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NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

Hello,

About 5 months ago my psychiatrist recommended that I take NAC 2400mg for OCD/Depression. I was all over it and began taking it. My doctor told me to be patient as studies have shown that NAC can begin to work at 9 weeks and actually is most effective at the 6 month mark. Well he is correct. I have been patient with it and it has paid off. It is incredibly powerful for my constantly over working brain that does not shut off. It has acted like a dampener and I have now been able to take a job and I am able to make travel plans for the first time in my life.

I actually was taking 3600mg and felt that I was feeling a bit too spacey (in a good way) so dropped down to 2400mg and found that I needed a bit more so I went to 3000mg a day. The interesting this is that I switched brands to get a 500mg capsule instead of the 600mg capsule so I could take 3000mg evenly (1000mgX3 daily). I was using Swanson brand, 600mg, which capsules were made of gelatin and magnesium stearate (vegetable). I switched to Jarrow Brand 500mg and after about two weeks I began to struggle a bit with depression and horrific dry mouth. I became suspicious as the only thing I had done different was to swich brands. Clearly this was the problem so I looked at the side of the bottle. Well Jarrow's formula has silicon dioxide, cellulose, gelatin and magnesium stearate in each capsule. I really didn't feel great and was beginning to struggle so I went back to the Swanson brand to see if my suspicions were true and they are. After about 5 days switching back to Swanson I feel complete relief and back to where I was. I had no idea that ingredients in a capsule could have such a profound effect on me. I am wondering if anyone else has had the same negative reaction to either of these ingredients? I found an interesting website discussing that some fillers are not so good for us. Any thoughts and experiences?

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by jeaner on December 8, 2010, at 19:19:39

In reply to NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

Thats so true about fillers .Mycrocrystaline cellulose can be ground pine.I took pycnogenol which is a pine bark supplement and it too me a long time to realize it was the reason I had a burning tongue.I quess I am allergic to pine.I am careful now to call companies and ask what kind of cellulose they use vegetable or plant which can be wood or wood.It's in alot of supplements.Gelatin I am leary of also if it is from an animal source.Calcium phosphate tricalcium phosphate who knows where the bone comes from . I read on the wyze report web site that alot of it comes from China and yes Chinese do eat cats. If you are opposed to eating animal bones be on the lookout for bone meal as fillers.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by Chan Fook on December 10, 2010, at 8:22:33

In reply to NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

Hey,

When you take it, do you take it all in one go? And when do you take it too? I found that when I took it in the evenings, I had terrible insomnia and could not sleep at all. Although I was at the low dose of 600mg a day. Ever since retracting from taking it I feel slightly depressed, wondering if it's withdrawal from it.

All the best,
Chan Fook.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 10, 2010, at 12:22:34

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by Chan Fook on December 10, 2010, at 8:22:33

Chan I am sorry to hear that. Can you try taking it in the morning? Since I have OCD I was worrying about all sorts of side effects at the beginning which turned out to be me just worrying with my ocd. However I did feel fluey for a while as that is a start up side effect as it is a detoxifier. Yes when I drop down to a lower dose I do feel a bit depressed from withddrawals. What brand are you using? As I said before I had a terrible reaction with the Jarrow brand but Swanson Vitamins I am doing really well on.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by Chan Fook on December 10, 2010, at 20:14:35

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 10, 2010, at 12:22:34

I was using the Solgar brand (it's pretty big in the UK). Yes I did switch to it in the morning (forgot a dose for about 3-4 days and took it in the evening, wow what a mistake that was) and that was fine.

I'm just a bit sceptical about the dosage that you are taking, I mean, recommended is simply 600mg if that. At the start, what (positive) side effects will I be looking at if I try 2400mg~, and should I work up to it? I think my abrupt stopping of NAC has led to some depression (I literally can't be bothered to do any of my university work, although when I go out with friends I feel great, maybe it's just when I'm alone).

On a side note for your OCD, do you have any behavioural addictions that you are aware of that NAC has managed to curb or compulsions and obsessions that you think less of?

But relating to your original issue, maybe the release of the NAC is the issue when you change the brand name. Have you tried emptying the capsules and putting the contents in another type of capsule? I'm just a newbie but I think that might benefit you.

