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Posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 12:42:58
I've been trying to equalize my work time and the amount of work I have. I have a looong way to go, but I think it's a good step.
Despite that, I had an enormously productive session yesterday - for me. I'm really excited about a piece to the puzzle that dropped into place for me.
On the other hand, my therapist clearly was frustrated at not understanding what I was trying to convey, and kept getting drowsy. So I'm writing a story for him, and trying to draw illustrations, but I don't draw at all well, so now I'm frustrated. And what if he still doesn't understand? Then I'll feel even more frustrated.
I guess new breakthroughs are hard to explain. :(
Once I finish, if I ever finish, maybe I could email it to someone who understand parts and pieces? And see if they understand? Or I'm just jibberishing.
Of course, I really don't have time to do this and maybe it's just another elaborate nonworking ploy rather than an important idea.
And now off to a shower. I am trying to figure out what etiquetorial board to submit my proposal that showers should always include both sexes. My real reason of course is that three or so hours of solo socializing is something that I'd most heartily like to avoid, such as for example by writing a long and probably hard to understand post.
Posted by zenhussy on January 20, 2007, at 12:48:53
In reply to Sorry for not being around., posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 12:42:58
Posted by Tamar on January 20, 2007, at 16:00:26
In reply to Sorry for not being around., posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 12:42:58
> I've been trying to equalize my work time and the amount of work I have. I have a looong way to go, but I think it's a good step.
That sounds like a really valuable thing to do.
> Despite that, I had an enormously productive session yesterday - for me. I'm really excited about a piece to the puzzle that dropped into place for me.
>
> On the other hand, my therapist clearly was frustrated at not understanding what I was trying to convey, and kept getting drowsy. So I'm writing a story for him, and trying to draw illustrations, but I don't draw at all well, so now I'm frustrated. And what if he still doesn't understand? Then I'll feel even more frustrated.I can't draw at all, and my mother is an artist... I find it very frustrating when I have an image in my head and I can't make it happen on paper. But it turns out I'm reasonably good at photography. Would using a camera work for you?
> I guess new breakthroughs are hard to explain. :(
>
> Once I finish, if I ever finish, maybe I could email it to someone who understand parts and pieces? And see if they understand? Or I'm just jibberishing.I don't know whether I can claim to understand parts and pieces but I'd certainly be happy to look at it!
> Of course, I really don't have time to do this and maybe it's just another elaborate nonworking ploy rather than an important idea.
>
> And now off to a shower. I am trying to figure out what etiquetorial board to submit my proposal that showers should always include both sexes. My real reason of course is that three or so hours of solo socializing is something that I'd most heartily like to avoid, such as for example by writing a long and probably hard to understand post.I had to read that last paragrpah three times before I realised you weren't talking about bathing! But yes, showers (of both kinds) could frequently be improved by including both sexes.
Posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 16:14:39
In reply to Re: Sorry for not being around. » Dinah, posted by Tamar on January 20, 2007, at 16:00:26
> I can't draw at all, and my mother is an artist... I find it very frustrating when I have an image in my head and I can't make it happen on paper. But it turns out I'm reasonably good at photography. Would using a camera work for you?
I was actually considering that. Or going to the craft store for sticker books. Some stuff has to be drawn, I think, but other parts could be done otherwise.
> > I guess new breakthroughs are hard to explain. :(
> >
> > Once I finish, if I ever finish, maybe I could email it to someone who understand parts and pieces? And see if they understand? Or I'm just jibberishing.
>
> I don't know whether I can claim to understand parts and pieces but I'd certainly be happy to look at it!That'd be great! Sometimes my therapist has enormous difficulty understanding me, and it always makes me feel like I can't articulate well. But other times I know I do articulate well, and in fact have a knack for it at times. And I figure the reason for our miscommunications must just be differences in the ways we think.
> > Of course, I really don't have time to do this and maybe it's just another elaborate nonworking ploy rather than an important idea.
> >
> > And now off to a shower. I am trying to figure out what etiquetorial board to submit my proposal that showers should always include both sexes. My real reason of course is that three or so hours of solo socializing is something that I'd most heartily like to avoid, such as for example by writing a long and probably hard to understand post.
>
> I had to read that last paragrpah three times before I realised you weren't talking about bathing! But yes, showers (of both kinds) could frequently be improved by including both sexes.rofl. Yes, I just re-read it and can see where it could look like I was talking about bathing showering. Now I can't stop laughing about three hours of solo socializing.
The shower went ok. I was neither over nor under dressed. I've tried to work out techniques for when I have to go somewhere where I may only know the hostess. Following my inclination and seating myself in a quiet place makes me a social burden and the hostess feels compelled to do something. I can't bring myself to join groups. But if I sit near enough to a group of people who are talking animatedly, and put on an interested expression, it can appear from a distance that I am on the fringes of that group and am enjoying myself, while directing my gaze neutrally enough that the group doesn't consider that I'm trying to become part of it.
