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Posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
Was I ever happy, normal? Or was it all an illusion?
What's real, anyways?Recover means to go back to some baseline? What does that mean?
Posted by sleepygirl on June 23, 2006, at 22:26:30
In reply to hmm, posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
I've decided to build a baseline..I'll let you know when I finish it ;-)
Posted by ElaineM on June 23, 2006, at 23:15:56
In reply to hmm, posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
I think "normal" may be an illusion.
But I think "happiness" is only elusive.(And "real" is whatever is relevant)
:) El :)
Posted by All Done on June 24, 2006, at 3:09:51
In reply to hmm, posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
Hi, llrrrpp.
I think Sleepygirl's onto something. :)
My T and I have talked about my ups and downs in relation to my baseline. Is my baseline what I was? Is it what I want it to be? I'm pretty sure my baseline has been low for a very long time. Maybe always. I think, maybe when I decide it has moved up enough, I'll be done with therapy? (Don't tell my T I said that, though. ;) )
Laurie
Posted by Poet on June 24, 2006, at 11:13:18
In reply to hmm, posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
Hi llrrppp,
I don't know what normal is unless normal is intense self hatred. In therapy my T has decided to concentrate on my low self esteem and starting next session we're going to *explore things other than career success that can help me feel good about myself.*
Yeah, that'll be fun. Considering I snapped at work yesterday and said the F word within earshot of a bigshot. Oh, my that didn't go over well.
Anyway, sorry to jump on your thread. My baseline is at zero so recovery is a long way off.
Poet
Posted by llrrrpp on June 24, 2006, at 11:20:27
In reply to Re: hmm » llrrrpp, posted by Poet on June 24, 2006, at 11:13:18
Hi Poet,
If your baseline is at zero, that means that any change is positive - lucky you!sounds like some hard work ahead next week. With your T and at your job.
You should derive some sense of positive self-worth from your psycho-babble contributions however. Occasionally, I think they are kind of "out there" but once I go visit you "out there" I appreciate your cunning wit and insight very much.
Posted by llrrrpp on June 24, 2006, at 11:21:55
In reply to Re: hmm » llrrrpp, posted by sleepygirl on June 23, 2006, at 22:26:30
> I've decided to build a baseline..I'll let you know when I finish it ;-)
Is your baseline purple? I like purple. Can I sprinkle some glitter on it so that I can see it in dim light?
what's the price for shipping and handling?
Posted by llrrrpp on June 24, 2006, at 11:23:47
In reply to Re: hmm, posted by ElaineM on June 23, 2006, at 23:15:56
Do we experience the illusion of "normal" differently for others than we do for ourselves?
How about happiness-
If it's elusive, what's it running away from? what's it scared of?
Posted by llrrrpp on June 24, 2006, at 11:26:56
In reply to Re: hmm » llrrrpp, posted by All Done on June 24, 2006, at 3:09:51
> Hi, llrrrpp.
>
> I think Sleepygirl's onto something. :)I agree- you should place an order too. What color do you want your baseline in?
>
> My T and I have talked about my ups and downs in relation to my baseline. Is my baseline what I was? Is it what I want it to be? I'm pretty sure my baseline has been low for a very long time. Maybe always. I think, maybe when I decide it has moved up enough, I'll be done with therapy? (Don't tell my T I said that, though. ;) )Yeah, my T told me that I can never go back to where I was, either the good places or the bad places. I just have to try to keep finding new places. But I shouldn't go all apesh*t ahistorical either and put a rosier or dingier tinge on the past than what it objectively deserves.
When your present is satisfactory, I see no reason to continue with T, as long as the present is stable. My present is highly unstable. Volatile, in fact.
I would never tell your T. perish the thought!
yours,
-ll
Posted by muffled on June 24, 2006, at 16:56:05
In reply to hmm, posted by llrrrpp on June 23, 2006, at 19:46:03
I just want to be more steady and not hurt myself anymore. I want some peace in my head.
I want to be able to be a good Mom.
Posted by All Done on June 25, 2006, at 1:44:51
In reply to Re: hmm » All Done, posted by llrrrpp on June 24, 2006, at 11:26:56
> > Hi, llrrrpp.
> >
> > I think Sleepygirl's onto something. :)
>
> I agree- you should place an order too. What color do you want your baseline in?I heard orange is the new black.
> > My T and I have talked about my ups and downs in relation to my baseline. Is my baseline what I was? Is it what I want it to be? I'm pretty sure my baseline has been low for a very long time. Maybe always. I think, maybe when I decide it has moved up enough, I'll be done with therapy? (Don't tell my T I said that, though. ;) )
>
> Yeah, my T told me that I can never go back to where I was, either the good places or the bad places. I just have to try to keep finding new places. But I shouldn't go all apesh*t ahistorical either and put a rosier or dingier tinge on the past than what it objectively deserves.Why does your T say you can't go back to the good places?
I have a terrible tendency to "change" the past. My memory is terrible and my lack of self-esteem (hey, Dr. Bob...what about that board? ;) ) contributes too much to my views about what really happened.
> When your present is satisfactory, I see no reason to continue with T, as long as the present is stable. My present is highly unstable. Volatile, in fact.
>
> I would never tell your T. perish the thought!
>
> yours,
> -llThanks for keeping my secret. As far as he knows, he's stuck with me until he retires, which, according to my calculations, is approximately 35 years and two days. ;)
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