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Posted by jpa on December 21, 2013, at 11:04:27
Has anyone found Stablon helps in reducing anxiety?
I'm on a low dose of remeron and a TCA and considering adding Stablon.
I also take 250mg 4 times a day of picamilon.
desperate for some anxiety relief.
Posted by bleauberry on December 21, 2013, at 14:04:22
In reply to Stablon, posted by jpa on December 21, 2013, at 11:04:27
I tried Stablon several times and overall I liked it.
The very first day it hits dopamine pretty good and could jack up the anxiety but that is very short-lived. By day 3 or 4 things get nice and calm. 25mg or less is more on the stimulating yet relaxed side, higher than 25mg is more of an expected antipsychotic effect.
It has a way of raising prolactin which can make it difficult for a man to get it up and get excited. That is the only prob I had with it.
The kind of anxiety you have, I dunno, that tells me there is something else going on that is non-psychiatric which is actually causing the symptoms. Infection, toxins, inflammation, something in that area.
I should maybe write a book on this stuff because when I mention it here, it appears greek to anyone who has not ventured outside the psychiatric box and they don't really get it. Most would not have a clue what to look for or how to test various suspects or even what basic nutrients and herbs can do when used properly.
I guess if I had to make just one suggestion as a strong contender to help you, it would be the herb Rhodiola Rosea.
It is a tricky one, taking on different characteristics depending on the size of the dose....more stimulating, yet calm, on lower doses, and more calming everything-is-ok feeling at higher doses. My dose is 100mg but most people shoot for the 400mg range.One that has saved me on multiple occasions, most especially in the months weaning off of 8 years of zyprexa, was the herb Lemon Balm (tincture form). A dropper full of that under the tongue or in a glass of water can stop all the noise in about 30 minutes, and if it isn't enough a 2nd or 3rd will. I used it on an as-needed basis, not on a regular basis. Excellent first aid tool for anxiety sufferers.
Posted by sigismund on December 21, 2013, at 17:15:43
In reply to Re: Stablon, posted by bleauberry on December 21, 2013, at 14:04:22
Is that a lot of picamilon?
It agitated me when I took a higher dose.Stablon helps a bit with anxiety, but not that much.
Posted by sukarno on January 3, 2014, at 12:56:52
In reply to Re: Stablon, posted by sigismund on December 21, 2013, at 17:15:43
I took Stablon for 5 years.
I feel it helped a little with anxiety but
didn't work in the long run for depression.Everyone is different but it gave me
obsessions about gambling and frequent
thoughts about sex. After quitting Stablon
those effects vanished.It's quite an expensive medication unless
it is available by generic somewhere. The
name of the drug is tianeptine.Some people experience liver toxicity.
If you decide to take it, get a liver function
test (it's a simple blood draw) within 30 days
of beginning Stablon.Good luck. :-)
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