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Posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 18:38:22
Today I went to see a new doctor . It was rare .I really did not like him . He seems to be a very prepared person , intelligent , ( he studied psychopharmacology in HARVARD) . It is just that I need special attention , and It seemed to me that he was careless about me .Too busy for a young student (me). I had Not enough time to tell him my problems .he asked me the same questions many times , I felt ignored .
Anyway he prescribed meNARDIL ADEMETIONINE .
Please help , I dont know if this could help me to treat my social fear.
Do you know this ADEMETIONINE ? ,I don´t know the name in the US Market but my presciption says SAMYR . Never heard that name in this forum before . My doc told me It was a new antidepressive used in italy.
Have you tried this sometime??
Do you think is safe with a MAOI??Please help , I don´t feel confident about taking it
Tep
Posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 18:38:23
In reply to Starting NARDIL ADEMETIONINE . Help !, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:12:51
Posted by linkadge on November 1, 2004, at 18:38:25
In reply to ADEMETIONINE , posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:58:46
That is crazy. I would *not* take this combination before getting another oppinion. I had severe serotonin syndrome upon combining celexa with SAMe. I think combining SAMe and nardil is asking for trouble, you could experience serotonin syndrome, a potentially lethal interaction. SAMe in generally contraindicated in anyone taking prescription antidepressants.
I would *definately* get a second oppinion, before trying this combination. This guy sounds like a nutcase to me.Linkadge
Posted by joebob on November 1, 2004, at 22:06:52
In reply to ADEMETIONINE, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:58:46
it is not new at all, and has been available everywhere in the US over the counter for 5 years or more.......
it's use in italy goes back much further...
it is not that cheap as a supplment, must cost a fortune as a drug....
you can check this site for general info and an idea of price etchttp://www.buysam-e.com/
...there are lots of other sites and brandsi have to agree with linkage, the doctor sounds like a uniformed or misinformed to me...either one could be hurtful to you
search this site (psycho-babble) for sam e, 5htp, and st johns wort, and epa/dha fish oils, there are some very smart and caring people hanging around here
get informed before you go and see that doctor, or another one, again......
finding a good doc can be difficult, maybe you can start here:
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html
good luck and best wishes
joebob
Posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 22:16:12
In reply to Re: ADEMETIONINE, posted by linkadge on November 1, 2004, at 16:08:23
> That is crazy. I would *not* take this combination before getting another oppinion. I had severe serotonin syndrome upon combining celexa with SAMe. I think combining SAMe and nardil is asking for trouble, you could experience serotonin syndrome, a potentially lethal interaction. SAMe in generally contraindicated in anyone taking prescription antidepressants.
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> I would *definately* get a second oppinion, before trying this combination. This guy sounds like a nutcase to me.
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> Linkadge
wow linkadge you have really scared me . Do you think my doctor is nuts??
Maybe he make a mistake and prescribed something not allowed to take with a MAOI .
Like I said before , I felt ignored by him , he was very busy , all his room was a mess , nothing placed in order.I´ll have to wait for more advice then , and not take it until be sure about the safety of this combo
Thank you for your warning link
Posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 22:19:57
In reply to ADEM...is sam-e ..look it up under that name, btw » Tepiaca, posted by joebob on November 1, 2004, at 22:06:52
> it is not new at all, and has been available everywhere in the US over the counter for 5 years or more.......
> it's use in italy goes back much further...
> it is not that cheap as a supplment, must cost a fortune as a drug....
> you can check this site for general info and an idea of price etc
>
> http://www.buysam-e.com/
> ...there are lots of other sites and brands
>
> i have to agree with linkage, the doctor sounds like a uniformed or misinformed to me...either one could be hurtful to you
>
> search this site (psycho-babble) for sam e, 5htp, and st johns wort, and epa/dha fish oils, there are some very smart and caring people hanging around here
>
> get informed before you go and see that doctor, or another one, again......
