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Posted by Lamdage22 on October 19, 2015, at 13:56:53
So every time i forget to take Effexor in the morning, i am more suicidal than the last time i forgot.
This tells me to wein myself off with the same caution i apply with the antipsychotics and in slow motion. A small reduction every 3 months of stability. I have cut a little bit of the pill this morning and i am 100% fine.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 19, 2015, at 14:02:05
In reply to Drug addiction, posted by Lamdage22 on October 19, 2015, at 13:56:53
effexor has high response rates to depression and mood lift but it also has bad withdraw effects than other antidepressants
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 19, 2015, at 14:13:55
In reply to Re: Drug addiction, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 19, 2015, at 14:02:05
I didnt think that 37.5 mg would be a big deal withdrawal wise and that i have to taper it.. I dont even want to know how it is if you took 370mg for years.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 19, 2015, at 21:45:18
In reply to Re: Drug addiction, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 19, 2015, at 14:02:05
but yea your on 37.5mg that shouldnt really cause that ..... but effexor is a vary effective antidepressant, it boosts the mood well, better than prozac in alot of studies but it just it's withdrawl effects that are not good....
some people are super sesitive to meds, even at low doses, and then some people have to have high doses to get an effect......
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 10:32:03
In reply to Re: Drug addiction, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 19, 2015, at 21:45:18
I dont want go down the road of poop out and then increasing the dose. What i call my "underlying depression" seems to get worse on Venlafaxine. Because every time i miss a dose i feel worse and worse.
Thats frightening. I dont want to be dependent like that.
The last time i came off Venlafaxine, pretty much the only thing i noticed was that i was crying more and was more emotional. I wasnt worse. Actually my friends at the time suggested that i take nothing because i wasnt doing that bad.
Thats all. So christempowereds notion that SSRI and related drugs are novocaine makes perfect sense to me.> but yea your on 37.5mg that shouldnt really cause that ..... but effexor is a vary effective antidepressant, it boosts the mood well, better than prozac in alot of studies but it just it's withdrawl effects that are not good....
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Posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 10:48:20
In reply to Re: Effexor Drug addiction, posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 10:32:03
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 13:32:49
In reply to Is Effexor XR better for withdrawal than non XR? (nm), posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 10:48:20
Nobody telling me that this is my underlying illness and not drug withdrawal? No Lou?
Come on, i want some attention :)
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 21, 2015, at 0:30:53
In reply to Re: Effexor Drug addiction, posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2015, at 10:32:03
this is how i see it, if i don't take prozac i will start to emotionally sink in the following days, it gets harder to function and have heavy emotions and sluggish, but see antidepressants are not narcotics, and there not considered drugs of abuse (at least for SSRI's, and wellbutrin, effexor)
they alter ways on the nuerotransmitter levels, but there not a drug that gives like a pleasure like opiates, stimulants, or basically a drug that produces drug liking to take more.......
scenario: you go to a pharmancy and you tell them your low on your antidepressant, there less likey to be hesitant than to do that with xanax or controlled substances......they don't loan those out because there federally controlled because there known to be abused and cause addiction......
with antidepressants there not drugs which get you high, but they do still have some depedency issues when there discontinued but it's not the same with controlled substances.....that's why you see people going to getting treated for being on controlled substances and they use less likely substances, say someone is depedent on methamphetamine and can't function and has major depression from discontinuation, wellbutrin and effexor are known to be used for that condition.....because it produces a small effect, but not the euphoria the meth produced........
so it's confusing but there not the same as controlled substances in causing addiction symptoms
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 21, 2015, at 12:25:06
In reply to Re: Effexor Drug addiction, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 21, 2015, at 0:30:53
No its not like cocaine or opiates. Of course not. But withdrawal effects nevertheless.
I was never going to take more than 37.5mg and i feel it is pooping out.Also, im not that keen anymore on Glyx-13 (Rapastinel). For all i know, it might be pretty addicting just like Ketamine.
The saying "what goes up must come down" got me thinking!!!
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