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Posted by lil' jimi on November 3, 2003, at 15:15:31
hi Lar!
How you been doing?
Listen, i was just on my way over to admin to see what’s up there ... ... when i thought i’d drop by here with this supplement list to get your expert advice, PLEASE ... ... please?
... i’m sort of dx-ed “depressed” and have to take 10 mg of lexapro as punishment ... (ha!) ... ... i’m a 52 yr old guy ...
... then because my sinuses do whatever, i also take a couple snorts per nostril of “Nasacort” per day, usually in the morning ...below we find my supplements ... ... i wash all these guys down with coffee every morning ... (... not too good huh? ... but i LOVE coffee!)
i also eat a varied diet ... ... i like vegetables and fruits ... i eat beef upon occasion(s) ... and grains and chickens and fish and burgers and fries ... ... no, i quit the fries ... a lot fewer sweets these days too ... ... carrots are sweet ... apples ...grapes
do i need to spread this out instead of all at once? ... ... this or something like it, is what i have done for years ... repeated physicals from various and current gp(s) have not shown any liver or kidney inadequacies ....
i used to take st. john’s wort and gingko biloba ... ... but i thought that they had been de-bunked ... ... not so?
everything i am taking is out of sheer superstition ... ... ... i have not read nor seen any scientific research for any of these supplements ... ... well, except for the fish oils .... but that’s because i got that from you ... i’ve been taking the omegas for 5 or 6 months now ...
you are my hero here at Babble ... ... i appreciate your patience and value your advice ... you are a kind, good guy ... thanks! ... ...
~ jimmy supplements 11-3-03
aspirin 650 mg
ibprofen 600 mg
American ginseng @ 5% ginsengosides 500 mg
alpha lipoic acid 250 mg
beta-carotene
... vitamin A 25,000 IU
... with vitamin E (as mixed tocopherol) 5 IU
... lecithin (61% phosphatides) 10 mgniacinamide vitamin B3 500 mg
Manntech Inc. formulations
... Ambrotose Complex 150 mg (proprietary glyconutrient supplement)
... Immuno Start (150 mg bovine colostrum, 20 mg bets1.3/1.6 Glucans, lactoferrin 10 mg, citrus pectin 5mg)
... Glycentials
.. .. (mcg quantities of minerals, et al from “Phytonutrient Complex”)
... ... vitamin A 2,500 IU
... ... vitamin C 250 mg
... ... vitamin D 200 IU
... ... vitamin E 200 IU
... ... thiamine mononitrate 750 mcg
... ... riboflavin 850 mcg
... ... naicin 10 mg
... ... vitamin B6 4 mg
... ... folate 400 mcg
... ... vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin) 12 mcg
... ... biotin 150 mcg
... ... pantothenic acid 5 mg
... ... calcium 500 mg
... ... potassium iodide 75 mcg
... ... magnesium glycinate 250 mg
... ... zinc glycinate 7.5 mg
... ... selenomethionine 100 mcg
... ... copper glycinate 1 mg
... ... manganese glycinate 1 mg
... ... chromium dinicotinate glycinate 100 mcg
... ... molybdenum glycinate 37.5 mcg
... ... boron glycinate 1 mg
... ... silica glycinate 1 mg
... ... vanadium glycinate 25 mcg
... ... inositol 12.5 mg
... ... choline bitartrate 12.5 mg
... ... alpha-lipoic acid 25 mg
... ... quercetin 5 mg
... ... coenzyme Q10 4.5 mgB-100 Caps
... thiamine HCl vitamin B-1 100 mg
... riboflavin vitamin B-2 100 mg
... nicinamide 100 mg
... pyridoxine HCl vitamin B-6 100 mg
... cyonocobalamin vitamin B-12 100 mcg
... biotin 100 mcg
... folic acid 400 mcg
... pantothenic acid (calcium pantothenate) 100 mg
... PABA 10 mg
... choline bitartrate 100 mg
... inositol 100 mgFull Spectrum Minerals
... (note: “acc” = amino acid chelate)
... vitamin D (cholecalicferol) 200 IU
... calcium (from carbonate, acc & citrate) 1000 mg
... iron acc 20 mg
... iodine from kelp 150 mcg
... magnesium oxide, acc & citrate 500 mg
... chromium, yeast-free 100 mcg
... molybdenum acc 50 mcg
... potassium aac 99 mg
... zinc acc 22.5 mg
... l-selenium methionine 50 mcg
... copper acc 1 mg
... manganese acc 5 mg
... l-glutamic acid HCl 50 mg
... boron acc 3 mg
... vanadium acc 50 mcgl-selenomethionine 200 mcg
Super EPA
... omega-3 fatty acids 1200 mg
... .. EPA 720 mg
... .. DHA 480 mg
... mixed alpa-tocopherol vitamin A 2 IUOmega-3
... EPA 360 mg
... DHA 240 mggarlic
... garlic (bulb powder) 650 mg
... allicin potential (1%) 6.5 mgvitamin C
... ascorbic acid 1000 mg
... citrus bioflavonoids (37% as hespridin) 100 mg
... rutin 25 mgCoenzyme Q10 30 mg
... ... ...
