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Posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 6:51:42
Marplan (MAOI antidepressant) has really took away my ability to orgasm.
I still have 2 months before I see my pdoc next. So I ordered some of this stuff to see if it helps in the meantime.Has anyone found Horny Goat Weed helpfull in reducing MAOI/SSRI/other med induced anorgasmia?
Thanx,
teck
Posted by stargazer2 on November 28, 2007, at 19:22:49
In reply to Horny Goat Weed for med-induced anorgasmia?, posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 6:35:16
Well if anything can work it will be something with the word 'horny' in its name. That's so funny, what do you know about this appropriately named stuff, like what other indications is it for?
Have you ever tried Wellbutrin for the same reason? It is often prescribed for this reason.
This will probably get redirected to the alternative board...
Stargazer
Posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 19:22:50
In reply to 'Horny' Goat Weed for med-induced anorgasmia?, posted by stargazer2 on November 28, 2007, at 7:01:53
> Well if anything can work it will be something with the word 'horny' in its name. That's so funny, what do you know about this appropriately named stuff, like what other indications is it for?
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> Have you ever tried Wellbutrin for the same reason? It is often prescribed for this reason.
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> This will probably get redirected to the alternative board...
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> StargazerNo worries, I've already posted this same post on the Alternative board! :D Thats me thinking ahead! Clever hey! lol
I used Wellbutrin (Zyban in UK) with Nardil. I dont know if it worked because the Nardil induced anorgasmia has alread faded away by then. But its worth condiering I suppose. It would have to be a small dose though as I never really liked the stuff - made me irritable (was on 300mg/day).
Horny Goat Weed is said to be a powerfull aphrodisiac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horney_goat_weed
Sounds like it may be even more effective that Viagra! (200mg Viagra did NOTHING for my anorgasmia on Nardil).teck
Posted by Phillipa on November 28, 2007, at 19:22:51
In reply to Re: 'Horny' Goat Weed for med-induced anorgasmia? » stargazer2, posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 7:16:43
Is it safe to combine herbs with your meds? Didn't read the whole article. Love Phillipa
Posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 19:22:51
In reply to Re: 'Horny' Goat Weed for med-induced anorgasmia? » tecknohed, posted by Phillipa on November 28, 2007, at 9:06:06
> Is it safe to combine herbs with your meds? Didn't read the whole article. Love Phillipa
Exactly what I've been wondering too. Anyone know?
I'll have to start with a small dose & go from there. But from what it said on Wikipedia, some of it's actions are similar to Viagra & I took that safely with Nardil at 200mg.
Thanks for your concern :)
teck
Posted by FredPotter on November 28, 2007, at 19:22:51
In reply to Re: 'Horny' Goat Weed for med-induced anorgasmia? » Phillipa, posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 11:19:08
Perhaps they should combine it with Nardil in a polypill and call it Horny Nardil or Naughty Nardil or something. However there are distinct signs after being on Nardil for several months that the sexual numbing is wearing off. Lock up your daughters!
Posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 20:46:02
In reply to Horny Goat Weed for med induced anorgasmia?, posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 6:51:42
Hang on. These posts have been copied from the Med board. The whole point of me posting on both boards is because the subject is BOTH MED AND HERBAL RELATED! Not only that, I know some only post on here & others only post on the med board so was hoping of an all-round response. GRRR!!!
Posted by Molitor on December 1, 2007, at 9:44:31
In reply to Horny Goat Weed for med induced anorgasmia?, posted by tecknohed on November 28, 2007, at 6:51:42
I've never tried Horny Goat Weed, but I'm always careful about mixing *stuff* with MAOIs, and you gotta keep in mind there's always a possibility that it has some cumulative effects over time. But that never stopped me. ;)
I'm currently on Parnate, and my experience is that Parnate is touchier, or more temperamental and less forgiving that Nardil wrt blood pressure issues. How do you think Marplan ranks in this department?
FWIW, Nardil (45mg) made me horny as the day as long, and any delayed orgasm was so slight it was more of a benefit. Upping the dose made it worse, tho. And combining other meds with Nardil made the delayed orgasm much, much worse. Provigil and Neurontin, and Klonopin, to be specific. None of it interfered with actual desire or erection, just delayed orgasm. And at least Nardil orgasms were normal, and not those weird misfires you get with other drugs.
