![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 5 of 5. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by sregan on January 29, 2008, at 18:57:07
I have a simple test that might let you know if you have a Mercury issue. If those who wish will try and let me know.
Simply take Selenium just before bed (try 75mcg-100mcg). See if your sleep improves.
For me it made a dramatic improvement.
Posted by bleauberry on January 30, 2008, at 19:37:21
In reply to Simple text for Mercury Toxicity, posted by sregan on January 29, 2008, at 18:57:07
It sounds like an interesting experiment and I am glad you sleep good. With a great deal of respect I must say testing for mercury toxicity is more complicated than taking selenium.
I am confirmed mercury toxic by a multitude of different medical examinations. While selenium is a good thing to take and is a daily part of my routine, it does nothing to ease any symptoms whatsoever.
There is one FDA approved urine test that indicates damage from toxic metals but doesn't point clearly at whether it was lead or mercury, and it doesn't measure how much toxicity is present. But it does conclusively say toxic or not.
Hair samples are reliable, but not in the way most people look at them. They need to be analyzed by The Counting Rules developed by PHd Andrew Cutler. The only hair test that provides all of the metals needed for this is by Doctors Data. Some of the most toxic folks show zero mercury in their hair. But it is the way the other metals in the hair are deranged that reveal the presence of mercury. Mercury displaces other metals including itself, and thus is commonly not seen in hair as the mercury in tissues is prevently it from going into the hair.
Symptoms and history alone are often enough, most especially if one has or had amalgam fillings in teeth.
Urine challenge tests are popular but often inconclusive. Some of the most toxic folks show little mercury on a challenge test. The mercury is too deeply entrenched for one challenge dose, or it resides in the brain where the challenge dose cannot get in. A more conclusive test is to take DMSA 25mg every 4 hours around the clock for 3 days and then take a urine sample. One dose challenge tests are risky and dangerous due to excessive mobilization and redistribution of stored mercury.
If you are mercury toxic and you get observable benefits from selenium, which partially neutralizes mercury's toxic effects and provides strong antioxidant action also, then that is awesome. A selenium challenge test is not diagnostic of mercury toxicity.
Posted by zatar on March 2, 2008, at 23:36:39
In reply to Re: Simple text for Mercury Toxicity, posted by bleauberry on January 30, 2008, at 19:37:21
Assuming one had mercury containing amalgams removed 10 or so years ago, could mercury toxicity still potentially be a problem?
-zatar
> It sounds like an interesting experiment and I am glad you sleep good. With a great deal of respect I must say testing for mercury toxicity is more complicated than taking selenium.
>
> I am confirmed mercury toxic by a multitude of different medical examinations. While selenium is a good thing to take and is a daily part of my routine, it does nothing to ease any symptoms whatsoever.
>
> There is one FDA approved urine test that indicates damage from toxic metals but doesn't point clearly at whether it was lead or mercury, and it doesn't measure how much toxicity is present. But it does conclusively say toxic or not.
>
> Hair samples are reliable, but not in the way most people look at them. They need to be analyzed by The Counting Rules developed by PHd Andrew Cutler. The only hair test that provides all of the metals needed for this is by Doctors Data. Some of the most toxic folks show zero mercury in their hair. But it is the way the other metals in the hair are deranged that reveal the presence of mercury. Mercury displaces other metals including itself, and thus is commonly not seen in hair as the mercury in tissues is prevently it from going into the hair.
>
> Symptoms and history alone are often enough, most especially if one has or had amalgam fillings in teeth.
>
> Urine challenge tests are popular but often inconclusive. Some of the most toxic folks show little mercury on a challenge test. The mercury is too deeply entrenched for one challenge dose, or it resides in the brain where the challenge dose cannot get in. A more conclusive test is to take DMSA 25mg every 4 hours around the clock for 3 days and then take a urine sample. One dose challenge tests are risky and dangerous due to excessive mobilization and redistribution of stored mercury.
>
> If you are mercury toxic and you get observable benefits from selenium, which partially neutralizes mercury's toxic effects and provides strong antioxidant action also, then that is awesome. A selenium challenge test is not diagnostic of mercury toxicity.
Posted by sregan on March 3, 2008, at 19:27:29
In reply to Re: Simple text for Mercury Toxicity, posted by bleauberry on January 30, 2008, at 19:37:21
I got my hair test results.
http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_148.pdf
Counting rules don't apply although they say that the Red Calcium and High Mag along with Low Potassium and Sodium are telltale of Mercury toxicity.
>Symptoms and history alone are often enough, most especially if one has or had amalgam fillings in teeth.
I would say that history is also very telling. It wasn't until I went back and charted my disease progression with my dentists visits that I had something really substantial. If I could go all the way back to when I was a kid I would bet the bald spots I had as a young tyke, the periods of heightened anxiety as a child along with 2 bouts of CFS were all preceeded within a year or less of dental work.
>A selenium challenge test is not diagnostic of mercury toxicity.
Maybe not as reliable as some others but it may help steer some to the correct illness. Mercury affects the thyroid, adrenals, pituitary and collects in all glands and organs where it interferes with critical enzymatic reactions.
How many people have followed the merry-go-round of Candida, Parasites, IBS, Thyroid, Adrenal Fatigue, Celiac, MCS and more? Mercury can be responsible for everything that is claimed individually to be responsible for CFS.
If you are hypo-thyroid it could be mercury suppressing the thyroid. If you take a chelator like PectaSol or Chlorella and your low back hurts it might be very likely that you are experiencing a redistribution of mercury to the adrenals.
>There is one FDA approved urine test that indicates damage from toxic metals but doesn't point clearly at whether it was lead or mercury, and it doesn't measure how much toxicity is present.
FDA huh? A bunch of guys from the drug industry pretending to regulate the drug industry. You had better watch out. This year the Supreme Court is going to consider granting blanket lawsuit immunity to drug companies. What a sad day that will be for this country.
Posted by sregan on March 3, 2008, at 19:35:35
In reply to Re: Simple text for Mercury Toxicity » bleauberry, posted by zatar on March 2, 2008, at 23:36:39
> Assuming one had mercury containing amalgams removed 10 or so years ago, could mercury toxicity still potentially be a problem?
>
> -zatarYes, Mercury is supposed to STAY in the brain once it makes it's way up there. Only a chelator can pull it out. The only substances capable of doing that safely (under protocol) are Alpha Lipoic Acid and Cilantro.
You should do some reading before attempting a challenge test with either of these. Cilantro might better be taken with a blood chelator (garlic, MSM, Chlorella).
Something to note: Before the mercury is put into your mouth it has to be handled to FDA protocol for hazardous material. Once removed from your mouth the same. The ADA says it's ok to have this IN YOUR MOUTH...Someone is not telling the truth!
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Alternative | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.