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Posted by linkadge on May 8, 2006, at 18:37:29
Has anyone attained any benifit from relora, by itself or in combination with SJW ?
Linkadge
Posted by honeybee on May 14, 2006, at 19:22:15
In reply to Has anyone got benifit from relora ?, posted by linkadge on May 8, 2006, at 18:37:29
Not I.
But I'm curious about it. It seems like a rip-off of TCM, for sure. Magnolia (houpu) has been used in TCM for centuries (naturally).It isn't as clear to me why Phellodendron amurense (cork tree/huang bai) is included in the blend.
Here's a pubmed article on a decoction that has Magnolia in it. Thought you'd find it interesting, Linkadge.
Have you ever thought of getting into TCM or giving it a try? The TCM conception of depression at least allows for the multifarious manifestions of depression/anxiety/worry/obsessing, and so on.
An L.Ac. friend of mine has explains that the TCM vision for why antidepressants work is that they tend to get the chi unblocked/running (exercise also does this). The reason for poop out, she explained to me, is usually that there's some underlying deficiency that's not being treated.
Here's that article:
Antidepressant evaluation of polysaccharides from a Chinese herbal medicine Banxia-houpu decoction.
Guo Y, Kong L, Wang Y, Huang Z.
Institute of Functional Biomolecule, State Key Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Biotechnology, School of Life Sciences, Nanjing University, Nanjing 210093, People's Republic of China.Banxia-houpu decoction, a traditional Chinese medicine has been used in the treatment of depression. The present study confirmed that oral administration of polysaccharides from Banxia-houpu decoction, exhibited a reduction in the immobility time in the tail suspension and in the forced swimming tests in mice in a time-dependent manner. This effect at a dose of 320 mg/kg was more potent than that at a dose of 640 mg/kg. The polysaccharides from Banxia-houpu decoction were active in animal models of depression with comparable effects to known antidepressants. The oral administration of the polysaccharides at a low dose for 4 weeks resulted in a significant increase in the monoamine neurotransmitter 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) and dopamine (DA) levels in whole mouse brain, but produced no significant increase in 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) and norepinephrine (NE) concentrations. The effect of polysaccharides on the brain neurotransmitter levels appeared to be quite different from the effect of fluoxetine, a serotonin specific reuptake inhibitor. The results indicate that the mode of action of polysaccharides from Banxia-houpu decoction of polysaccharides from Banxia-houpu decoction in depression might be related to both 5-HT and DA systems. Copyright 2004 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
Posted by Jakeman on May 14, 2006, at 21:24:30
In reply to Has anyone got benifit from relora ?, posted by linkadge on May 8, 2006, at 18:37:29
I tried it a couple years ago. At first ii gave me a feeling of relaxation and uplifted mood. Then it pooped out after less than a week.
~Jake
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