All the best with the treatment,
Chan Fook.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 10, 2010, at 20:37:04

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by Chan Fook on December 10, 2010, at 20:14:35

Chan,

If one were to go by the directions on the side of the vitamin bottle for a condition like OCD I don't believe you would get anywhere. Different vitamin companies have different recommendations for dosages in my experience so I don't pay attention to them. You should do some clinical research and you will find that 1200-2400mg is the most effective dose for OCD, trichotillomania, compulsive gambling and cocaine abuse. I certainly did not make up the dosage my psychiatrist advised me and he is one of the heads of UCLA. You go up 600mg every two weeks. Here are some links if you haven't searched already. As I said in the previous post the Swanson brand works great for me. Solgar is great too but I would check what your capsule is made of.

http://www.primarypsychiatry.com/aspx/articledetail.aspx?articleid=645

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16374600

http://www.healthyfellow.com/401/nac-for-mental-health/

http://www.improve-mental-health.com/natural-remedies-for-OCD.html

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 12, 2010, at 22:35:27

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 10, 2010, at 20:37:04

Hi there, I am quite interested in this thread because I have been using inositol to treat my trichotillomania (which is thought to be in the OCD spectrum), but I have not heard of NAC. Did you ever try inositol? If so, how do you find NAC in comparison to inositol? Does NAC help with anxiety at all, or panic? (Have you happened to notice?) Could you tell us anything more about the positive effects you've experienced, the time-frame under which you experienced them, and anything about side effects (if any)?

BTW, I worked my way up slowly to 18 g/day of inositol, which is the OCD-recommended dose.

Thanks for letting us know about your positive experience with the NAC.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by g_g_g_unit on December 12, 2010, at 23:54:17

In reply to NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

It's great to hear NAC is helping you, mogger. Do you feel that the effect has been more profound than SSRI's, etc?

Speaking of hypochondriasis over side-effects: believe it or not, but after reading a post of yours indicating that NAC may have been giving you trouble breathing, I suddenly felt that NAC was making my breathing heavier and became too scared to continue with it. The side-effect may have been real, though, because certain things do cause shortness of breath in me.

I was just curious . . have you ever tried Memantine?

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 1:24:07

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger, posted by g_g_g_unit on December 12, 2010, at 23:54:17

To answer the two previous posts.

I would encourage you seriously to try and fight the hypochondriasis as I have learned from my mistake of stopping it the first time. My psychiatrist (head of UCLA) and nutritionist told me to take it easy and go up 600mg every 2 weeks. The body takes time to adjust to such a POSITIVE supplement. All of my breathing problems have since passed and my lung capacity has improved tremendously. It feels real because it is real but the side effects are for good reason. I trust my psychiatrist with my life and he would never prescribe me something that was not thoroughly tested.

In answer to your question about SSRI's my doctor feels like it is a great ADJUNCT to SSRI's like Zoloft which I am on. He is right. I have included some articles in a previous post on how NAC compliments SSRI's. It has taken me 6 months of patience to feel a major difference. He warned me of this so I was prepared for it.

It has helped tremendously calming down my overreacting brain. Before NAC my brain was on over drive. My brain was sometimes attaching to something (however the inositol and my cocktail curtailed things tremendously) like embarking on a new job, a new relationship or traveling. The inositol has helped me break my chain of thought and the NAC has helped me literally stop worrying all together. I don't think it would be nearly as beneficial if I was taking NAC alone (although it is extremely powerful) but it clearly accentuates the inositol and zoloft.

I used to have to back out of everything i.e. if I made travel plans I would back out because I would worry about it. Now I don't worry about it in the first place. I know it is scary to embark on a new supplement as it is unknown but it is worth the pay off. The shortness of breath will fate ggg unit as it did for me. Please try and be patient and remind yourself that it will pass. Please message me if you have ANY questions as I would be happy to share my experience seriously. I have not tried memantine but have heard positive and negative things about it. I am grateful for NAC.

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by g_g_g_unit on December 13, 2010, at 3:22:40

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 1:24:07

Cool. That's great news, Mogger . . it's always nice to hear a success story. I really hope you continue to see benefits with NAC.

I was hoping to try Memantine again, but if I decide to embark on another NAC trial I'll definitely try to grit my teeth and bear the side-effects.

I suppose the only other point I was curious about was whether you notice any cognitive side-effects at your current dose? I know you said you felt spacey at high(er) doses . .

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 9:10:09

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 1:24:07

Just to clarify, you are on NAC and inositol (along with Zoloft)? What dose of inositol do you take? Would you recommend adding in NAC to someone who takes inositol, if that person feels that the inositol is working but not quite doing enough? (That would be me.) I don't take Zoloft or any prescription drugs, and don't have access to them at the moment (no doctor). Thanks!

