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Posted by sdb on July 24, 2006, at 14:11:06

You once mentioned that the best sjw brand you took was a swiss product. I guess it must be the Ze117 standart produced by zeller www.zellerag.ch and madaus germany. Am I right?

I read that Ze117 is blamed because of it's low hyperforin content. But at the other hand many people say Ze117 is effective for depression especially anxiety. I can support this because of some studies made in Germany (Ze117-SSRI).

kind regards

sdb

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Posted by sdb on July 24, 2006, at 16:07:39

In reply to SJW-Brand }} linkadge, posted by sdb on July 24, 2006, at 14:11:06

according to studies there are almost no plasma fluctuations if ZE 117 is taken with digoxin, cyclosporine et cetera (CYP3Ax) compared to LI 160, which has remarkable effects. A positive property of ZE 117 (!).

sdb

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Posted by linkadge on July 25, 2006, at 17:09:22

In reply to SJW-Brand }} linkadge, posted by sdb on July 24, 2006, at 14:11:06

No, actually, I never took Ze117.

It was a swiss brand, I took, but it was likely a cheaper version. It did say it had standardized hypercin and hyperforin though.

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Posted by sdb on July 26, 2006, at 15:47:53

In reply to Re: SJW-Brand }} linkadge, posted by linkadge on July 25, 2006, at 17:09:22

> No, actually, I never took Ze117.
>
> It was a swiss brand, I took, but it was likely a cheaper version. It did say it had standardized hypercin and hyperforin though.
>
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You're right the Ze 117 is as expensive as ssris here. There are two manufactures of Ze 117 in Europe and two in the US. But I really don't think
the Ze 117 in Europe is the same as in the US.
I have some Ze 117 stored in my "pharmacy" used in the BMJ study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=10968813&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

PMID: 10968813

sdb

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