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Posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 5:05:40
Hey guys, it turns out that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothipendyl is sold out for the remainder of the year. I agreed with my psychiatrist to up the nighttime Seroquel from 450 to 600. However this makes me feel really weird. I do fall asleep but it doesn't feel well.
Are there similar medications to Prothipendyl?
Posted by undopaminergic on November 7, 2021, at 8:21:34
In reply to Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 5:05:40
> Hey guys, it turns out that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothipendyl is sold out for the remainder of the year. I agreed with my psychiatrist to up the nighttime Seroquel from 450 to 600. However this makes me feel really weird. I do fall asleep but it doesn't feel well.
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> Are there similar medications to Prothipendyl?Structurally, it is closely related to chlorpromazine, but seems to be a weaker dopamine antagonist.
If you want an antihistamine for sleep I suggest cyproheptadine (Periactin).
Have you tried melatonin?
Valerian root works for some too.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 12:28:24
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 7, 2021, at 8:21:34
> If you want an antihistamine for sleep I suggest cyproheptadine (Periactin).
I doubt my doctor will like that idea.
> Have you tried melatonin?
Yep, I have been taking 1mg lately when prothipendyl was still available, today: 2
> Valerian root works for some too.
It does very little for me. I upped the zyprexa a bit. High doses of it are more tolerable for me than high dose Seroquel. I almost felt psychotic. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing I guess.
> -undopaminergic
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Posted by undopaminergic on November 7, 2021, at 14:57:20
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 12:28:24
> > If you want an antihistamine for sleep I suggest cyproheptadine (Periactin).
>
> I doubt my doctor will like that idea.Why's that? It's not any kind of controversial drug, and it is available in some locations (eg. Belgium) without a prescription, so you could order it from there.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 21:33:24
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 7, 2021, at 14:57:20
I fell asleep now, although I am up again. I upped the zyprexa from 5-0-5-7.5 to 5-0-0-15 and upped melatonin from 1 to 2 mg. I usually sleep way too long while still having difficulty falling asleep at night
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 21:41:27
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 21:33:24
Does your *nordic country* have this problem too with drugs being unavailable? I'd expect it to do because its EU, right?
Its bad. They should do something politically.
Posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 2:32:26
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 21:41:27
> Does your *nordic country* have this problem too with drugs being unavailable? I'd expect it to do because its EU, right?
> Its bad. They should do something politically.Yes, some drugs that are approved elsewhere are not available here. That includes Periactin.
-undopaminergic
Posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 2:34:19
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 7, 2021, at 21:33:24
> I upped the zyprexa from 5-0-5-7.5 to 5-0-0-15
I don't know what 5-0-5-7.5 to 5-0-0-15 means.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 8, 2021, at 2:34:35
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 2:32:26
No Prothipendyl is approved alright, it just isnt deliverable until next year. But my sleep is alright now. Thank god.
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 8, 2021, at 2:35:57
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 2:34:19
That is Morning dose-noon dose, evening dose, bedtime dose of Zyprexa.
> I don't know what 5-0-5-7.5 to 5-0-0-15 means.
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> -undopaminergic
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Posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 6:33:28
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 8, 2021, at 2:34:35
> No Prothipendyl is approved alright,
Why do you want prothipendyl exactly? Is there anything particularly good about it?
> it just isnt deliverable until next year.
>We don't have that problem very often.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 8, 2021, at 6:41:37
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 6:33:28
Prior to Prothipendyl being out of stock, it helped me sleep. But honestly, if it just takes 2,5mg more zyprexa and a mg Melatonin ontop, I don't see why I should take it when it is back in stock. It is always better to make do with less right?
> Why do you want prothipendyl exactly? Is there anything particularly good about it?
Posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 7:03:18
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by Lamdage22 on November 8, 2021, at 6:41:37
> Prior to Prothipendyl being out of stock, it helped me sleep. But honestly, if it just takes 2,5mg more zyprexa and a mg Melatonin ontop, I don't see why I should take it when it is back in stock. It is always better to make do with less right?
>Right. As for melatonin, higher doses are not always better.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 19, 2021, at 6:47:28
In reply to Re: Prothipendyl alternative for sleep, posted by undopaminergic on November 8, 2021, at 7:03:18
So it turns out I didn't need the Prothipendyl anymore. I am fine without any other med changes. I may get a little too comfortable with my meds. Comfortable to take but not always necessary. Of course I can't quit everything, I'm not saying that but maybe I can make do with less long term.
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