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 9:46:07

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger, posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 9:10:09

ggg unit and Melanie,

Yes I am on all three (inositol, zoloft and NAC) but it has definitely complimented all 3. I am at 18 grams a day. That is the dose my psychiatrist says he has the most success with. There are places like www.iherb.com that you can buy Jarrow Inositol for 15 bucks but then they price match if you give them another link which is usually 11. You would need two bottles a month. 6grams morning, afternoon and evening.

ggg unit. Cognitively my speech and wit has improved ironically which is what I was worried about when I first went on due to the glutamate modification. The higher dose where I was at made me a bit too sleepy and spacey (3600mg a day). I am not the sharpest tool in the shed so I couldn't afford to be sleepy at work so I went down! :) Let me know when you hopefully decide to give it another shot and we can be in touch to try to get you over the initial side effects. All the best,

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 10:27:21

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 9:46:07

Joseph, thank you so much for this! I had never heard of NAC before, and I have just done a very quick literature search. Well, apparently, a 2009 study of NAC for trichotillomania showed very good results (Arch Gen Psychiatry). And another article thought it could be promising for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) (Mathew et al. 2008 in American Journal of Medical Genetics Part C: Seminars in Medical Genetics). Oddly enough, NAC also looks to be helpful for people with problems with mucus, which I also have. Makes me wonder if all of these could be related. I certainly never would have thought the mucus problems could be related to the psychological ones, but who knows! I have been taking 18 g/day inositol for about 2 months now, with good results with my trich, but I am still terribly anxious, and my other OCD symptoms (albeit, always mild) haven't improved much either. I think I would love to try this new therapy. Anyway, thank you for bringing my attention to it! My doctor (whom I almost never see because he is in another state) surely would never have brought my attention to this possibility!
Just curious if you thought the NAC might have any impact on anxiety/mood for you. (I know it would be difficult to say for sure since you are taking it in combination. But still, perhaps you have a "gut feeling" one way or the other ...)
Thanks again!

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 11:05:10

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger, posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 10:27:21

Melanie,

the NAC has destroyed about 90 percent of my anxiety for sure. I can travel for the first time in my life, I am starting to date which is unheard of for me and for the first time in my life I can commit to an office job. I really would encourage you to try it. The catch is that it takes about 9 weeks to start working (although I felt a difference after 4) and 6 months to feel the full effect. Patience is key! :) You must go up slowly as well. 600mg every two weeks as the body takes time to adjust. I felt a bit fluey at first and stuffed up and a little off but it soon passed. So therefore to answer your question a definitely yes to anxiety relief in the biggest way. :)

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 11:40:24

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 11:05:10

Thank you! I think I will try it! And I do understand about going up slowly. I had to do that with the inositol, too (work up slowly to the maximum dose).

I will try to order some NAC today, since I need to get more inositol soon, too. However, I already ordered some Rhodiola rosea, after researching that possibility. I don't see any reason why I can't start on both. What do you think? I don't think I can wait out 9 full weeks with this anxiety, with nothing else to help me in the meantime. I mean, I will be patient with the NAC and not give up on it too quickly, but I'd still like something that helps more quickly during the waiting time. I was also thinking of taking a daily b-complex vitamin. (I already take a daily multi-vitamin, but I don't think it's as robust as it could be on the B's.)
I'm so glad you have found a treatment to help you. Best wishes.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 12:01:33

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger, posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 11:40:24

Melanie,

I am so sorry to hear your anxiety is so bad that is so awful. Could you try 5-htp (tryptophan) which can work within days to curb anxiety? I am not sure about Rhodiola as I thought it was a stimulant but I have no idea. Swanson Vitamins has the cheapest and best NAC. 6.50 for a bottle of 100 capsules 600mg! They are so great. Let me know if you need any help, I would be happy to help out, best wishes to you and hang in there you can do it! :)

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 13:58:55

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 12:01:33

Hi Joseph,

So nice of you to get back to me. I actually did try 5-HTP briefly, although I did not give it much of a chance. I was having trouble figuring out optimal dosage and timing. What I found was that if I took 50 mg, it didn't seem to have much of an effect at all. 75-100 mg right before bedtime helped me sleep. But if I took 50 mg during the day, and then later 100 mg right before bed, my sleep seemed to be worse. And it didn't seem to help with my anxiety, no matter what combo of doses I used.

When I did the research, I found that it was more indicated for depression than for anxiety. So I quit.

I could try again, but having done more research, I think the promise of 5-HTP is more for insomnia/depression (vs anxiety), and I really feel my problem is anxiety. (Insomnia is a part of that, but it follows the anxiety.)

