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Posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 18:47:18
I reassembled my water pipe and mixed together the following:
2 TBSP Kratom Leaf (finely ground)
3 TBSP Calea Zacatechichi (slightly ground)
1/4 TSP Passion Flower Buds (partly ground)
1/4 TSP Mexican Tarragon (very finely ground)
Kratom is indigenous to Thailand, the only country where it's illegal. Reported to energize the body while easing the mind. Also an aphrodisiac. Usually chewed or gulped quickly and may cause severe nausea. Some reports of smoking it.
I tried smoking some by itself a couple days ago and thought it had a stimulating, euphoric effect. Vision, vivid; mind, lucid.
Calea Zacatechichi is also known as Dream Herb and used by shamans for visions and dreams. I tried a little (small bowl) and it, too, had a stimulating effect. Yet at the same time, I felt a little stoned.
I've yet to try the Mexican Tarragon. It, too, is used in religious ceremonies to experience visions. The smoke is said to produce euphoria and "closed-eye imagery".
Finally, I cautiously added a few partly ground passion flower buds. Passion Flower usually knocks me out and would probably cancel the aphrodisiac, euphoric effect I'm looking for.
Yet passion flower is also noted for its anti-depressant qualities and is often thrown into "men's" or "vigor" (steel libido) herbal formulas. (I need all the help I can get as long as I take cymbalta)
I'm still undecided whether I'll continue with cymbalta. At a therapeutic dose (40-60mgs) I become completely anorgasmic, suffer "steel-stool" syndrome (constipation), and use too many parentheses. (maybe too many commas and the word "too", too) But a dozen pellets from an opened capsule (a couple mgs of cymbalta) a few hours before sex is an incredible aphrodisiac.
I will try my mix a little later this evening.
Verne
Posted by teejay on September 16, 2005, at 19:02:17
In reply to Aphrodisiac, posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 18:47:18
"steel stool"....ROFL, what a cracking description of constipation!
I also thought this was highly amusing and had me laffin out loud literally! "and use too many parentheses. (maybe too many commas and the word "too", too)
Oh and that anorgasmia thing......if you smoke all that lot, at least if it doesnt cure it, you wont be too bothered ;-))))
HAve you considered a side line selling cymbalta to people who suffer from premature ejaculation???
TJ
Posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 23:34:34
In reply to Aphrodisiac, posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 18:47:18
I wasn't really getting where I wanted to go, so I added some "premium" kratom powder to both the smoke mix and some Balinese tea. I'm really flying - all my lower chakras are awhirl and tingly.
I haven't drunk much of the tea but so far no nausea. In fact, not much of a body load except for waves of pleasant feelings from chakra one through five.
Very vivid and lucid otherwise. Almost euphoric. All alone, all dressed up - half dressed really - and nowhere to go.
Verne
Posted by teejay on September 17, 2005, at 6:56:32
In reply to Supplemental Report, posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 23:34:34
"- half dressed really -"
Dare we ask which half?? ;-)
TJ (who fancies a cup of your tea!)
Posted by verne on September 17, 2005, at 10:19:24
In reply to Re: Supplemental Report » verne, posted by teejay on September 17, 2005, at 6:56:32
Benefits were short-lived and I have a bit of a "hangover" this morning.
Kratom is too expensive to be a viable AD option. I went through about 15 grams in tea and smoke last night and can't say it was worth it.
Ugh
Posted by Franz on September 17, 2005, at 18:54:45
In reply to Aphrodisiac, posted by verne on September 16, 2005, at 18:47:18
Hi, there is a mix used by the natives which is the original way to drink KAVA KAVA and it is suppossed to be Aphrodisiac (or at least relaxing and putting you in a good mood) you may want to search the web for it. I remember it contained alcohol, kava and a few more things.
Yohimbe is used as a sex stimulant.
Posted by Declan on September 17, 2005, at 20:51:53
In reply to Sheepish Final Report, posted by verne on September 17, 2005, at 10:19:24
Verne, what happened with the blue lotus? You must have a good herbalist.
Declan
Posted by verne on September 17, 2005, at 22:03:13
In reply to Re: Sheepish Final Report » verne, posted by Declan on September 17, 2005, at 20:51:53
Later I did throw some blue lotus into the smoke mix. There were also about three different types of lotus in the Balinese tea.
From what I've read, the best way to take blue lotus is to soak it in wine for at least a week. Since I can't drink, I have to smoke it. (I don't smoke otherwise so it's not my favorite pasttime)
Of all the lotus varieties I still like nelumbo nucifera from Nepal. It beats the stuff from Africa. I definitely feel something medicinal going on.
I also have some Wild Lettuce, aka Lettuce Opium, which I will try smoking with some Passion Flower Buds if I really need to ripvanwinkle.
The Kratom seemed so promising at first but I hit a plateau - more didn't seem to help. Perhaps I should have boiled it longer, extracted it a few times, and then let it steep in the fridge for a week. And, perhaps, I should just eat some mushrooms and shrink myself.
I think I'm running out of pot alternatives.
Verne
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