressed. My depression persisted ruthlessly for 22 years. There has been maybe 10 times when I kinda sorta maybe had some atypical signs of hypomania in those 22 years. I have had OCD problems. Obsessive handwasher in middle school. Tried drinking myself to death. Countless alcohol poisonings. Stage 1 liver failure at age 18. Sober before ever having a legal drink, and if I hadn't would have been dead by 21. Drug addict and got clean at the same time as getting sober. Was a cutter for a long time. Wanted to destroy myself or be destroyed by others. Prayed for diseases and brain tumors. Went years where I was suicidal and depressed. Attempted suicide a few times, once with a lithium overdose. Never knew a thing in the world about transsexuality and transgenderism until age 31. Not sure why but that's my story. Made a few statements regarding gender confusion to a few therapists but never talked about it further. In Israel where I lived for 14 months 2007-2008, I told me therapist that I didn't want breasts or a period but didn't know why, that every time I had my period from the first time I felt like I had a hatchet between my legs that only I could see. June 2009 had chest reconstruction and a hysterectomy. Lived as "genderqueer" and androgynous for a year and it was the most miserable year of my life yet my family was happy thinking I was happy and that I hadn't gone on hormones. I was always a tomboy and very masculine and "mistaken" for male from a very young age. Started hormones (testosterone) May 2010. Began being perceived as male full time within 4-5 months. I'm happy as a lark now. No signs of depression for months. No mania. No feeling or even having suicide at the bottom of my list; it's not even on my list. Brain is being wired correctly, finally, by the correct hormones. My doctors think my brain is literally rejecting the meds that it doesn't need. I have transitioned fully medically and legally and socially within 7 months of being on T. All I have left to do is take T injections weekly, have genital surgery hopefully in June 2012, and live and love life, finally, after all of this misery. Give me some surgeries and hormones and a new name, etc. and voila! If only it had happened 22 years ago. But no regrets, right? It saddens me deeply that transgenderism is in the DSM. It is a birth defect, a medical condition, and research in America and around the world supports that. I am proud that I have never been diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder and that I've never needed a gatekeeping letter from a therapist for anything I have done to correct my birth defect. My PCP administers my hormones hence the every 3 months bloodwork. Transsexuality was added to the DSM by Harry Benjamin in the 50s yet there has never been a screening or assessment tool created for it yet there has been for virtually every other disorder in the DSM. It is a tragedy of epic proportions. I know fellow transmen from online who were misdiagnosed as bipolar as adolescents or young adults, medicated wrongly and then after starting T they became stable and happy and are all off meds and have no co-occurring mood instability. And I know there are others out there. Again, a tragedy of epic proportions.
I've certainly written enough at this point. If you've made it to now you're amazing! If anyone has questions for me or any advice about going off meds and finding the ones I truly
need, please speak up. I know I have an anxiety disorder. I know DBT will help me a lot. My psychiatrist said after 11 years of heavy medication my brain may be impaired in its ability to produce all of the neurotransmitters it needs on its own again, so regardless of whether or not I'm actually bipolar or not, I may need some mild bipolar meds so my brain functions properly. And I may have some agitation issues that may need to be addressed, but who knows how. I clearly have ADHD and always have, but treating me for it medicinally may be impossible because they are stimulants, and again, whether or not I'm bipolar or not is irrelevant if my brain has been taught over time that it is. Klonopin may be my only anxiety med option since anti-depressants also can cause agitation.Again, I am not anti-medication, anti-psychiatry, or anti-bipolar diagnosis. I definitely am anti-lithium, with just cause. I just want to do things right for the first time. What a long strange trip....
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Be well,
Ami (Ah-Me)
Posted by creepy on December 27, 2010, at 14:03:38
In reply to Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by BearNCrow on December 22, 2010, at 22:13:32
If you have had hypomanic symptoms without a medication contributing to them that greatly increases the odds its bipolar.
There are other illnesses that can mimic hypomania (like PTSD hyperarousal) and its hard to pick them apart. This is where a second opinion is valuable.
If you do have hypomanic episodes you will probably want to be on something. It doesnt necessarily need to be lithium or a drug that needs blood tests.
That you got sick wasnt lithiums fault, blood levels will change and you need regular tests and dose adjustments to keep it at therapeutic (versus toxic) level.
Be very careful in dropping lithium.. if your symptoms return you may need someone to keep an eye on you, preferably your doc.
Ever considered lamictal? Not very powerful against mania but its usually good on depression.
Posted by BearNCrow on December 27, 2010, at 19:17:24
In reply to Re: Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by creepy on December 27, 2010, at 14:03:38
Most of the times I've been "hypomanic" were when a medication that can cause it was added. I think my "hypomania" is really just my own overendorsement of feelings and poor emotion regulation. We'll see what DBT does for me. I've been off of lithium 2+ weeks now cold turkey and there's no mania or hypomania to be found. Just life returning to my numbed out mind. Lots of sleeping because of my sleep disorder of not being able to move out of Stage 2 sleep. And incomprehensible amounts of physical pain from a painful back condition that at age 33 is making me severely physically disabled. I, sadly, predict loss of use of my left leg in the next week or two and, hopefully, spinal surgery before that can happen, which means possibly in the next week. Any depression I'm having right now is situational, and I'm handling life's stresses amazingly well compared to the past when there were far fewer stressors. Anxiety is under control. Lamictal did nothing for me. As was the case with most medications. All I want and need, I think, is Neurontin for sleep, Klonopin for anxiety and a very low dose of a mood stabilizer just to be safe. Something for ADHD would be great but I probably won't risk it and will try and learn cognitive-behavioral techniques for controlling it. For the record, I have had so many second opinions these past 11+ years it's hard to count them all. And all signs and symptoms are pointing to the fact that I probably have had chronic lithium toxicity building up for months and acute lithium toxicity for weeks culminating in 5 or so days of severe illness. Never again. My psychiatrist was negligent in my opinion by not responding to signs and symptoms with a simple blood test.
Posted by creepy on December 29, 2010, at 8:27:42
In reply to Re: Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar » creepy, posted by BearNCrow on December 27, 2010, at 19:17:24
If you take anything for pain just keep an eye out for any psych symptoms. Neurontin / lyrica are good on pain but they can make you a bit ditzy. pain meds can mess with your moods a bit.
Posted by jjjaspar on January 4, 2011, at 13:18:24
In reply to Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by BearNCrow on December 22, 2010, at 22:13:32
> My entire medical, both mental health and non mental health, treatment team is on board. There are too many signs that the diagnosis was probably wrong from the beginning,
A family member's therapist said the same thing, and he was right. Years of psychiatric meds & multiple psych hospitalizations turned out to be wrong.
Good luck.
Posted by BearNCrow on January 4, 2011, at 15:32:16
In reply to Re: Going Off Meds - Possible Misdiagnosis Of Bipolar, posted by jjjaspar on January 4, 2011, at 13:18:24
Thanks for hearing me!
> > My entire medical, both mental health and non mental health, treatment team is on board. There are too many signs that the diagnosis was probably wrong from the beginning,
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> A family member's therapist said the same thing, and he was right. Years of psychiatric meds & multiple psych hospitalizations turned out to be wrong.
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> Good luck.
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