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Posted by Partlycloudy on September 6, 2008, at 11:35:22
This is the third or fourth time I've tried getting a massage when I'm all wound up. The next day I feel bruised, though I'm not. The massage therapist said (a different person each time; it's obvious why I haven't returned to the same one!) has said that I'm particularly knotted in one place or another, and it's really hurt when they've worked on me. I've told them so - and moaned! - yet they've continued to knead me painfully like some kind of bread dough.
And the next day, yikes! I dosed up on ibuprofen, but really this doesn't feel like I did anything nice for myself at all but instead allowed someone the pleasure of beating me up - and then gave them a bunch of money to do it!
I go back to my acupuncture/chiro guy on Monday for another treatment and I'll talk to him about it then. I'm tired of being in pain :-(
But what am I doing wrong? I *thought* I had asked for "relaxation" type massages - but every time I feel the next day like I've been worked over, and not at all in a good way. Is this the way massage is supposed to feel - and if so, why would anyone want to do this on a regular basis?
I think I'll soak in the tub today with a bunch of Epsom salts for my aching muscles.
Posted by Phillipa on September 6, 2008, at 12:38:23
In reply to Thought I was helping myself but -, posted by Partlycloudy on September 6, 2008, at 11:35:22
Sometimes you feel worse before better. But when I could afford them also had an electrical stimulus on the muscles to help them relax ans this may have been the ticket as was always better for at least a day. Sorry you're in Pain. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on September 6, 2008, at 12:39:38
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but - » Partlycloudy, posted by Phillipa on September 6, 2008, at 12:38:23
Also did anyone x-ray your back first as could be arthritis, bone spurs, discs. I'm sure your chiro did. Love Phillipa
Posted by Nadezda on September 7, 2008, at 15:00:51
In reply to Thought I was helping myself but -, posted by Partlycloudy on September 6, 2008, at 11:35:22
Hi, PC.
I had the exact opposite experience. I was looking for a deep massage because of chronic muscle strain, and would always get these soft, relaxation type massages.
If you have bad knots or extremely tight muscles in spasm, the type of deep massage you've gotten is very helpful. Often the next day, people do feel sore-- but they say this is is the only thing that relieves the spasm. A lot of dancers have that type of massage.
It's pretty ironic though. My only conclusion is that massage therapists do the type of massage they like to do, no matter what you ask for. It can be frustrating-- or uncomfortable.
Are you feeling better?
Nadezda
Posted by Sigismund on September 7, 2008, at 16:28:45
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but -, posted by Nadezda on September 7, 2008, at 15:00:51
Unless my massages really hurt I never felt they were doing any good.
Feeling pleasure is such hard work.
Posted by Partlycloudy on September 7, 2008, at 18:35:23
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but -, posted by Nadezda on September 7, 2008, at 15:00:51
Today I'm still rather sore but haven't felt it necessary to medicate the pain, so I guess I'm a LOT better. I just didn't think that this was something that was supposed to hurt! Maybe I need to do it more often? I don't know if I could learn to love the pain, though if it helps to resolve the back issues eventually, then there's that I suppose.
pc
Posted by Partlycloudy on September 8, 2008, at 11:37:50
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but - » Nadezda, posted by Partlycloudy on September 7, 2008, at 18:35:23
He was REALLY pleased that I had gone for a massage. And REALLY concerned that I had experienced a lot of pain during, and afterwards. We spent the session entirely on that lower part of my back - he said that it was still pretty stirred up. The acupuncture was sheer bliss (I am completely blown away at how removing the pain happens so completely and that feeling of euphoria that I experience - wowza).
He said that I need to keep working on managing my stress, but that I'm making progress. I can see that. I think I might try going back to my yoga practice, which I abandoned when my home life became so very full of anxiety and stress (that's right - I stopped doing yoga exactly when I needed it the most). It's that whole making myself do something good for myself that's so hard - I almost feel like I need to have someone on the other end, pulling me, or someone behind, pushing me, in order to actually DO it. Even though I know I'll feel better for it.
Sheesh.
Posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2008, at 12:44:00
In reply to Thought I was helping myself but -, posted by Partlycloudy on September 6, 2008, at 11:35:22
> This is the third or fourth time I've tried getting a massage when I'm all wound up. The next day I feel bruised, though I'm not. The massage therapist said (a different person each time; it's obvious why I haven't returned to the same one!) has said that I'm particularly knotted in one place or another, and it's really hurt when they've worked on me. I've told them so - and moaned! - yet they've continued to knead me painfully like some kind of bread dough.
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> And the next day, yikes! I dosed up on ibuprofen, but really this doesn't feel like I did anything nice for myself at all but instead allowed someone the pleasure of beating me up - and then gave them a bunch of money to do it!
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> I go back to my acupuncture/chiro guy on Monday for another treatment and I'll talk to him about it then. I'm tired of being in pain :-(
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> But what am I doing wrong? I *thought* I had asked for "relaxation" type massages - but every time I feel the next day like I've been worked over, and not at all in a good way. Is this the way massage is supposed to feel - and if so, why would anyone want to do this on a regular basis?
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> I think I'll soak in the tub today with a bunch of Epsom salts for my aching muscles.If you ask the massage therapist for a "light tissue massage" and tell them that you only want to be relaxed....that is what they should do. Do not pay them if your instructions are ignored. I've had that happen a couple of times where the therapist almost killed me and I understand your pain..physical and mentally..It does feel like we're doing something that is good for us and then it gets screwed up.
It is like having your hair cut and the stylist keeps on after you've said that it is too short~~~My last haircut was a disaster. It grows out but the reward of the new cut is long gone.
Love you, Pat
Posted by lemonaide on September 23, 2008, at 21:46:49
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but - » Partlycloudy, posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2008, at 12:44:00
Owwwwewie! My Chiro has massage therapy as part of his treatment, and they do the deep tissue massage with hurts like nothing else. Most massage therapist will normally ask you (when you go for a relaxation massage) do you like touch, medium or deep. If they don't I would tell them.
Now if you do have knots, it is helpful for them to try to release them, but it hurts, it brings tear to my eyes sometimes, but it helps.
But I am all for the accue, it will do the same things with less pain.
Posted by Phillipa on September 23, 2008, at 23:57:40
In reply to Re: Thought I was helping myself but - » fayeroe, posted by lemonaide on September 23, 2008, at 21:46:49
Seriously I like the hurt as it get the deep knots and direct pressure on the knots releases them. Then my massive therapist always told me to go home and rest. Also always massage away from the heart as it gets rid of toxins trough the lymph glands. Massage is wonderful. Love Phillipa
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