Can you tell I have a touch of social anxiety?
My usual choice of finding someone who looks even more uncomfortable than I feel and striking up a conversation doesn't work at places like showers where there tend to be clumps of people who know each other.
But really in this day and age, shouldn't men be just as interested in what kitchen appliances they receive as the woman is?
Posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 16:17:40
In reply to remember....be kind to dm...we like her (nm) » Dinah, posted by zenhussy on January 20, 2007, at 12:48:53
Thanks, Zen. I'm actually feeling a lot more optimistic. I heard news at work that leads me to believe that my time there will perforce, and not by my own doing, be limited to another four or five years.
And my husband is completely sympathetic to the fact that I probably would not do well at a big company with lots of rules and regulations and dress codes and the like. So he won't make me go out job hunting.
Four or five years is a workable time frame, although sadly it coincides with the remainder of the time when my son could get much use out of my presence.
Posted by TherapyGirl on January 20, 2007, at 17:30:00
In reply to Sorry for not being around., posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 12:42:58
I know this is going to be off topic, but I just had to say that I COMPLETELY misread this paragraph until I got to the part about 3 hours. LOL
***And now off to a shower. I am trying to figure out what etiquetorial board to submit my proposal that showers should always include both sexes. My real reason of course is that three or so hours of solo socializing is something that I'd most heartily like to avoid, such as for example by writing a long and probably hard to understand post.***
Posted by Honore on January 20, 2007, at 22:36:00
In reply to Sorry for not being around., posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 12:42:58
I'm not sure I could help, but I also would be happy to read whatever you write.
Honore
Posted by Dinah on January 21, 2007, at 8:26:22
In reply to Re: Sorry for not being around. » Dinah, posted by Honore on January 20, 2007, at 22:36:00
I woke up this morning feeling like yesterday was a dream, and that I wasn't me at all. I think the anxiety of social discourse made me a bit weirdish and hyper.
So while i *might* bring him what I already wrote, I doubt I'll spend any more time on it because even I can't see why it was so important.
Posted by Honore on January 21, 2007, at 10:44:07
In reply to I decided I was full of it., posted by Dinah on January 21, 2007, at 8:26:22
Awwwwww. Maybe you could still bring it to him?
Maybe it's something important and you're disconnected from it now-- and don't remember what it meant, or even don't want to remember.
Even if you were hyper and not yourself-- maybe it's something that's worth looking into. Cause sometimes you say things are too uneventful and easy in T. But maybe you keep more eventful things away?
Honore
Posted by Poet on January 21, 2007, at 11:02:56
In reply to I decided I was full of it., posted by Dinah on January 21, 2007, at 8:26:22
Hi Dinah,
I've shredded many things I've written that I wanted to show my T because after a few days it either made no sense or I questioned why it was so important that she needed to read it. Maybe T is right that just getting it out of my head and putting it on paper helps, so even if what you wrote doesn't seem important now, it was something, yesterday, that you needed to do.
Poet
Posted by Dinah on January 21, 2007, at 11:07:30
In reply to Re: I decided I was full of it., posted by Honore on January 21, 2007, at 10:44:07
> Awwwwww. Maybe you could still bring it to him?
I will, if only to try again to explain what was so confusing him.
> Maybe it's something important and you're disconnected from it now-- and don't remember what it meant, or even don't want to remember.
I *do* do that. It doesn't feel like that at the moment, but it is something I do. If it is that way this time, maybe he'll say something to spark it.
> Even if you were hyper and not yourself-- maybe it's something that's worth looking into. Cause sometimes you say things are too uneventful and easy in T. But maybe you keep more eventful things away?
>
> HonoreIt's funny you say that, because for the first time Friday in a very very long time, it felt like we were really doing therapy again. Not just reporting things, or reacting to things, but exploring things like we were doing right before the sh*t hit the fan. It would be nice to think that wasn't an illusion.
Posted by Dinah on January 21, 2007, at 11:10:25
In reply to Re: I decided I was full of it. » Dinah, posted by Poet on January 21, 2007, at 11:02:56
Yes, I did need to do it.
I don't know. Maybe I should shred a few more things.
Days feel so disconnected sometimes. And I feel so disconnected sometimes.
Posted by bil on January 21, 2007, at 21:17:05
In reply to Re: Sorry for not being around. » Tamar, posted by Dinah on January 20, 2007, at 16:14:39
Dinah-
sometimes if I need a visual image to show what i'm thinking or feeling, I go to Google images and just keep looking until I find a picture that 'feels' like what I want to say, (I am doing a collage project at the moment relating to my dream images). You can cut and paste and layer dozens, if need be.Just a thought, if you are struggling to portray something visually.
bil
Posted by Dinah on January 22, 2007, at 14:14:46
In reply to Re: Sorry for not being around., posted by bil on January 21, 2007, at 21:17:05
That sounds like a great idea!
I gave him my story today, and he thought I should continue to work on it. So maybe I will.
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