Rhodiola is supposed to help with feeling energized. It's also supposed to help with something called "stress exhaustion" and "fatigue syndrome" (apparently, it's a real clinical diagnosis in Sweden, but I don't think it appears in our DSM-IV). And it's supposedly good for depression and all-around mood/motivation. Or maybe it's just all hype!

When I've search on these boards, I find that people who have taken it have had mixed results, but that's always so hard to interpret because it could be very much brand-dependent, or depend on the particular combo of meds they take with it, or the dosage, or how long they took it, etc. Or a placebo effect, or maybe they have a financial stake in selling rhodiola. Who knows!

For now, I'm trying to go with non-prescription remedies for anxiety that have some clinical research to back them up. Unfortunately, most herbs/supplements get very much ignored when it comes to research. I hope to read a book called The Rhodiola Revolution soon, which is written by two American psychiatrists who have their own experience with this herb but also claim to summarize the research on Rhodiola from the former Soviet Union. Maybe after I take a look at the book, I'll have a better handle on whether it really does look to be the right option.

I have a list of other things to try, but obviously, I'd like to find something effective as quickly as possible. I figure the clearer the research is, the better the odds.

Other possibilities for anxiety that have at least some (minimal) research indicating effectiveness are:

* passionflower (see Akhondzadeh et al. 2001 in J Clin Pharm Ther - study did not include a placebo branch)

* chamomile extract (standardized) (see Amsterdam et al. 2009 in Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology, chamomile has small but statistically significant effect compared to placebo)

* Kava (but, unfortunately, some believe it has the potential for causing severe liver damage)

* B vitamins

* lysine

* magnesium

* Brahmi

* gotu kola

* scullcap

* and now, my newest addition to the list, NAC (especially for anxiety in the anxiety-OCD-trichotillomania spectrum)

(That may not be a complete list, but it's a start.)

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 14:20:55

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 13:58:55

Melanie,

I think Rhodiola Rosea sounds like a great option! I have heard some great things about it as well so I think you are making the right decision. Go for it! :) Make sure you are getting the standardized and quality grade of it. Let me know of your progress,

Joseph :)

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger

Posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 14:32:08

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 14:20:55

I will let you know! Hopefully, my order will arrive in a few days. I ordered the MIND BODY & SPIRIT by Verde Botanica brand because I heard it was the best, and it is standardized. I think it is similar to the Arctic Root label produced by the Swedish Herbal Institute, which has been used in most of the studies I could find. But the Swedish Arctic Root variety does not appear to be marketed in the USA, so I went with the Verde Botanica brand. Interestingly, the folks selling the Verde Botanica brand used to sell the Swedish Herbal Institute brand. I don't know why they switched over, but they seem to think that it's just as good or better.
Fingers crossed!
It's nice to hear about success stories like you on this site. It gives me hope. I've lived with trichotillomania and anxiety most of my life, but for much of my life, I did not consider them to be "medical" problems (just personal problems, problems with my attitude, self-discipline, etc). In recent years, I've tried getting help through my doctor, but I move around so much, that it makes having a strong relationship with a doctor difficult. Also, my health insurance isn't so good, so as a result, I don't usually have the best doctors either.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 13, 2010, at 14:49:33

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » mogger, posted by Melanie-00 on December 13, 2010, at 14:32:08

Sounds like a great brand and a quality product. It is great you are being so aggressive with your treatment. You will succeed. All the best,

Joseph :)

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by bleauberry on December 14, 2010, at 17:23:24

In reply to NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

There are a few labs, for example Thorne Research, that realize certain fillers and buffers can actually interfere with absorption and metabolism. Of them, magnesium stearate is guilty. In low dose Naltrexone, calcium citrate is a common filler but needs to be avoided because it slows down absorption...with LDN they need fast absorption for it to work properly.

I'm sure this topic ties in to why we see so much difference between brand and generics. When someone claims a filler is "neutral", I automatically am suspicious. I say prove it. They can't. Only patient reactions like yours tell the truth.

