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Posted by Ron Jones on November 22, 2003, at 13:19:31
I had a dramatic improvement with blueberry leaf extract.Do not know how it works .Did not relapse after pill wore off.Do not take anything now but fish oil.99% of agoraphobia symptoms are gone.Had constant anxiety,panic attacks ,ocd symptoms and depression before.It stoped it all.One pill lasted 10 days.Freaked me out.Took second pill 3 mo.s latter.Have not taken anymore .This is the only thing that made me better and I stayed better.Have no idea if it works on other people.No idea how it works,only that the leaf has compounds not found in the berry.Have read nothing that says it will do this.Would like to have it studied.It could be that just no one with agoraphobia has tried it before.Never dreamed that it could do this.People think I am lieing but it is the truth.It is just really unreal.Was feeling like a sane person by the end of the day,first time I took it.better than cutting out the amygdala.The monkey lost all sence of sexual orentation.
Posted by zeugma on November 22, 2003, at 17:29:09
In reply to 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Ron Jones on November 22, 2003, at 13:19:31
I have no doubt that taking blueberry leaf extract is far superior to cutting out your amygdala.
Posted by taylor18 on November 23, 2003, at 7:04:44
In reply to 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Ron Jones on November 22, 2003, at 13:19:31
Which brand did you use?
Did you buy it online or at a HFS?
Posted by jparsell82 on November 23, 2003, at 13:09:43
In reply to 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Ron Jones on November 22, 2003, at 13:19:31
Are you being serious? I've seen you post a ton of times about this "blueberry leaf extract". One pill lasted ten days??? What dosage did/are you taking it at? What brand was it? It just sounds kind of strange that it could clear up almost all your anxiet,ocd,ect. without it hardly being known.
Posted by zeugma on November 23, 2003, at 13:18:17
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by jparsell82 on November 23, 2003, at 13:09:43
> Are you being serious? I've seen you post a ton of times about this "blueberry leaf extract". One pill lasted ten days??? What dosage did/are you taking it at? What brand was it? It just sounds kind of strange that it could clear up almost all your anxiet,ocd,ect. without it hardly being known.
Didn't you read my message? It is far preferable, all things considered, to take this extract than to extract your own amygdala.
Posted by Ron Jones on November 23, 2003, at 19:58:02
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia. » jparsell82, posted by zeugma on November 23, 2003, at 13:18:17
I went to Vitamin World and got it by mistake .I was looking for the berry extract.I am 100% serious about this.No one with agoraphobia has taken it before.I may be like lithium.Just something that no one had ever tried or had any idea that it worked.It worked on me and that is a fact.I was feeling like a normal person by the end of the day.I went to Walmart the next day and was totally relaxed.It was just unreal.I got better and stayed better.I did not totally relapse as you do with drugs.The second time I took it it lasted for 10 days.My brain felt supercharged.I take no drugs.I have no idea if it works on other people.It really did this to me.How could you make this up.I just wish it works for other people.I think it effected my orbitol frontal cortex.This seems to be the area of the brain it was working on .It just freaked me out.it was so powerfull.I was thinking that it would never weare off.It turned everything around.I was in one hell of a fix.I felt like a crazy person.Constant anxiety,panic,ocd stuff.DEpersonalisation and feeling of unreality.All that junk.It is 99% gone now.I feel sane and about normal now.I just take the fish oil and vitamins now.THe depersonalsation and feeling of unreality is some bad stuff.The constant anxiety will drive you nuts.I could not even lay in bed without anxiety.My heart would just palapatate laying in bed.I was very weak .I had it all.The noise in the casino would drive me nuts.I hate the OCD stuff.I am so glad that it stoped.I am so much better now that it is unreal compared to how I was.It is unreal what agoraphobia can do to you.Being in a constant state of anxiety is living hell.It was really bad.It was like having Addissons disease.I belive I got adrenal exsaustion from the constant anxiety and panic attacks.It was like a living death.You just feel strange,like a crazy person when you go out in public.You feel like you are going to fall out on the pavement and go insane.You are just scared to death of going insane .You feel constantly dizzy and light headed.You feel that things are unreal.You are not intergrated into the world.You are num with anxiety.You have no energy.You have like 20 symptoms and anyone of them would drive a person to suicide.
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on November 24, 2003, at 13:00:32
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Ron Jones on November 23, 2003, at 19:58:02
http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?xs=93D22E9132A64236B32A88B8A107E2CA&PID=537&np=0
Blueberry Leaf - Vitamin WorldThe blueberry plant is rich in anthocyanins and chlorogenic acid - two
phytochemicals that act as antioxidants.** In addition, blueberries have one of
the highest oxygen radical absorbance capacities (ORAC) available for fruits
and vegetables.** Our Blueberry Leaf Extract is standardized to contain 16%
chlorogenic acid.