below i have done some addition from above ( NOT _in_ addition _to_ the above)
... these are the cumulative amounts below:Sums of Multiple Sourced Supplements Above
vitamin A 25,000 + 2,500 + 2 = 27,502 IU
vitamins B
... B1 thiamine thiamine mononitrate 750 mcg + thiamine HCl 100 mg
... B2 riboflavin 850 mcg + 100 mg
... B3 niacin niacinamide 500 mg + niacin 10 mg
... B6 pyridoxine HCl 100 mg + 4mg
... B12 cyanocobalamin 12 mcg + 100 mcg = 112 mcgvitamin C 250 mg + 1000 mg = 1 ¼ grams
vitamin D 200 IU + cholecalicferol 200 IU
vitamin E 5 IU + 200 IU = 205 IU
EPA 750 mg + 360 mg = 1110 mg
DHA 480 mg + 240 mg = 720 mgfolate 400 mcg
folic acid 400 mcg
biotin 100 mcg + 150 mcg = 250 mcg
pantohenic ac id 5 mg + calcium pantothenate 100 mg
inositol 12.5 mg + 100 mg = 112.5 mg
choline bitartrate 12.5 mg + 100 mg = 112.5 mgalpha lipoic acid 250 mg + 25 mg = 225 mg
co-enzyme Q10 30 mg + 4.5 mg = 34.5 mg
minerals
... selenomethionine 100 mcg + 50 mcg + 200 mcg = 350 mcg... calcium 500 mg + 1000 mg = 1500 mg
... potassium 75 mcg iodide + 99 mg acc
... magnesium 250 mg glycinate + 500 mg oxide, acc & citrate
... zinc 7.5 mg glycinate + 22.5 mg acc
... copper 1 mg glycinate + 1 mg acc
... manganese 1 mg glycinate + 500 mg oxide, acc & citrate
... chromium 100 mcg dinicotinate glycinate + 100 mcg yeast-free
... molybdenum 37.5 mcg glycinate + 50 mcg acc
... boron 1 mg glycinate + 3 mg acc... vanadium 25 mcg glycinate + 50 mcg acc
i'll really appreciate hearing your suggestions ... thanks again!
~ jim
Posted by Kacy on November 5, 2003, at 7:47:36
In reply to my supplements, Lar, posted by lil' jimi on November 3, 2003, at 15:15:31
Lil jimi, a note on the aspirin: my dad, who starting taking daily aspirin after all the publicity about its preventative-measure benefits, just found out that it was aspirin that was causing shooting pains in his eyes. Please check on the side effects of taking aspirin so you recognize them if you get some.
Posted by lil' jimi on November 5, 2003, at 8:21:12
In reply to Re: my supplements, Lar, posted by Kacy on November 5, 2003, at 7:47:36
Hi Kacy,
You are so sweet to share your dad's experience with me ... ... it is so kind of you to express your concern ....
... be assured that, thanks to you, i shall be checking on asprin's side-effects ... to be on the safe side ... ...
as you could see, i'm taking so much stuff that i need help figuring it out ... ... i really appreciate you taking the time to share your information ...
... i hope your father is doing okay ... ... he's in my prayers now ... ... please give him my regards ...
