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Posted by smoothste1 on September 25, 2012, at 11:49:29
I have been on vanlafexine for about 11 years.First at 10mg then up to 225mg.The thing is i really do not feel well or normal thoughts and feelings,i feel like effexor is a waste of time,it does absolutly nothing to stop depression,so i just plod along.About 8 years ago i made my mind i wanted to get off effexor,so i was on xl version,and every day i would break open a capsule and take so many beads out each day.Basically i would take more out each week.This took me 1 year cutting down slowly.The best way so i thought.Then i was down to the last day of taking any beads,i took aprox 6/7 beads then i was finished with it.The next morning,i was so mentally ill.It was like a blanket covered my head,everything was blurred,the low was almost suisudal.I was on 100mg dexedrine also and the dexedrine when i took it,didnt work properly.I was not getting any good feeling from effexor withdrawl.I could feel it working a bit in my brain but the withdrawl of effexor was at the very front of my brain.I went to see my doc.Immediatly after a year of withdrawl he put me on 225mg again.I was just glad to get rid of the head pains.This year,i dont know how others cope,i went to see a new gp,she put me not on the capsule xl effexor,but round white pills.About the size of 5p.After 10 days i started to feel slightly diffrent,but i didnt understand or know it was a change of med with the effexor,well not the med but the type of med.Time went on and i got worse and worse.I could not go out,i was terrified,the feeling i had was awful,heartbeat out of rythen,sleep was up the wall.Until i was going totally mad,if i stood up to answer the phone from the sofa i would go dizzy,then black out and fall backwards this happened 30 plus times.The time went so slow,then i realised what it was,the efexor tablet form.I rushed to the docs and explained,she didnt seam to bothered but prescribed the capsuals.It must of took at least a couple of months to stop becoming dizzy and pass out......But i do not like effexor.I want off-it.I really do.Can somebody explain the best way to withdraw from it,can i take something else to help with the withdrawl maybe prozac,im not sure at all.And if my side effects is like 1 in 10,000 well im sure there leaflet knows how many millions are on this drug.My mum and nan died a few years ago,but if i cut 1 down to try it,i become extremely bereaved,dangerously sad and i want to cry as i miss them.Its an awful drug i hate it.Please get me off this cocktail of beads....
Posted by ChicagoKat on September 25, 2012, at 15:04:47
In reply to Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 25, 2012, at 11:49:29
> I have been on vanlafexine for about 11 years.First at 10mg then up to 225mg.The thing is i really do not feel well or normal thoughts and feelings,i feel like effexor is a waste of time,it does absolutly nothing to stop depression,so i just plod along.About 8 years ago i made my mind i wanted to get off effexor,so i was on xl version,and every day i would break open a capsule and take so many beads out each day.Basically i would take more out each week.This took me 1 year cutting down slowly.The best way so i thought.Then i was down to the last day of taking any beads,i took aprox 6/7 beads then i was finished with it.The next morning,i was so mentally ill.It was like a blanket covered my head,everything was blurred,the low was almost suisudal.I was on 100mg dexedrine also and the dexedrine when i took it,didnt work properly.I was not getting any good feeling from effexor withdrawl.I could feel it working a bit in my brain but the withdrawl of effexor was at the very front of my brain.I went to see my doc.Immediatly after a year of withdrawl he put me on 225mg again.I was just glad to get rid of the head pains.This year,i dont know how others cope,i went to see a new gp,she put me not on the capsule xl effexor,but round white pills.About the size of 5p.After 10 days i started to feel slightly diffrent,but i didnt understand or know it was a change of med with the effexor,well not the med but the type of med.Time went on and i got worse and worse.I could not go out,i was terrified,the feeling i had was awful,heartbeat out of rythen,sleep was up the wall.Until i was going totally mad,if i stood up to answer the phone from the sofa i would go dizzy,then black out and fall backwards this happened 30 plus times.The time went so slow,then i realised what it was,the efexor tablet form.I rushed to the docs and explained,she didnt seam to bothered but prescribed the capsuals.It must of took at least a couple of months to stop becoming dizzy and pass out......But i do not like effexor.I want off-it.I really do.Can somebody explain the best way to withdraw from it,can i take something else to help with the withdrawl maybe prozac,im not sure at all.And if my side effects is like 1 in 10,000 well im sure there leaflet knows how many millions are on this drug.My mum and nan died a few years ago,but if i cut 1 down to try it,i become extremely bereaved,dangerously sad and i want to cry as i miss them.Its an awful drug i hate it.Please get me off this cocktail of beads....
You mentioned seeing a GP. Have you seen a psychiatrist about this? He or she would be in a much better position to help you withdraw from effexor. He or she will have more knowledge and experience, and can prescribe you drugs that will help take the edge off the withdrawal. They may even be able to prescribe a different antidepressant tnat will negate any withdrawal effects at all. That's what happened with me. I was on Effexor and my psychiatrist prescribed Lexapro and I simply switched one morning and had no side effects at all. I admit I am lucky that way though; I don't usually have too much trouble with withdrawal. Good luck to you, and if you have any questions, we are all right here.
Regards,
Kat
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 25, 2012, at 18:24:12
In reply to Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 25, 2012, at 11:49:29
Get your dose of Effexor down to 150mg, and hold it there for a few weeks to stabalise.