>
> finding a good doc can be difficult, maybe you can start here:
>
> http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html
>
> good luck and best wishes
>
> joebobomg , how can a doctor from harvad make that mistake ? are you sure is not safe guys ?
joebob thanks to you too . I´ll have to search on the web about this
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 1, 2004, at 23:20:24
In reply to Starting NARDIL ADEMETIONINE . Help !, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:12:51
> Today I went to see a new doctor . It was rare .I really did not like him . He seems to be a very prepared person , intelligent , ( he studied psychopharmacology in HARVARD) . It is just that I need special attention , and It seemed to me that he was careless about me .Too busy for a young student (me). I had Not enough time to tell him my problems .he asked me the same questions many times , I felt ignored .
> Anyway he prescribed me
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> NARDIL ADEMETIONINE .
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> Please help , I dont know if this could help me to treat my social fear.
>
> Do you know this ADEMETIONINE ? ,I don´t know the name in the US Market but my presciption says SAMYR . Never heard that name in this forum before . My doc told me It was a new antidepressive used in italy.
>
> Have you tried this sometime??
> Do you think is safe with a MAOI??
>
> Please help , I don´t feel confident about taking it
>
> TepFrom:http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Interaction/ChooseDrugs
"S-ADENOSYL METHIONINE (SAM-E) may interact with PHENELZINE (in Nardil)
Although the exact causes of this potential interaction are not understood, s-adenosyl methionine (SAM-e) contains substances with antidepressant effects. When it is used with an antidepressant drug, like phenelzine, effects may be increased, decreased, or erratic. In general, it is not advised to take phenelzine at the same time as s-adenosyl methionine (SAM-e) or any other herbal supplement. Inform your doctor before taking s-adenosyl methionine (SAM-e) whether or not you take prescription drugs. Discuss this potential interaction with your healthcare provider at your next appointment, or sooner if you think you are having problems.
This interaction is poorly documented and is considered moderate in severity."
Posted by SLS on November 2, 2004, at 7:52:50
In reply to Re: ADEM...is sam-e ..look it up under that name, btw » joebob, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 22:19:57
Hi.
> omg , how can a doctor from harvad make that mistake ? are you sure is not safe guys ?
> joebob thanks to you too . I´ll have to search on the web about thisYou could possibly tell him that you are concerned based upon some of the things you have read on the Internet, and ask him how many patients he has on this combination.
- Scott
Posted by joebob on November 2, 2004, at 9:21:26
In reply to Starting NARDIL ADEMETIONINE . Help !, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:12:51
harvard, but did not say he graduated in psychopharm or is certified...is he a psychiatrist?
be strong, be smart, question 'authority'
Posted by rod on November 2, 2004, at 17:53:13
In reply to Starting NARDIL ADEMETIONINE . Help !, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:12:51
look at a post I made long time ago:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:aHzhuzq95C8J:www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030714/msgs/242786.html+samyr+site:.dr-bob.org+%22poster:rod%22&hl=deor look at the translated prescription info of Samyr (I dont post a link to the site, because it contains info about obtaining other prescription drugs into the US)
"...INTERACTIONS
SAMYR is compatible with any other anti-depressant treatments, particularly tricyclens and monoaminoxidase inhibitors. Taking ademetionine does not cause negative interactions with alcohol..."
I guess if the official drug monograph of SAMYR says this, its right. And has proven to be safe over a long time, in Italy.
Roland
My diagnoses:
DBD (dead brain disease), NGFFYD (no girlfriend for years desease) :P
last sentence wasnt really serious =)
Posted by Tepiaca on November 2, 2004, at 18:53:31
In reply to Redirect: ADEMETIONINE , posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2004, at 18:39:31
Posted by Tepiaca on November 3, 2004, at 23:18:29
In reply to i did notice you said he 'studied' psychopharm at » Tepiaca, posted by joebob on November 2, 2004, at 9:21:26
> harvard, but did not say he graduated in psychopharm or is certified...is he a psychiatrist?
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> be strong, be smart, question 'authority'well yes ,he is a psychiatrist
he made his specialization in Mclean hospital at harvard . The he did his master degree in research in Psychiatry at Harvard
Posted by Tepiaca on November 3, 2004, at 23:28:45
In reply to Starting NARDIL ADEMETIONINE . Help !, posted by Tepiaca on November 1, 2004, at 14:12:51
thank you both for your advice
I still don´t know what to do . I have tried to call my doctor but he is out of the city , so I guess Im not gonna take anything until he affirms is completely safe to take this combothank you gusy ! =)
tep
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