Thanks and Take Care,
~ jim
Posted by Kacy on November 5, 2003, at 11:38:56
In reply to Re: my supplements, Lar, posted by Kacy on November 5, 2003, at 7:47:36
Save your prayers. (And, thanks.) He had seen his doctor and was waiting for results from a specialist's tests when my mom read a story in the paper. He stopped taking aspirin and it went away. The specialist gave him a "nothing I can see wrong" answer. I guess doctors don't know yet to ask about aspirin when they hear that complaint. Since so many people began taking aspirin everyday, I guess they'll learn soon.
Posted by lil' jimi on November 5, 2003, at 11:50:37
In reply to Re: my supplements » Kacy, posted by Kacy on November 5, 2003, at 11:38:56
hi Kacy.
glad to hear Dad's alright ...
please forgive my compulsive generosity with my prayers ...
... ... and if you wouldn't mind ... i would still like to pray for him all the same ...
... prayers don't have that good a self life really ...we may get me re-directed to Faith ...
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on November 5, 2003, at 11:54:20
In reply to Kacy's dad, posted by lil' jimi on November 5, 2003, at 11:50:37
... ... ... ... ... ... ... jim MEANT
... " ... _shelf_ life ...."really ...
... ... ... ha!
~ jim
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 10, 2003, at 7:02:57
In reply to my supplements, Lar, posted by lil' jimi on November 3, 2003, at 15:15:31
Sorry about the delay in answering, dude. You know why....I been busy.
Everything looks well covered. Possibly too much copper. If you've got copper plumbing in your house, you don't need copper supps of any kind.
Why the level of aspirin and ibupprofen? Do you have arthritis? If not, you need only about 40 mg aspirin a day to obtain the health benefits attributed to it.
Lar
Posted by lil' jimi on November 20, 2003, at 22:56:03
In reply to Re: my supplements, Lar » lil' jimi, posted by Larry Hoover on November 10, 2003, at 7:02:57
hi again Lar,
> > Sorry about the delay in answering, dude. You know why....I been busy.
... heh, well it’s all time better spent by me anyway ... took me like two months to write my original post ... after the initial inertial resistance, it was like a week of trying to transcribe all these little bitty numbers from off of the sides of more than a dozen bottles ... ... that was one learning experience all by itself ....
but there’s been learning going on since i posted .... .... plus another dose of the initial inertial resistance (activity adaptation syndrome) .... .... jim can’t be in too big a hurry if he hasn’t at least finished his homework ...
... ... i’m not in a hurry anyway ... and you have been busy, too ...
> > Everything looks well covered.
..... one thing i learned is What the heck i Am taking ... ... man, i Had almost no idea ... ... pure superstition ... ... now i know and i recognized, after i posted, that the mannatech “glycentials”, while being proud of their “phyto nutrient complex”, is nutritionally insignificant compared to the rest of my supplements ... it has a lot of microgram quantities for supplements i’m taking milligrams of ... ... “who knew?” says jim ... until i wrote up my list anyway ....
> > Possibly too much copper. If you've got copper plumbing in your house, you don't need copper supps of any kind.
i have copper plumbing ... ... my multi-mineral gives me 1 mg ... i got another mg from the glycentials, which i am going to quit ... i read that copper can help fight dihydro-testosterone, which is the agent responsible for male-pattern baldness ... ... what are the symptoms of too much copper? ... they start calling me ‘Penny’?
> > Why the level of aspirin and ibupprofen? Do you have arthritis? If not, you need only about 40 mg aspirin a day to obtain the health benefits attributed to it.
... .... i have gotten into this habit of abusing analgesics .... i don’t have arthritis ... ... although i do have significant orthopedic compromises ... ... it is really the allergy/sinus aches which encourage the ibuprofen ... ... plus i heard ibuprofen was shown to decrease the plaques which build up in the brains of alzheimer’s patients ... ... ... the garlic and the aspirin are attempts to help in the fight with my HDL/LDL ratio, to keep it below 3.44 ... ... and i want the blood thinning benefits from the aspirin too ... ... but my triglycerides and total cholesterol are low enough ... ... i work to raise my HDLs ... ... but i can cut back on the aspirin ...
how about my fish oils there? ... i’m getting enough, you think?
should i take some of these supplements separately from each other?
i feel a lot better knowing what i am taking, instead of gobbling 17 pills in blind faith ... thanks for your input!never in a hurry ...
.. ... appreciate your help here ... and always ...thanks!
~ jim
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