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Posted by baseball55 on December 24, 2016, at 20:21:05
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by PeterMartin on December 24, 2016, at 9:07:55
People are organizing like crazy. I know the website change.org has actions people can take. Participating in protests and other actions can make you feel more in control and get you in touch with like-minded people. I know people with no history of mental health problems who can barely contain their anxiety about the direction of the country right now. Anger is a more useful emotion now, though, than anxiety.
Posted by Horse on December 24, 2016, at 23:57:29
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election » PeterMartin, posted by SLS on December 24, 2016, at 8:29:11
Light therapy helps me considerably, and I only started a week ago. My mood tanked after the election. I think every psychotherapy session since Nov 8th has involved the election in portion. I felt grief and anxiety. In fact, my GAD reemerged, and a few panic attacks (oh joy!). I am beginning to feel better with clearer resolve. As the current POTUS said, democracy is not something to take for granted. Keep your eyes on the prize!
Certainly you are not alone in experiencing upticks in anxiety and depression at all.
Posted by Christ_empowered on December 25, 2016, at 3:47:37
In reply to Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by PeterMartin on December 24, 2016, at 1:34:43
I hear ya on this one. Thing is, no matter of psych drugs can make the 99% fully compliant and satisfied. Ain't gonna happen, no sir-ee.
I'm trying to keep a sense of humor about it. Maybe it's the beginning of The Apocalypse?
Social disintegration, the emergence of American Fascism, brought to you by The Electoral College. God bless The Founding Fathers, those rich, old, white male slave owners.
Looks like its Game Over for Amerika. Step back and watch the m*th*rf*ck*r burn. Burn, m*th*rf*ck*r!
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 25, 2016, at 3:54:20
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by Horse on December 24, 2016, at 23:57:29
please dont ask your doctor to put you in a coma. It might put you in the hospital on christmas.
Posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2016, at 10:00:20
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by Lamdage22 on December 25, 2016, at 3:54:20
I'm so relieved at the results of the Election. I'm a Deplorable and proud of it. And believe it or nor the World is going to be a much better place with Trump in office. It's going to take at least a year for the Obamacare to change. So many have lost their insurance and can no longer afford meds due to Obamacare. I subscribe to Medical Newsletter from being an Rn. The articles are skewed due to the media being Controlled by the current administration. When read the comments back from the doctors, the RN's, and other healthcare workers. Some who also take meds for yes mental conditions they are all in defense of Trump and voted for him. The Doctors & RN's say that the media is trying to make others believe they were for the crook Hiliary who should and will be in jail I hope as you or I would be if we did what she's done. And she needs to return the items she stole from the White House when Bill was in office rightfully back to there. So believe it or don't things are going to get better. Rome wasn't build in a day. At least give Trump a chance!!! Phillipa
Posted by SLS on December 25, 2016, at 16:10:38
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results, posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2016, at 10:00:20
Thanks for sharing.
- Scott
Posted by PeterMartin on December 26, 2016, at 14:30:51
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results, posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2016, at 10:00:20
If you are happy/thankful then keep it to yourself or find a political forum. The tone of your message is part of what stirs fear in me. Glad you are thankful but I am suffering and wasn't trying to have a political discussion.
Thanks.
Posted by PeterMartin on December 26, 2016, at 14:38:40
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results, posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2016, at 10:00:20
(hope I didn't sound mean in that last post but would prefer to keep it kinda superficial vs political)
Appreciate all the discussion!
Posted by PeterMartin on December 26, 2016, at 14:48:00
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 24, 2016, at 18:05:17
> i hate to ask, i know your asking for advice, but how does Marplan make you feel? because i've read about it and have been considering it, i talked with my doctor about it. I'm on 80mg of Prozac, maximum dose, and i've tried 120mg of it, didnt really notice any improvement. Prozac does help me get away from depression yet it do still have a mood slump where i'm not content with anything, it's very unpleasant. I do notice if i go days without prozac, i fall in my moods
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> but how does marplan make you feel, does it just make you feel content the mood? like everyting is ok and feel serene.....prozac used to do that, and then after 11 years it lost that effect, yet still does have antidepressant effects
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>It's hard for me to say since I've been on it so long but I think contentment is probably the best word. Along with lamictal it keeps my depression at bay. It's subtle though....not so much a body feeling or anything just a better sense of well-being. I did try Nardil for a period but A LONG time ago in 2005 and from what I remember that was a lot stronger. I don't have any side effects to speak of w Marplan though so that's good (no mJof weight gain...anorgasmia mostly gone after some months...never had a diet issue).
Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2016, at 15:06:32
In reply to Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by PeterMartin on December 24, 2016, at 1:34:43
That's interesting. My depression seems to have improved since Trump got elected.
I had an optimism that I have not had in a long time. Interest rates have been going *up* and I am finally getting a bit more return on my savings.
The problem is that CNN had been crafting / fear mongering a doomsday scenario in order to keep Trump out. Not only didn't it work, but now we have to deal with the fallout from this strategy.
Trump is going to do just fine. Just stop watching CNN. Democrats / CNN are just bitter and are trying to paint Trump out to be something he is not.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2016, at 15:15:04
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election » PeterMartin, posted by baseball55 on December 24, 2016, at 20:21:05
>I know the website change.org has actions people >can take. Participating in protests and other >actions can make you feel more in control and get >you in touch with like-minded people. I know >people with no history of mental health problems >who can barely contain their anxiety about the >direction of the country right now. Anger is a >more useful emotion now, though, than anxiety.
Protesting the election results is a waste of time and will not change anything.
The solution is when you realize that Trump was elected through a democratic process, and he will not be the 'Hitleresque' figure that people paint him out to be.
The stock market has been going UP, because smart business people are actually believing that his planned policies might actually improve the economy. They are investing likewise.
Being homosexual myself, I have *not* been offended in the slightest about Trump getting in. Under Obmama, people have learned to be professional 'offendees'. They decide to be offended about everything, rather than deciding to be resilient and shrugging things off.
If Trump offends you, then make the choice not to be offended. There are always going to be people who offend you. If you live your entire life being offended by anything and everybody, its going to be much more painful than it needs to be.
And again, don't waste your time with useless processes. Trump got elected democratically. Being bitter and protesting for the next 4 years is a waste of time.
Linakdge
Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2016, at 15:18:09
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results, posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2016, at 10:00:20
Thanks for sharing Phillipa.
The fact of that matter is that some people are happy, some people are sad. Some people are miserable, and some are ecstatic.
I didn't want Obama in. But about 4 days after he was elected I decided to move on with my life.
It's sad that CNN has been misrepresenting Trump and painting him out as something to be feared.
Unfortunately, groups of susceptible people have bought into CNN's narrative.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on December 26, 2016, at 15:26:53
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » Phillipa, posted by linkadge on December 26, 2016, at 15:18:09
> Unfortunately, groups of susceptible people have bought into CNN's narrative.
Stop it.
- Scott
Posted by baseball55 on December 26, 2016, at 18:43:29
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » linkadge, posted by SLS on December 26, 2016, at 15:26:53
> > Unfortunately, groups of susceptible people have bought into CNN's narrative.
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> Stop it.
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> - ScottReally. Turning this into an argument about whether Trump's policies are good or bad is not what babble is for.
If someone is feeling bad after the election, they are feeling bad. I was not suggesting protesting Trump's election, but his policies if and when he pursues policies people find disturbing . Taking concrete actions to change things when you are disturbed is better for mental health than worrying by yourself.
I should add that protesting, etc., is what democracy is all about. Even an official you supported and voted for needs his/her feet kept to the fire. An engaged citizenry is the bulwark of democracy.
Posted by PeterMartin on December 26, 2016, at 20:11:05
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » linkadge, posted by SLS on December 26, 2016, at 15:26:53
> > Unfortunately, groups of susceptible people have bought into CNN's narrative.
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> Stop it.
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> - ScottYea It's funny but Freudian projection is what Foxnews (100% pro-GOP) and Turmp use often (saying they're the doing XYZ when in fact it's them doing XYZ) but it's scary how bashing (ANY) media is the thing. This is another thing that scares the crap out of me. I'm afraid of nuclear war. I'm afraid of an angry man running the country. That's all.