> Hello,
>
> About 5 months ago my psychiatrist recommended that I take NAC 2400mg for OCD/Depression. I was all over it and began taking it. My doctor told me to be patient as studies have shown that NAC can begin to work at 9 weeks and actually is most effective at the 6 month mark. Well he is correct. I have been patient with it and it has paid off. It is incredibly powerful for my constantly over working brain that does not shut off. It has acted like a dampener and I have now been able to take a job and I am able to make travel plans for the first time in my life.
>
> I actually was taking 3600mg and felt that I was feeling a bit too spacey (in a good way) so dropped down to 2400mg and found that I needed a bit more so I went to 3000mg a day. The interesting this is that I switched brands to get a 500mg capsule instead of the 600mg capsule so I could take 3000mg evenly (1000mgX3 daily). I was using Swanson brand, 600mg, which capsules were made of gelatin and magnesium stearate (vegetable). I switched to Jarrow Brand 500mg and after about two weeks I began to struggle a bit with depression and horrific dry mouth. I became suspicious as the only thing I had done different was to swich brands. Clearly this was the problem so I looked at the side of the bottle. Well Jarrow's formula has silicon dioxide, cellulose, gelatin and magnesium stearate in each capsule. I really didn't feel great and was beginning to struggle so I went back to the Swanson brand to see if my suspicions were true and they are. After about 5 days switching back to Swanson I feel complete relief and back to where I was. I had no idea that ingredients in a capsule could have such a profound effect on me. I am wondering if anyone else has had the same negative reaction to either of these ingredients? I found an interesting website discussing that some fillers are not so good for us. Any thoughts and experiences?
>
> Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by mogger on December 14, 2010, at 18:03:49

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by bleauberry on December 14, 2010, at 17:23:24

wow thank you for the information bleauberry. I checked out their site and was bummed to see that they don't sell NAC. I can't find any brand that sells NAC without magnesium stearate.

Sometimes with my conventional medication when my pharmacy switches generics on me it takes a period to get used to the new generic. I had no idea about different fillers. It is so frustrating to think that what seems to be an identical zoloft pill could have completely different coatings/fillers. No wonder I feel off sometimes when I switch generics. Thanks again for the input,

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by need2beatOCD on January 14, 2011, at 20:02:37

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 14, 2010, at 18:03:49

I just started NAC a few weeks back and I'm up to 2,400 mg a day. No real help yet but I know it's too early. Also the GNC brand only has 2 fillers and magnesium stearate isn't one of them but I don't know if the fillers it has are any better. I'm hoping this helps bc Ive been on 60 mg of Prozac for a few years now and it used to help but not much anymore. I'm desperate for some progress.

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :( » need2beatOCD

Posted by mogger on January 14, 2011, at 20:33:17

In reply to Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by need2beatOCD on January 14, 2011, at 20:02:37

need2beatOCD,

I hear you about being desperate for progress, totally. I hate to say it but it did take about 9 weeks for me to really start to feel something and as I say my doctor said full benefits aren't felt until 6 months! :( I am actually at 3600 mg as my pdoc said that is fine to take as I feel it is more powerful. Something to think about. Also, if you want relief in about 2 weeks I highly recommend you take 18 GRAMS not MG's of inositol for ocd. It is a gem. My zoloft, inositol and NAC are what I take for my OCD and I feel like I am at a good place. I used to be basically bedridden with ocd and clinical depression so these three have really helped. Inositol tastes great and it is also great for depression if you are feeling really low. It works well with my zoloft. Please babblemail me if you would like as I have some articles and really cheap places to buy inositol and nac at. Hang in there and again please babblemail me if you want additional information as I am more than happy to help.

Joseph

 

Re: NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(

Posted by Melanie-00 on January 14, 2011, at 20:53:12

In reply to NAC for OCD. Cellulose + Silicon Dioxide! :(, posted by mogger on December 8, 2010, at 15:30:57

Hi Joseph,

I started taking NAC a while back, too, after discovering this post and doing my own research.

I'm at the 2400 mg dose now and plan to stay there for a while. I don't think I see any effect yet, but you said about 9 weeks, so I am still giving it a go.

Just to clarify, did you see an effect after 9 weeks of being on NAC (even at lower doses) or only after taking the full dose for 9 weeks (that is, 9 weeks after completing your build-up period to the full dose)?

Sorry, confusing question ... What I mean is, my understanding is that you built up your dose by 600 mg every 2 weeks, a schedule something like this:

week 1 600 mg
week 2 600 mg
week 3 1200 mg
week 4 1200 mg
week 5 1800 mg
week 6 1800 mg
week 7 2400 mg
week 8 2400 mg
week 9 2400 mg <-- So, is this when you first noticed an effect -- at week 9 after initiating treatment?

Or was it sometime later?

This is more or less the schedule I've been following, although I stayed at 600 mg for only a couple of days, and have increased by 600 mg after about 10-11 days (instead of 14 full days), but I haven't experienced any side effects, so all seems fine.

Thanks again for your advice!
BTW, as far as taking inositol, I would also highly recommend building up to the 18g/day very slowly. Otherwise, you are likely to get bad cramping and stomach problems!


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