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Posted by LegWarmers on February 23, 2006, at 22:03:59
has anyone taken it?
good experiences? bad experiences? Is it just a bandaid or does it really help?
thanks
Posted by honeybee on February 24, 2006, at 9:18:07
In reply to glucosamine, posted by LegWarmers on February 23, 2006, at 22:03:59
Haven't used them, but there was a Gina Kolata article in the NYTimes yesterday that reported a big ol' study pubbed in the New England Journal of Medicine found neither to be effective. Big bummer.
Here's the link:
Posted by nolvas on February 24, 2006, at 15:47:59
In reply to Re: glucosamine, posted by honeybee on February 24, 2006, at 9:18:07
I think MSM (Methyl Sufonyl Methane) is reputed to be more effective for treating arthritic and rheumatoid conditions.
Moore, R.D., et al. Diminished inflammatory joint disease in MRL/1pr mice ingesting dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) or methylsulfonylmethane (MSM). Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology. 69th Annual Meeting. Vol. 692, April 1985.
Animals fed a diet that included a 3% solution of MSM in drinking water from the age of two months until the age of five months experienced no degeneration of articular cartilage. In a control group of mice receiving only tap water, 50% of animals experienced focal generation of articular cartilage.
Posted by LegWarmers on February 25, 2006, at 12:44:27
In reply to Re: glucosamine, posted by nolvas on February 24, 2006, at 15:47:59
I had a feeling it was too good to be true. Ill look into MSM
Posted by honeybee on February 27, 2006, at 16:30:53
In reply to thanks, posted by LegWarmers on February 25, 2006, at 12:44:27
LW,
Not to contradict myself--but, of course, to contradict myself--one thing that emerges from studies like these is that they're a) typically just one study (as opposed to many) and b) oftentimes contradicted by either subsets of individuals within the study, other research, and anecdotal reports. If these substances work for you (as some people are reporting) and there's no harm in taking them, it doesn't hurt to chalk it up to either the brilliant afterglow of the placebo effect (yay, placebo!) or a mechanism of action that Western scientists aren't able to understand yet. Even though I offered the link to the study's results, it sounds like lots of people have found them to help. And I know the combination works for my friend's cat, who doesn't read any studies at all! So, there may be more to it.
Good luck finding something that works for you.
b
p.s. Here's a follow-up article in the NYTimes that talks about a number of alternative remedies and glosses, but does touch on, how difficult it can be to tease apart the possible effects... http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Supplement-Setbacks.html Slightly annoying in tone, but I'll take alternative health care coverage where I can get it.
Posted by LegWarmers on March 2, 2006, at 18:11:40
In reply to Re: thanks, posted by honeybee on February 27, 2006, at 16:30:53
you're right lol, I am so quick to make judgements based on ONE thing lol
I just worried that it was maybe bad for me
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