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Posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 0:27:29
Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to a federal court) March 6, 2001
go to:
http://www2.uniontrib.com/news/metro/20010306-9999_1m6class.html
This is another healthy insightful attempt to educate and inform an objective audience about the clinically proven dangers of licit toxic psychotropic medication by increasing awareness of a future federal court ruling.Ironically, the need for Freedom of Speech is an issue raised by the APA, CHADD, and a pharmaceutical giant.
The medically qualified pro-psychotropic degenerate-doctors and insane advocates want to maintain the right to verbally threaten, and legally pressure families of precocious children with their inferior and dangerous agenda.
Seems the mad-doctor idiots passionately want their untamed tongue unrestrained and advocate the censoring of www.mentaldisorder.com
by act of grace,
mentaldisorder.com is the internationally recognized on-line authority on mental disorder and we reject the pretensions of qualified medical men to exclusive expertise on the diagnosis, treatment, and disposal of mental disorder.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 12, 2001, at 20:44:01
In reply to Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ......., posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 0:27:29
> degenerate-doctors and insane advocates
> Seems the mad-doctor idiots passionately want their untamed tongue unrestrained and advocate the censoring of www.mentaldisorder.com
Please be civil, otherwise, this degenerate mad doctor idiot will need to censor your untamed tongue. :-)
Bob
PS: Follow-ups, if any, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by Sulpicia on March 12, 2001, at 20:45:22
In reply to Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ......., posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 0:27:29
> Hi --
like all meds, ritalin too has its cost/benefit calculus.
I would like to respectfully point out that the law suit you
cite in your article is the very definition of frivolity and
agenda-driven nonsense. In point of fact, the suit in question
charges the APA, Novartis, and CHILDREN AND ADULTS with ADD/HD with
fraud. Hello?? A class action suit against minors?? Even Stalin
couldn't have pulled that one off.I'm an adult with ADD -- precocious? Perhaps we are speaking of a
different problem? My impairments from ADD are most decidedly not
the result of precocity.Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your meaning here. Could you explain a bit?
Does your group advocate against the use of all psychiatric meds??
What do you propose to substitute in the way of treatment?S.
Posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 23:32:39
In reply to Re: Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ....... » lumtur, posted by Sulpicia on March 12, 2001, at 20:45:22
> Does your group advocate against the use of all psychiatric meds??
precocious minds of infants, children, and adolescents should not be introduced to psychotropic licit or illicit toxic dope.
> What do you propose to substitute in the way of treatment?
for you. i recommend: 1) you buy the $30.00 card game. 2) travel. 3) fencing. 4) gardening .....
mentaldisorder.com is the internationally recognized on-line authority on mental disorder and we reject the pretensions of qualified medical men to exclusive expertise on the diagnosis, treatment, and disposal of mental disorder.
Posted by Sulpicia on March 13, 2001, at 8:53:12
In reply to Re: Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ......., posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 23:32:39
> > Why is OK for adults to get treatment and not children? I'm not a huge fan of
giving the newest drugs to kids [too little long-term data] but what about the meds
we've had around for half a century?I'm afraid I don't understand the "$30 ticket" but as for the activities you mention,
all I can say is, if only! Perhaps you've been spared the misery of a child with a severe
illness, but if a child is so depressed that they cannot get out of bed, how can they
participate in such activities? Getting our children back to a healthy enjoyment of life
is possibly the most important goal of any parent in this situation. Believe me, I'd be
thrilled, but the unfortunate fact of the matter is that some children become extremely
ill. Without treatment, at best they waste their lives; at worst they die. I've not met
many parents who rush to meds at the drop of a hat. In fact, it's quite the opposite.
Most parents try every other means of helping their children. It's a difficult issue to
face and a hard choice. From where I sit, the fact that there *are* effective treatments
for illnesses that in the past led to institutionalization or death, is a good thing.
Fencing would be a great idea but a child with ADD/HD in most cases can't participate.
Many can't pay attention long enough to grasp the fundamentals and most, if not all, will
become too frustrated because they don't readily understand the rules or techniques required.
What's great about treatment [=a combination of academic accomodation, theraputic intervention
and medication *where indicated*] is that it helps them figure out how to learn, how to focus,
and how to understand what's expected of them.Perhaps if I understood the nature of your personal experience with children and psychiatric
illness, I might see your point more clearly? Does your child have ADD/HD? A bad initial
experience with meds can really scare a parent -- is this the case?
S.
S.
Posted by lumtur on March 15, 2001, at 11:17:47
In reply to Re: Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ....... » lumtur, posted by Sulpicia on March 13, 2001, at 8:53:12
Sulpicia,
Your diatribe of false compassion was threatening and your inferior position is extremely dangerous. As a result your are under a SUICIDE WATCH.
Please stop projecting death and stay away from children.
mentaldisorder.com
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 15, 2001, at 18:58:50
In reply to Re: Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ......., posted by lumtur on March 15, 2001, at 11:17:47
> Your diatribe of false compassion was threatening...
OK, I need to censor your untamed tongue now.
Bob
PS: Follow-ups, if any, to this should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. If you want, lumtur, you can email me directly.
Posted by pat123 on March 15, 2001, at 21:28:03
In reply to Re: Ritalin (from a mad-doctor's laboratory to ......., posted by lumtur on March 12, 2001, at 23:32:39
> mentaldisorder.com is the internationally recognized on-line authority on mental disorder and we reject the pretensions of qualified medical men to exclusive expertise on the diagnosis, treatment, and disposal of mental disorder.
I reject this claim as any cogent person would
after reading your web page. Your posts and web page show no compassion or understanding of what it is like to have mental illness. As to your qualifications, keep in mind that your are SELLING A CARD GAME with your web page. You are out to make money so drop the smoke and mirrors, please.Pat
Posted by Dinah on February 25, 2005, at 18:57:32
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Dr. Bob on March 12, 2001, at 20:44:01
Awww, Dr. Bob. Your PBC's used to be a lot more humorous and personal.
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