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Posted by b2chica on November 3, 2015, at 22:44:48
i've been on my typical roll of lack of sleep since beginning of october. last couple weeks i am at the stage of not needing the sleep. Now, not only do i not need sleep but am agitated in evenings. Tonight is really rough. i want to just gobble up some pills to knock the sh&* out of me. i'm agitated, but feel good!! but yet i have images and STRONG desires to rip the sh#@ out of myself, of blow my head off. sorry for the strong language but how i'm feeling. i don't feel in danger now as i'm older and have become stronger when i am at home (have kids).
the odd part is i'm completely cognizant of what is going on. i know this is part of my disorder. i KNOW alcohol doesn't help, but i REALLY needed a couple beers tonight!!
Now kids asleep, family inside. i'm outside on laptop. and trying to write, but all i can think of are very angry violent images of me harming myself.... severe harm...
back to the awareness. i know logically i will not act on these images... yet i can't seem to either stop them, or let them just pass. because when they come i say i KNOW i won't act, 'but i want to..." whispered silently in the back of my brain...besides gobbling up too much xanax and hydrocodone... any suggestions/????????????????????????????????
i HATE BEING FU&&*&NG 'Mixed States!!!
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btw... i've missed everyone.
its been a while, but have had so much happen... i'm still dealing with a little left over PTSD from my last job's departure. but better.-B2chica
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 4, 2015, at 19:25:22
In reply to manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 3, 2015, at 22:44:48
> i've been on my typical roll of lack of sleep since beginning of october. last couple weeks i am at the stage of not needing the sleep. Now, not only do i not need sleep but am agitated in evenings. Tonight is really rough. i want to just gobble up some pills to knock the sh&* out of me. i'm agitated, but feel good!! but yet i have images and STRONG desires to rip the sh#@ out of myself, of blow my head off. sorry for the strong language but how i'm feeling. i don't feel in danger now as i'm older and have become stronger when i am at home (have kids).
> the odd part is i'm completely cognizant of what is going on. i know this is part of my disorder. i KNOW alcohol doesn't help, but i REALLY needed a couple beers tonight!!
> Now kids asleep, family inside. i'm outside on laptop. and trying to write, but all i can think of are very angry violent images of me harming myself.... severe harm...
> back to the awareness. i know logically i will not act on these images... yet i can't seem to either stop them, or let them just pass. because when they come i say i KNOW i won't act, 'but i want to..." whispered silently in the back of my brain...
>
> besides gobbling up too much xanax and hydrocodone... any suggestions/????????????????????????????????
>
> i HATE BEING FU&&*&NG 'Mixed States!!!
> -
> btw... i've missed everyone.
> its been a while, but have had so much happen... i'm still dealing with a little left over PTSD from my last job's departure. but better.
>
> -B2chica
>
> B2,
You wrote,[...blow my head off...any suggestions...].
The road that you describe here that you are on can lead to destruction. Be it the drugs that kill you or by your own hand. If anyone suggests to you to take more drugs, how could that direct you to a different road that leads to life?
You see, it has been revealed to me that your mind has been opened to forces that could compel you to kill yourself. And, the forces are going unopposed by God-life. And as long as those forces are unopposed, they could cause you to have strong desires to want to kill yourself.
You can read it in the morning papers, hear it on the radio, people killing on campuses, people murdering in picture shows. The one thing that is mostly common, is that they had a psychiatrist give them a pill, we need a whole lot more of God-life, and a lot less drugs that kill.
Lou
Posted by Zyprexa on November 4, 2015, at 23:51:46
In reply to manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 3, 2015, at 22:44:48
Hey B2chica,
You know what I would suggest.
My zyprexa has started working whole lot better lately. I only need half the 20mg pills now. Instead of the whole thing, lately. I'm not sure if its because they are a new bottle or what. But I cut the pills into 6 and take 3 a day.
I've also started taking CBD oil, canabidiol. That seems to be helping too. Its no where near as expensive as pot and seems to do the trick.
I still have my job delivering pizza, 7 years now. And I just got renewed on the SSDI.
Zyprexa
Posted by b2chica on November 6, 2015, at 10:12:02
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by Zyprexa on November 4, 2015, at 23:51:46
> Hey B2chica,
>
> You know what I would suggest.
>
> My zyprexa has started working whole lot better lately. I only need half the 20mg pills now. Instead of the whole thing, lately. I'm not sure if its because they are a new bottle or what. But I cut the pills into 6 and take 3 a day.
>
> I've also started taking CBD oil, canabidiol. That seems to be helping too. Its no where near as expensive as pot and seems to do the trick.
>
> I still have my job delivering pizza, 7 years now. And I just got renewed on the SSDI.
>
> Zyprexa
hey Z.
i got some ativan, but am dropped mood wise like a rock today...
ihave 2 questions for you.
-what was the generic mfg for your zyprexa you said worked well/ was it bindo something?
-where do you get CBD oil, canabidiol?i'm so tired now... all day. its sucking the life outta me. gotta do something. i'm already up to 192lbs (more than when i was pregnant) also having chronic back and severe neck pains. i assume due to weight... so why not pile on more. ...
