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Posted by qqqsimmons on December 16, 2005, at 0:11:35
To anyone else who's had trouble with magnesium supplements:
"Signs of excess magnesium can be similar to magnesium deficiency and include changes in mental status, nausea, diarrhea, appetite loss, muscle weakness, difficulty breathing, extremely low blood pressure, and irregular heartbeat [5,57-60]."
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.aspi only had the appetite loss, muscle weakness, and "mental status" in form of complete lack of motivation / depression.
Posted by JLx on December 24, 2005, at 12:04:15
In reply to magnesium toxicity, posted by qqqsimmons on December 16, 2005, at 0:11:35
> To anyone else who's had trouble with magnesium supplements:
>
> "Signs of excess magnesium can be similar to magnesium deficiency and include changes in mental status, nausea, diarrhea, appetite loss, muscle weakness, difficulty breathing, extremely low blood pressure, and irregular heartbeat [5,57-60]."
> http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.asp
>
> i only had the appetite loss, muscle weakness, and "mental status" in form of complete lack of motivation / depression.How much were you taking and in what form? For how long? Were you taking other supplements at the time? Any calcium?
In my experience, the calcium/magnesium ratio is very important.
Magnesium aspartate and magnesium glutamate are contraindicated for depression.
Unless they eat a diet high in dark green vegetables, nuts/seeds and whole grains, most people are deficient in magnesium and/or overloaded in calcium due to dairy rich diets. Too much calcium exacerbates magnesium deficiency.
Magnesium is depleted as well by stress, diets high in fat/sugar/refined carbs, high alcohol and caffeine use and diuretics, to name a few.
Since depression/anxiety is highly linked to stress, I think magnesium is a good supplement for people to try for these conditions and that magnesium toxicity can be avoided with prudent use.
Magnesium supplementation was nearly miraculous for me, relieving the suicidal/self-loathing/unable to function/absolute pit type of depression that characterized my life for many years.
JL
Posted by Sarah T. on December 25, 2005, at 0:28:36
In reply to Re: magnesium toxicity » qqqsimmons, posted by JLx on December 24, 2005, at 12:04:15
Hi JLx,
Magnesium is the single most beneficial "alternative" supplement I've taken. I started taking it regularly nearly two years ago. It helps a lot, especially for PMS and other female hormone problems. Prior to two years ago, I was taking a combination Calcium+Magnesium pill, but it didn't help me nearly as much as the 200-400 mg of Magnesium alone, taken before bed. For a while, I preferred Mg Citrate, but now I like the Mg glycinate.
What ratio of Magnesium to Calcium do you take?
Posted by JLx on December 25, 2005, at 7:36:21
In reply to Re: magnesium toxicity » JLx, posted by Sarah T. on December 25, 2005, at 0:28:36
> Hi JLx,
>
> Magnesium is the single most beneficial "alternative" supplement I've taken. I started taking it regularly nearly two years ago. It helps a lot, especially for PMS and other female hormone problems. Prior to two years ago, I was taking a combination Calcium+Magnesium pill, but it didn't help me nearly as much as the 200-400 mg of Magnesium alone, taken before bed. For a while, I preferred Mg Citrate, but now I like the Mg glycinate.
>
> What ratio of Magnesium to Calcium do you take?I don't take any calcium. Calcium makes me crazy.
For a while when I was doing a no dairy thing, I did take a tiny bit of calcium, around 50-80 mg with my magnesium at night.
I think it's important for people to find out what their optimal ratio is. For some it might be 2:1 calcium to magnesium, vice versa or somewhere in between. I suspect that some people trying magnesium for mood disorders conclude magnesium "doesn't help" without exploring the mag/calcium ratio, which is the key.
JL
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