Then, get a script from your doctor for Prozac 20mg capsules. Stop taking the Effexor, and start taking the Prozac, 2 capsules each morning. This should cover the withdrawl of the Effexor. Also get from your doctor a script for a small quantity of a benzo tranquilizer, say 20 tablets of Xanax, Ativan, Valium etc. Take a pill when you feel especialy bad, they will be very helpful during the first few days of the change over. Also have some Unisom Sleepgels on hand, one or two at night will help you get decent sleep during the first few days of the change over.
After you have been on Prozac 2 capsules a day for 4 weeks, cut it back to one capsule a day for 4 weeks. After that 4 weeks, cut it back to one capsule every second day for 4 weeks, then stop.
Prozac has such a long half life that it is self tapering, it can cover the withdrawl of other SRI's, but shouldnt cause any withdrawl symptoms of its own.
At thend of this time you should be antidepressant free.
At this point, if you feel you need antidepressant therapy, it would be worth trying Zolfot (an SSRI) plus either nortriptyline or Welbutrin (NARI's)
Posted by phidippus on September 26, 2012, at 14:33:10
In reply to Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 25, 2012, at 11:49:29
What medications are you on?
Eric
Posted by ChicagoKat on September 26, 2012, at 16:30:43
In reply to Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 25, 2012, at 11:49:29
> I have been on vanlafexine for about 11 years.First at 10mg then up to 225mg.The thing is i really do not feel well or normal thoughts and feelings,i feel like effexor is a waste of time,it does absolutly nothing to stop depression,so i just plod along.About 8 years ago i made my mind i wanted to get off effexor,so i was on xl version,and every day i would break open a capsule and take so many beads out each day.Basically i would take more out each week.This took me 1 year cutting down slowly.The best way so i thought.Then i was down to the last day of taking any beads,i took aprox 6/7 beads then i was finished with it.The next morning,i was so mentally ill.It was like a blanket covered my head,everything was blurred,the low was almost suisudal.I was on 100mg dexedrine also and the dexedrine when i took it,didnt work properly.I was not getting any good feeling from effexor withdrawl.I could feel it working a bit in my brain but the withdrawl of effexor was at the very front of my brain.I went to see my doc.Immediatly after a year of withdrawl he put me on 225mg again.I was just glad to get rid of the head pains.This year,i dont know how others cope,i went to see a new gp,she put me not on the capsule xl effexor,but round white pills.About the size of 5p.After 10 days i started to feel slightly diffrent,but i didnt understand or know it was a change of med with the effexor,well not the med but the type of med.Time went on and i got worse and worse.I could not go out,i was terrified,the feeling i had was awful,heartbeat out of rythen,sleep was up the wall.Until i was going totally mad,if i stood up to answer the phone from the sofa i would go dizzy,then black out and fall backwards this happened 30 plus times.The time went so slow,then i realised what it was,the efexor tablet form.I rushed to the docs and explained,she didnt seam to bothered but prescribed the capsuals.It must of took at least a couple of months to stop becoming dizzy and pass out......But i do not like effexor.I want off-it.I really do.Can somebody explain the best way to withdraw from it,can i take something else to help with the withdrawl maybe prozac,im not sure at all.And if my side effects is like 1 in 10,000 well im sure there leaflet knows how many millions are on this drug.My mum and nan died a few years ago,but if i cut 1 down to try it,i become extremely bereaved,dangerously sad and i want to cry as i miss them.Its an awful drug i hate it.Please get me off this cocktail of beads....
Smoothste1, after reading your other post about your psychosis on massive doses of Dexadrine, and now reading about how you are on a huge dose of Effexor, I really think you need to be in the hospital for detox. Juno offers very good advice about withdrawing from Effextor; Prozac's long half-life is very useful, but your other post where you were imagining people talking to you from the moon and how you hung wire hangers in front of your door so you'd be alerted if someone came in have me very scared for your well-being. You are on too many drugs at way too high doses and being hospitalized is the only way you are going to be able to safely and relatively comfortably come off of them. Then you need a good psychiatrist..NOT a GP..to prescribe you drugs that will help you at doses that will not hurt you. After reading your two posts I am feeling like you are lucky to be alive. Please go to the hospital and get this taken care of once and for all. Only then will you get your life back and have a chance for happiness. I'm very sorry to read your Mom and your Aunt died; that only makes things a million times worse, but you can get through it, and you have friends here on this forum. Please get yourself to a psychiatric hospital so I don't have to worry.
All my best,
Kat
Posted by smoothste1 on September 26, 2012, at 17:14:30
In reply to Re: Effexor,can some1 give me advice..... » smoothste1, posted by phidippus on September 26, 2012, at 14:33:10
Hi mate you asked the meds i am on now,well they do swap and change them a lot but at the moment im on.......amisulpride 400mg all daily,diazipam 20mg,zopiclone 7.5mg,effexor 225mg,codine phospate 30mg 2 boxs a week,and then there is Dexedine (dexamphetamine) on and off usually 100mg or if its a not time i have aprox 5 grams of speed/whiz/billy,also on ventolin inhailor which i use a lot cheers m8 ste
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 26, 2012, at 19:43:32
In reply to Re: Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 26, 2012, at 17:14:30
Given that cocktail, yes, I think inpatient psychiatric treatment in a detox center is the way to go
Posted by phidippus on September 27, 2012, at 15:47:42
In reply to Re: Effexor,can some1 give me advice....., posted by smoothste1 on September 26, 2012, at 17:14:30
Why do you need help with your drug regiment?
Eric
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