But I agree w/ Baseball. I didn't mean to start a political/media bashing discussion.
And I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to get the last word in (I'm sure someone will follow).
I do think being a little cynical about it is the only thing I can do.
I am hoping to make some sort of med change also though to at least _try_ to feel a little better. It's an odd choice but I'm considering talking to my doctor about adding Modifinil. I took that once when samples were avaiable in the mid-00s and I remember it being somewhat helpful. I found a few pubmed studies that showed it can be helpful as an adjunct for BP depression and also seems to be ok w/ MAOIs. The cost was the main reason my doc and I had didn't really discuss it in the past but I found that with a "GoodRX" coupon I can get a 2 month supply for ~$100 (200mg pills which I can split).
Perhaps the addition of Modifinil would allow me to get into video projects which are a hobby of mine that I use to keep my mind off of current events (I haven't been able to enjoy fun things the past couple months).
I could also try going up on Lamictal maybe (from 200mg) but past attempt to do that have just made me tired.
Posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2016, at 9:20:48
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results, posted by PeterMartin on December 26, 2016, at 20:11:05
Best of luck to you. Change is hard to accept. I know from experience. Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on December 27, 2016, at 9:57:08
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » linkadge, posted by SLS on December 26, 2016, at 15:26:53
Stop what?
If you can't see through CNN's sensationalism and fear mongering then you too are susceptible.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2016, at 10:09:44
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » SLS, posted by linkadge on December 27, 2016, at 9:57:08
It's said that the news stations are being controlled by the current administration. Sad. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on December 27, 2016, at 11:41:24
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » SLS, posted by linkadge on December 27, 2016, at 9:57:08
> Stop what?
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> If you can't see through CNN's sensationalism and fear mongering then you too are susceptible.
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> LinkadgeI think it would be best not to discuss personal politics on the Psycho-Babble Medication forum. A discussion of political beliefs is bound to become heated, distracting, and upsetting to those who are susceptible.
Perhaps you can start a thread on the Poltics forum.
- Scott
Posted by Pontormo on December 27, 2016, at 17:43:00
In reply to Re: Thankful for Election Results » linkadge, posted by SLS on December 27, 2016, at 11:41:24
I concur with Scott's request. I have strong views about this issues that have been brought up, but I didn't come here to discuss this, or to hear about it.
I find the comments inflammatory, and unhelpful. So can this just end?
Posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2016, at 9:00:34
In reply to Let's not discuss politics here, posted by Pontormo on December 27, 2016, at 17:43:00
Still not getting notifications of threads such as this that I am participating in any ideas why and why is babble taking so long to show the posts in full? Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on January 4, 2017, at 17:38:01
In reply to Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by PeterMartin on December 24, 2016, at 1:34:43
> Ever since Trump won the election my anxiety has been out of control. ...
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> However now that he is getting closer to taking office and tweeting things about nukes and destabilizing the world my mental health is again way out of control.Hi Peter, I'm sorry the election result has triggered so much fear and anxiety for you, and I hope you'll feel better over time with or without med changes.
It was a big shock to me, too. I was going through a full-on grief reaction with fear, anxiety, and heartache. Every morning I'd wake up, remember what had happened, and feel like I didn't want this life. I decided to give him a chance after his first meeting with Pres. O, then like you I lost hope when the inflammatory tweets started up again. Cue renewed grief cycle :-(
I hope you'll update us as to how you're doing.
Posted by Horse on January 4, 2017, at 22:38:28
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election » PeterMartin, posted by Tabitha on January 4, 2017, at 17:38:01
Posted by phidippus on October 7, 2017, at 14:15:38
In reply to Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by PeterMartin on December 24, 2016, at 1:34:43
You need to talk these fears out. If you're becoming obsessive an SSRI is the way to go.
No medication is really going to help you, though. You need therapy.
Eric
Posted by Phillipa on October 7, 2017, at 17:46:56
In reply to Re: Meds not working well since Trump won the election, posted by phidippus on October 7, 2017, at 14:15:38
Since an older thread how are those of you feeling Now the same or different? Phillipa
This is the end of the thread.
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