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Posted by lotus on May 11, 2005, at 14:53:39
Would taking a b complex with TMG to produce Sam e in the body be as effective as taking Sam e itself? If it does work, it would be a heck of alot cheaper.Has anyone here tried this?
Posted by linkadge on May 11, 2005, at 15:11:56
In reply to Sam e boosters, posted by lotus on May 11, 2005, at 14:53:39
I know you can get a fair deal of a SAMe boost by taking precursors.
I think it varries from person to person. Some probably achieve a maximal effect from precursors, other perhaps not.
I will try and find some literature.
Linadge
Posted by JLx on May 11, 2005, at 18:13:11
In reply to Sam e boosters, posted by lotus on May 11, 2005, at 14:53:39
> Would taking a b complex with TMG to produce Sam e in the body be as effective as taking Sam e itself? If it does work, it would be a heck of alot cheaper.Has anyone here tried this?
I have, and can't say it works quite the same but that may be because I didn't work out the proper ratios and I didn't stick with it. See this previous thread, especially Larry's comments, and DSCH. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031104/msgs/278139.html
Or just read what Dr. Walsh from the Pfeiffer Clinic has to say: http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshQZ.htm#Ta
"Methionine and SAMe supplements directly introduce new methyl groups into the body. TMG can provide a methyl group only to the extent that there is insufficient folate/B-12 to do the job. In some persons, the methylation effect of TMG is very minimal. In addition, persons who are undermethylated have a SAM cycle which is "spinning very slowly", much like a superhighway with little traffic. The answer for them is NOT to more efficiently convert the small amount of homocysteine to methionine (using TMG), but rather to directly introduce more methionine or SAMe into the body. A small percentage of persons with sufficient dietary methionine cannot efficiently produce SAMe --- These persons need supplemental SAMe, and not methionine or TMG and are the exception to the rule. In most other cases, methionine supplements alone are sufficient. TMG is a great way to treat individuals with dangerously high homocysteine levels. TMG can be very useful in augmenting methionine therapy along with B-6/P-5-P , serine, etc. The challenge is to supply enough methyl groups to help the patient, without creating dangerously high levels of homocysteine. Use of TMG is an "insurance policy" against this happening."
Dr. Sahelian on methyl donors: http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshQZ.htm#Ta
JL
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