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Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc

Posted by mmcconathy on August 29, 2004, at 23:37:31

I've read in posts many times you just need to love yourself, to get you anywhere.

I've heard of Narcisssm, excessive love of one's self. Well at times, when i feel insecure, ill get this feel of lust over myself, no not like that, just where i start feeling Egotistical, and put up a frount as a hotshot. It works for a while, but its like a inflation, say like a ballon, that blows up and goes back down, basically thats my confidence. I feel worthless when there's no stimulation. My imainary companion is helping me with TRue confidence, but i got to get rid of this, fake conficnce that really ahs bad side effects.

Am i a Narcissist?

I need advice.

Matt

 

Re: Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc » mmcconathy

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 8:56:33

In reply to Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc, posted by mmcconathy on August 29, 2004, at 23:37:31

> I've read in posts many times you just need to love yourself, to get you anywhere.
>
> I've heard of Narcisssm, excessive love of one's self. Well at times, when i feel insecure, ill get this feel of lust over myself, no not like that, just where i start feeling Egotistical, and put up a frount as a hotshot. It works for a while, but its like a inflation, say like a ballon, that blows up and goes back down, basically thats my confidence. I feel worthless when there's no stimulation. My imainary companion is helping me with TRue confidence, but i got to get rid of this, fake conficnce that really ahs bad side effects.
>
> Am i a Narcissist?
>
> I need advice.
>
> Matt

You need some definitions, first. Narcissism is a stable personality charactistic. It's not something that comes out to defend you, under trying circumstances. It's the "normal" way you are. By definition, it interferes with the quality of your life. Here is the textbook definition:

Diagnostic Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

You need five or more of these traits, present all the time (not just when your defenses are active).

Your imaginary companion *is* you. Your self-image doesn't match up to the companion, yet. The more you can behave as you imagine you can behave, the more you will come to resemble your imaginary companion. Along the way, you will learn from experience what aspects of your imaginary companion are worthy of emulation. I suspect there may be a couple traits you'll let go, once you gain some experience.

Lar

 

Re: Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc

Posted by Starlight on August 30, 2004, at 13:23:33

In reply to Re: Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc ? mmcconathy, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 8:56:33

My personal opinion of really loving yourself is recognition that you are the same energy that exists everywhere and can't be denied. So strip away your looks, strip away your accomplishments, strip away your ego, and educational, all those things that you think make you independent or separate you from the masses. When you strip it all away, what are you left with?
Electricity, energy, life. And that energy is everywhere, in everything.

That energy is the same energy that runs the universe, that makes trees grow, oceans dance - all of life in its' entirety. Once you can realize that and start connecting with that energy on a regular basis you can realize how to truly love yourself because, look at how beautiful you are, look at how beautiful, amazing, and wondrous that energy is.

And now you have the opportunity to experience that same energy in others, which to me is the purpose, for us to be able to experience this god energy in the phsyical form. And you get to do what you want to with it, create, explore and love this energy with all your heart with the recognition and observance that you are that energy and the rest of the mind games are fluff.

Then the exitement and love are palpable.
Good luck,
starlight

 

Echo Narcissus

Posted by 64bowtie on September 15, 2004, at 23:41:11

In reply to Loving yourself and Narcissm, where's the diffrenc, posted by mmcconathy on August 29, 2004, at 23:37:31

Not to act snotty, please believe me.... Also, not to dilute or contradict anything by Larry Hoover......

Greek Mythology contains two brothers, Echo and Narcissus. Echo was so taken by himself that if everyone yelled out, he could only hear his own voice. Likewise, Narcissus was so smitten by himself that everyone could be bent over looking in a still pond of water, Narcissus would only see himself.

I'm asking all to consider the image of a narcissistic person engineering all outcomes to benefit only them, and having tantrums if things don't turn out that way. Please add this information to that posted by others, if you can see fit.

Rod


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