One thing that I've noticed increases pleasure, etc. is Choline. I used to take Choline Chloride, just for overall benefits -- the sex stuff was a side-effect. It's a cheap liquid, but it's hard to find (VRP may still sell it), and it tastes like robot urine. (You should take CC with Pantothenic Acid). It also had the fish-odor side effect if you take too much, and if you really take too much, it'll make you feel horrible. I've taken it with Nardil and Parnate with no problems. If you're not on a strict budget, there's other forms of choline you could try. Bulk Alpha-GPC has a vaguely pleasant taste, doesn't seem to have the fish-odor side effect. Needless to say, it's also fairly pricey.
-Moli
Posted by tecknohed on December 2, 2007, at 18:22:19
In reply to Re: Horny Goat Weed for med induced anorgasmia? » tecknohed, posted by Molitor on December 1, 2007, at 9:44:31
> I've never tried Horny Goat Weed, but I'm always careful about mixing *stuff* with MAOIs, and you gotta keep in mind there's always a possibility that it has some cumulative effects over time. But that never stopped me. ;)
I plan to start low to be safe.
> I'm currently on Parnate, and my experience is that Parnate is touchier, or more temperamental and less forgiving that Nardil wrt blood pressure issues. How do you think Marplan ranks in this department?
No problems at all, and I even eat lashings of gravy (containing yeast/meat extracts) without any problems. In fact I'd say it may well be even safer than Nardil. With Nardil I even got mild hypertension feelings (head & spine tingles. mild headaches, etc) from eating old potatoes (possibly because of tryptophan content or simply the potatoes' age) & rice (which contains high levels of tyrosine). No such effects with Marplan.
> FWIW, Nardil (45mg) made me horny as the day as long, and any delayed orgasm was so slight it was more of a benefit. Upping the dose made it worse, tho. And combining other meds with Nardil made the delayed orgasm much, much worse. Provigil and Neurontin, and Klonopin, to be specific. None of it interfered with actual desire or erection, just delayed orgasm. And at least Nardil orgasms were normal, and not those weird misfires you get with other drugs.
I'm sure the anorgasmia would get better if I lowered the dose a little but I dare not even contemplate that at the moment whilst my mood is good. I know it will go in the end, even if I have to wait for it to go on it's own accord.
> One thing that I've noticed increases pleasure, etc. is Choline. I used to take Choline Chloride, just for overall benefits -- the sex stuff was a side-effect. It's a cheap liquid, but it's hard to find (VRP may still sell it), and it tastes like robot urine. (You should take CC with Pantothenic Acid). It also had the fish-odor side effect if you take too much, and if you really take too much, it'll make you feel horrible. I've taken it with Nardil and Parnate with no problems. If you're not on a strict budget, there's other forms of choline you could try. Bulk Alpha-GPC has a vaguely pleasant taste, doesn't seem to have the fish-odor side effect. Needless to say, it's also fairly pricey.
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> -MoliDo you think the choline in lecithin granules would have the same effect, or does it need to be isolated choline?
teck
Posted by Molitor on December 2, 2007, at 20:57:29
In reply to Re: Horny Goat Weed for med induced anorgasmia? » Molitor, posted by tecknohed on December 2, 2007, at 18:22:19
> I'm sure the anorgasmia would get better if I lowered the dose a little but I dare not even contemplate that at the moment whilst my mood is good. I know it will go in the end, even if I have to wait for it to go on it's own accord.
I wasn't actually suggesting that you change your dosage. Just noting that other meds might multiply the problem.
> Do you think the choline in lecithin granules would have the same effect, or does it need to be isolated choline?
>I would assume it would have the same effect, all things equal. To get 1 gram of choline, you only have to take 1 tsp. of Choline Chloride (I took 1 to 3 -- Did I mention that it tastes so horrible that just the act of NOT taking it is almost an orgasm in itself?). You may have to consume a lot of lecithin, but if that and the price aren't a problem, I don't see why the effect wouldn't be the same. I could tell in a couple days it was doing something.
I stumbled on this, too:
http://tinyurl.com/325wknNote: They're talking about a specific Ginkgo extract, EGb-761 (WARNING: Keep out of reach of rats). There's a few places who sell it, but I have absolutely no clue about its safety with MAOIs.
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