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Posted by krystee on April 9, 2006, at 3:33:35
Just wondering if anyone here has tried the otc diet aid relacore? It claims to alleviate stress and anxiety. Would this be okay to take with Abilify? What herbs interact with Abilify?
Posted by linkadge on May 7, 2006, at 20:39:43
In reply to Relacore, posted by krystee on April 9, 2006, at 3:33:35
I was interested in this product too. It seemed a bit pricy though.
Linkadge
Posted by crystee on May 8, 2006, at 1:15:22
In reply to Re: Relacore, posted by linkadge on May 7, 2006, at 20:39:43
Well I tried the relacore and it seemed to be helping but I quit it because I just got Lamictal and I am not sure if I can take them together or not. After all, relacore supposedly blocks cortisol and a few cortisol injections ago I was fine. It was after some broken bones and those injections that I supposedly became bipolar. That's why the interest in the relacore...I liked it. I wonder if I can take it with the Lamictal. Oh yeah I could even drink coffee on it (relacore) and usually coffee freaks me out.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2006, at 10:14:21
In reply to Relacore, posted by krystee on April 9, 2006, at 3:33:35
> Just wondering if anyone here has tried the otc diet aid relacore? It claims to alleviate stress and anxiety. Would this be okay to take with Abilify?
Probably, is the best answer I can find.
> What herbs interact with Abilify?
It's best to ask specific questions, one on one considerations. There probably is not a clear answer to your query, in any case.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2006, at 10:18:55
In reply to Re: Relacore, posted by linkadge on May 7, 2006, at 20:39:43
> I was interested in this product too. It seemed a bit pricy though.
>
> LinkadgeAccording to what I just read, any product containing Magnolia officinalis is not covered by product liability insurance, except under special waiver. You're probably paying for that, but the stuff seems safe enough.
http://www.itmonline.org/arts/magsafe.htm
Also, it is a component of the Traditional Chinese Medicine decoction known as Banxia-houpu.
I wouldn't hesitate to give Relacore a trial, no matter what I was taking simultaneously. Just remember: Start low (dose), and go slow.
Lar
Life Sci. 2003 Nov 21;74(1):55-73.
Behavioral and biochemical studies on chronic mild stress models in rats treated with a Chinese traditional prescription Banxia-houpu decoction.Li JM, Kong LD, Wang YM, Cheng CH, Zhang WY, Tan WZ.
Institute of Functional Biomolecule, State Key Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Biotechnology, School of Life Sciences, Nanjing University, Nanjing 210093, China.
There is increasing evidence that psychological stress and depression trigger changes in various biochemical parameters in animals and in human subjects. In order to study these effects, the impact of chronic mild stress (CMS) on rats, and of the subsequent administration of Banxia-houpu decoction and fluoxetine, were studied regarding their effects on the following biochemical parameters: 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) and 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) levels in various brain regions, natural killer (NK) cell and lymphokine-activated killer (LAK) cell activities in spleen, serum lipid profiles including total cholesterol (TC), high density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDLc), low density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDLc) and triglyceride (TG), liver superoxide dismutase (SOD) and nitric oxide synthase (NOS) activities, serum malondialdehyde (MDA), and interleukin-2 (IL-2) levels. The effects of drug administration on preference behavior for consumption of sucrose solution were also assessed. Rats subjected to CMS exhibited a reduction in sucrose intake, 5-HT, 5-HIAA, IL-2, TC, HDLc and LDLc levels, as well as, diminished NK cell and LAK cell activities. Conversely, liver SOD and NOS activities and serum TG and MDA levels were increased following CMS exposures. Administration of Banxia-houpu decoction and fluoxetine produced beneficial effects on the stressed rats by improving sucrose consumption. This behavioral change was accompanied by amelioration of numbers CMS-induced biochemical changes. Banxia-houpu decoction is a traditional Chinese prescription containing pinellia tuber, magnolia bark, hoelen, perilla herb and ginger rhizome, and has been used for centuries in China to treat mental diseases including depression and schizophrenia. However, the pharmacological profile of the decoction is different from that of fluoxetine. These findings suggest that the therapeutic actions of Banxia-houpu decoction are due to a combination of multiple biochemical effects, and may help to elucidate the mechanisms through which distinct biochemical parameters play a role in the etiology of depression.
Posted by flipsactown on May 25, 2006, at 10:57:36
In reply to Re: Relacore, posted by linkadge on May 7, 2006, at 20:39:43
> I was interested in this product too. It seemed a bit pricy though.
>
> Linkadge
So, does it really work on the paunch?FST
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 30, 2006, at 8:39:53
In reply to Re: Relacore, posted by flipsactown on May 25, 2006, at 10:57:36
> > I was interested in this product too. It seemed a bit pricy though.
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> > Linkadge
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> So, does it really work on the paunch?
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> FSTIt does influence energy metabolism. Slightly.
I can think of more effective manipulations, though. One less cookie/beer per week is a pound over a year. Ya know?
Lar
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