-signed "miserable, and only getting worse"
b2
Posted by Phillipa on November 7, 2015, at 21:22:39
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 6, 2015, at 10:12:02
B2chica don't really post here anymore. But you have a special place in my heart. Still now working? How are your Daughters? Phillipa
Posted by b2chica on November 7, 2015, at 22:22:47
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas » b2chica, posted by Phillipa on November 7, 2015, at 21:22:39
hey P.
i was able to get a part time job, which allowed me to roll over my health ins. so i didn't loose everything. kids are beautiful.
they are the reason i haven't fallen on a train track yet. Sometimes that hurts more thought. because i've lost my 'out'. now...when i struggle, i seem to fall deeper inside myself because i'm no longer 'allowed' to express my pain externally by way of suicidal means. So i go, well...sometimes i get to far inside. there's been times i've been afraid i couldn't get back out. i think last fall and Jan this year were the worst i've been in 10 years.
anyway. i'm in a wobbly state. needed to come here. the problem is ins. stopped covering zyprexa because there are so many generics... i've tried most generics and had terrible side effects. i think i have one brand that was not bad... but can recall mfg. i will try that again here in about a week, if the ativan my pdoc gave me doesn't kick in.
tnx p.
take care.
Posted by Phillipa on November 8, 2015, at 20:16:50
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 7, 2015, at 22:22:47
Glad you got the part-time job. As for the zyprexa. I think I can have him come to babble to respond to your post as facebook friend of mine. You are getting better. Having the girls you know you have to keep it together so to speak. Will leave him a message now. Jan
Posted by Zyprexa on November 9, 2015, at 1:59:34
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 6, 2015, at 10:12:02
I stoped taking aurobindo, a few years ago. Teva is what I'm taking for the longest while. It seems to have lower weight gain than aurobindo or zyprexa. Has about half the weight gain of zyprexa. I'm taking 20mg of the teva. I cut back for a little while, 3 weeks, I took half.
If your gaining weight off zyprexa, you should probably take the zyprexa. You probably won't gain more on it. Especialy if its teva.
I get CBD oil from LuckyVitamin.com.
If you take zyprexa again you won't be feeling tired any more. Plus you will get sleep again.
I say you should get olanzapine teva. And take about 10mg. Olanzapine is realy cheap these days. I get 90 of the 20mg pills for like $30-40. Total price. You can get it at costco. Or maybe walmart.
Just make shore you take enough and for long enough to start working. It takes some getting used to, taking the generic but seems to work the same after a while.Good luck!
Posted by Zyprexa on November 9, 2015, at 2:03:37
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 7, 2015, at 22:22:47
I think the generic you are talking about is apotex.
Posted by Phillipa on November 9, 2015, at 9:51:01
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by Zyprexa on November 9, 2015, at 2:03:37
Thanks, I knew you would respond. Love Phillipa
Posted by Zyprexa on November 15, 2015, at 12:32:46
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 7, 2015, at 22:22:47
What i'm saying is take enough olanzapine to get an effect that is effective. I find if I don't take enough it may not work so well. Lately I've been finding that I needed a higher dose of olanzapine.
But since starting the CBD oil I have been able to reduce it by 1/3.
How are you doing now? Have you started the olanzapine??
Posted by phidippus on December 3, 2015, at 23:41:32
In reply to manic suicidal ideation, please ideas, posted by b2chica on November 3, 2015, at 22:44:48
Lithium.
What are you on now?
eric
Posted by SLS on December 7, 2015, at 13:53:29
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas » b2chica, posted by Zyprexa on November 15, 2015, at 12:32:46
Hi Zyprexa.
I'm sorry I missed this.
> What i'm saying is take enough olanzapine to get an effect that is effective. I find if I don't take enough it may not work so well. Lately I've been finding that I needed a higher dose of olanzapine.
What dosage of olanzapine (Zyprexa) would you recommend in a manic suicidal emergency? 10 mg for a first dose?
> But since starting the CBD oil I have been able to reduce it by 1/3.
That's fascinating. I read of the potential of CBD to treat schizoid psychosis, but it is cool to see it happen in real life.
- Scott
Posted by phidippus on December 7, 2015, at 16:00:04
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas » Zyprexa, posted by SLS on December 7, 2015, at 13:53:29
I would recommend 10 mg of Zyprexa if you're really wigging out.
Eric
Posted by Zyprexa on December 13, 2015, at 20:56:30
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas » Zyprexa, posted by SLS on December 7, 2015, at 13:53:29
Yes I was thinking 10mg for a woman .. I take 20mg but have been able to cut down on the dose about 1/4 - 1/3 less, for the last 2-3 months. I've been taking about 10-20mg of CBD for the last 4-5 months or so.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 10, 2016, at 12:03:14
In reply to Re: manic suicidal ideation, please ideas » Zyprexa, posted by SLS on December 7, 2015, at 13:53:29
> Hi Zyprexa.
>
> I'm sorry I missed this.
>
> > What i'm saying is take enough olanzapine to get an effect that is effective. I find if I don't take enough it may not work so well. Lately I've been finding that I needed a higher dose of olanzapine.
>
> What dosage of olanzapine (Zyprexa) would you recommend in a manic suicidal emergency? 10 mg for a first dose?
>
> > But since starting the CBD oil I have been able to reduce it by 1/3.
>
> That's fascinating. I read of the potential of CBD to treat schizoid psychosis, but it is cool to see it happen in real life.
>
>
> - ScottCBD for psychosis starts to take an effect with several hundred mg. CBD affects Cytochrome P450 drug metabolism. That is probably why he needs less Zyprexa.
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