Potency 16%
100 Capsules
$11.77
--------------Is that it? I'm just making sure before I order some. I tried everything else by now.
Posted by Ron Jones on November 24, 2003, at 16:45:17
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Wolf Dreamer on November 24, 2003, at 13:00:32
The leaf has compounds not found in the berry.I have no idea why it was so powerfull on me.It is the truth .It may not work on other people.I just do not know.I no longer have panic attacks.I had agoraphobia as bad as it gets.A living hell.I hope it works on other people.I am sure it did something to my orbitol frontal cortex.It can stop ocd and panic.
Posted by Ron Jones on November 24, 2003, at 16:57:55
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Wolf Dreamer on November 24, 2003, at 13:00:32
The people at The Safe Harbor Project are looking at the blueberry leaf extract for me.They look at natural supplements for mental illness.
Posted by jparsell82 on November 25, 2003, at 17:23:29
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia. » jparsell82, posted by zeugma on November 23, 2003, at 13:18:17
> > Are you being serious? I've seen you post a ton of times about this "blueberry leaf extract". One pill lasted ten days??? What dosage did/are you taking it at? What brand was it? It just sounds kind of strange that it could clear up almost all your anxiet,ocd,ect. without it hardly being known.
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> Didn't you read my message? It is far preferable, all things considered, to take this extract than to extract your own amygdala.
>I think you misunderstood. I was talking to Ronjones, he's brought up this blueberry leaf being a supercure a million times already.
Posted by jparsell82 on November 25, 2003, at 17:29:34
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by Ron Jones on November 23, 2003, at 19:58:02
> I went to Vitamin World and got it by mistake .I was looking for the berry extract.I am 100% serious about this.No one with agoraphobia has taken it before.I may be like lithium.Just something that no one had ever tried or had any idea that it worked.It worked on me and that is a fact.I was feeling like a normal person by the end of the day.I went to Walmart the next day and was totally relaxed.It was just unreal.I got better and stayed better.I did not totally relapse as you do with drugs.The second time I took it it lasted for 10 days.My brain felt supercharged.I take no drugs.I have no idea if it works on other people.It really did this to me.How could you make this up.I just wish it works for other people.I think it effected my orbitol frontal cortex.This seems to be the area of the brain it was working on .It just freaked me out.it was so powerfull.I was thinking that it would never weare off.It turned everything around.I was in one hell of a fix.I felt like a crazy person.Constant anxiety,panic,ocd stuff.DEpersonalisation and feeling of unreality.All that junk.It is 99% gone now.I feel sane and about normal now.I just take the fish oil and vitamins now.THe depersonalsation and feeling of unreality is some bad stuff.The constant anxiety will drive you nuts.I could not even lay in bed without anxiety.My heart would just palapatate laying in bed.I was very weak .I had it all.The noise in the casino would drive me nuts.I hate the OCD stuff.I am so glad that it stoped.I am so much better now that it is unreal compared to how I was.It is unreal what agoraphobia can do to you.Being in a constant state of anxiety is living hell.It was really bad.It was like having Addissons disease.I belive I got adrenal exsaustion from the constant anxiety and panic attacks.It was like a living death.You just feel strange,like a crazy person when you go out in public.You feel like you are going to fall out on the pavement and go insane.You are just scared to death of going insane .You feel constantly dizzy and light headed.You feel that things are unreal.You are not intergrated into the world.You are num with anxiety.You have no energy.You have like 20 symptoms and anyone of them would drive a person to suicide.
You no what, actually Ron Jones you do seem to be acting better since you came back to the forums. I can tell just the way you type now... it's not as scattered. You seem more relaxed. Maybe, I will give it a shot. Any preferred brand?
Posted by clairey on December 1, 2003, at 15:13:16
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia. » Ron Jones, posted by jparsell82 on November 25, 2003, at 17:29:34
Do u post on the kellys sjw forum too? as there is someone on there raving about blueberry, strange how it helped.
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 3, 2003, at 12:14:15
In reply to Re: 100% free of panic attacks . had agoraphobia., posted by clairey on December 1, 2003, at 15:13:16
This and there are the only two forums which someone claim that worked. Perhaps he is the only one who was fortunate enough to have such results. It could be a combination of other things he was taking as well, or a change in his life, finding a nice, safe, quiet place to live and work at.
I got my blueberry leaf extract in yesterday afternoon, took it then, later that night, and once again this morning. No amazing effects yet.
Neither is the magnesium taurate, the tryptophan, and the many other things I use having any total effect.
I can clear my mind and stop the thoughts if I find something to distract me now, including working at the computer. If I get distracted though from whatever I'm working at, my mind starts racing again, thinking of all the horrible things that could happen to me if I ever left the house. Not sure if anything has really made any real improvement, although I do feel better than I did months ago.
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