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Posted by linkadge on December 7, 2005, at 15:57:53
I downed a hefty dose of cinnamon, and the next day things were unsually bright and the sky was unordinately blue.
Linkadge
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 8, 2005, at 13:31:19
In reply to cinnamon must be psychoactive, posted by linkadge on December 7, 2005, at 15:57:53
Hmmm I love cinnamon, particulary this time of year. How much did you take and (if you don't mind me asking) erm, why?
Posted by blueberry on December 8, 2005, at 17:40:18
In reply to cinnamon must be psychoactive, posted by linkadge on December 7, 2005, at 15:57:53
I remember about a year ago I got a large fresh cinnamon sugar pretzel for a snack and was surprised with a really good mood and lots of energy for a few hours. I don't remember if the next day was any different, but I do remember thinking at the time that all that cinnamon must have done something. I mean, there was a lot of sugar too, but I know what a sugar high feels like, and it wasn't that. The next few days I tried cinnamon sugar toast for breakfast but never got a duplicate response. Looking back, I think that pretzel was absolutely loaded with cinnamon, a lot more than I put on my toast.
Hmmm, might have to retry that. Never heard of anyone overdosing on cinnamon. It's supposed to be good for controlling blood sugar too.
Posted by linkadge on December 8, 2005, at 17:43:13
In reply to Re: cinnamon must be psychoactive » linkadge, posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 8, 2005, at 13:31:19
A tablespoon or so. It is supposedly a very strong antioxidant.
Linkadge
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 8, 2005, at 18:00:34
In reply to Re: cinnamon must be psychoactive, posted by linkadge on December 8, 2005, at 17:43:13
> A tablespoon or so. It is supposedly a very strong antioxidant.
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> LinkadgeIs there any chance you have blood sugar fluctuations? I can find nothing about cinnamon as a psychoactive. Blood sugar regulator, strong evidence.
Lar
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 9, 2005, at 7:50:03
In reply to Re: cinnamon must be psychoactive » linkadge, posted by Larry Hoover on December 8, 2005, at 18:00:34
Hey there!
Just found out something interesting about cinnamon - there are two types see below copied from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon
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In the media, "cinnamon" has been reported to have remarkable pharmacological effects in the treatment of type II diabetes. However, the plant material used in the study [5] was actually Cassia, as opposed to true cinnamon. The confusion in nomenclature is described below. Please refer to Cassia's health issues for more information about its health benefits.
Cinnamon and cassia
The name cinnamon is correctly used to refer to Ceylon Cinnamon, also known as "true cinnamon" (from the botanical name C. verum). However, the related species Cassia (Cinnamomum aromaticum) is sometimes sold labeled as cinnamon, distinguished from true cinnamon as "Indonesian cinnamon" or "Bastard cinnamon". Ceylon cinnamon, using only the thin inner bark, has a finer, less dense and more crumbly texture, and is considered to be a stronger and more pungent spice. Cassia is generally a medium to dark reddish brown, and as the whole bark is used, is thicker (2-3 mm thick) and hard and woody in texture.
The two barks when whole are easily distinguished, and their microscopic characteristics are also quite distinct. When powdered bark is treated with tincture of iodine (a test for starch), little effect is visible in the case of pure cinnamon of good quality, but when cassia is present a deep-blue tint is produced, the intensity of the coloration depending on the proportion of cassia.
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Interesting, I wonder which is more psychoactive? And which is usually found in shops etc? hmmmmm I might go buy some later on.....
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 9, 2005, at 8:09:02
In reply to Re: cinnamon must be psychoactive, posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 9, 2005, at 7:50:03
Wow that Cassia stuff seems to be very interesting. Moreover, in North America it seems that the stuff you buy is in fact Cassia whilst in Mexico and Europe its 'true' cinnamon, which explains afew personal experiences i've had!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassia
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Most of the spice sold as cinnamon in the United States and Canada (where true cinnamon is still generally unknown) is actually cassia. In some cases, cassia is labeled "Indonesian cinnamon" to distinguish it from the more expensive true cinnamon (Cinnamomum zeylanicum), which is the preferred form of the spice used in Mexico and Europe.
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Health issues
Studies by the United States Department of Agriculture have found that ingesting a half teaspoon of powdered cassia (Cinnamomum cassia) per day significantly reduces blood sugar in diabetics, especially in Type-2 diabetics, and improves cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and triglyceride levels [1]. The effects, which can even be produced by brewing a tea from cassia bark, also benefit non-diabetics who have blood sugar problems. There is also much anecdotal evidence that consumption of cassia has a strong effect in lowering blood pressure, making it potentially useful to those suffering from hypertension. The USDA has three ongoing studies that are monitoring the blood pressure effect.
There is concern that there is as yet no knowledge about the potential for toxic buildup of the fat-soluble components in cassia, as anything fat-soluble could potentially be subject to toxic buildup. However, people have been using the spice as a seasoning safely for thousands of years. There are no concluded long term clinical studies on the use of cassia for health reasons.
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Posted by linkadge on December 9, 2005, at 11:00:25
In reply to Cassia, is in fact, American 'cinnamon'., posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 9, 2005, at 8:09:02
Cinnamon is a fairly potent GSK-3b inhibitor. This enzyme controlls neurogeneic infammation, and is also a signalling pathway affected by mood stabalizers lithium and valproate.
Linkadge
Posted by cecilia on December 16, 2005, at 3:49:43
In reply to Cassia, is in fact, American 'cinnamon'., posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 9, 2005, at 8:09:02
> Wow that Cassia stuff seems to be very interesting. Moreover, in North America it seems that the stuff you buy is in fact Cassia whilst in Mexico and Europe its 'true' cinnamon, which explains afew personal experiences i've had!
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassia
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> Most of the spice sold as cinnamon in the United States and Canada (where true cinnamon is still generally unknown) is actually cassia. In some cases, cassia is labeled "Indonesian cinnamon" to distinguish it from the more expensive true cinnamon (Cinnamomum zeylanicum), which is the preferred form of the spice used in Mexico and Europe.
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> Health issues
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> Studies by the United States Department of Agriculture have found that ingesting a half teaspoon of powdered cassia (Cinnamomum cassia) per day significantly reduces blood sugar in diabetics, especially in Type-2 diabetics, and improves cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and triglyceride levels [1]. The effects, which can even be produced by brewing a tea from cassia bark, also benefit non-diabetics who have blood sugar problems. There is also much anecdotal evidence that consumption of cassia has a strong effect in lowering blood pressure, making it potentially useful to those suffering from hypertension. The USDA has three ongoing studies that are monitoring the blood pressure effect.
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> There is concern that there is as yet no knowledge about the potential for toxic buildup of the fat-soluble components in cassia, as anything fat-soluble could potentially be subject to toxic buildup. However, people have been using the spice as a seasoning safely for thousands of years. There are no concluded long term clinical studies on the use of cassia for health reasons.
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What kinds of toxic effects are they concerned about? I've been taking a half teaspoon daily and now am worried that I've doing more harm than good. Cecilia
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